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If he could have seen what gender/race he was before he approached him you might have a point...as it stands you don't
According to some that heard the 911 call, he did know his race.
If he could have seen what gender/race he was before he approached him you might have a point...as it stands you don't
No what has been reported is he said "these a**holes always get away"...if you believe that a**holes is a new slang term for black then I can't help you at allAccording to some that heard the 911 call, he did know his race
He called before he approached...you're trying to change reality again to fit your bias and preconceived notions
Zimmerman isn't white.
"They" is an ambiguous term, and he said "those a**holes" actually, only those with an agenda would assume it meant black...someone walking down the street slowly, in the rain, with a hood concealing their face is suspicious and worth taking a closer look at...he saw a suspicious PERSON not a race...with other crimes having recently being committed there with no arrests the "a**holes" would be those that have always gotten away, why does it HAVE to be a racial thing?Assuming he was a responsible black captain and he knew everyone in the development how could he make a call to police claiming suspicious behavior/person without seeing them first?
If what you say is true how is unidentified person just walking down the street suspicious? Wearing a hoodie in the rain??
It's been reported on the 911 tapes he said "they always get away". That indicates he at least identified the race/gender of Treyvon.
people with access to the tapes told him Zimmerman made a comment about Martin’s race during the call and said he had no intention of letting the youth get away because, “they always get away.”
So all black and hispanics are out to get each other now? Racist much?I hate to be the bearer of information, again, but hispanics and blacks perpetrate more violence against members of each race then they do against other races.
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/20...-in-la-county/
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/17/us...gewanted=print
So, this only lends stronger credence towards Zimmerman being a paranoid loser.
One more time, no mention of any race...only a bias and agenda would assign race to an ambiguous term such as "they" or from what was really said which was "those a**holes"From one of the earlier links.
people with access to the tapes told him Zimmerman made a comment about Martin’s race during the call and said he had no intention of letting the youth get away because, “they always get away.”
Huh? I immediately called into question the parts of the article that don't match my position?
I have zero faith in the media to come up with any objective information in this case, they are simply fanning the flames for mob justice.
it's not an unreasonable conclusion that you might have had some issue with the Miami Herald article.Given the past troubles of the SPD in the area as touched upon by this article
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1345868.html
and the details of the Miami Herald article I personally won't have faith in the investigation into this incident unless another level of authority looks at it
No what has been reported is he said "these a**holes always get away"...if you believe that a**holes is a new slang term for black then I can't help you at all
Some may want to assume since he said that he HAD to be referring to blacks, since you know NOBODY calls anyone an a**hole that isn't black![]()
No, the leaker indicated that race was brought up in his call to the non-emergency line before the incident.
According to the Sun Sentinel newspaper, Lee has invited the U.S. Department of Justice and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to review his department's investigation.
When ever I call police to report something the first thing they ask is "what race and size"
When ever I call police to report something the first thing they ask is "what race and size"
Looks like the Sanford Police feel they have nothing to hide.
With the attention this story is getting, they'd have to say that. It would be political suicide to do otherwise.
"They" is an ambiguous term, and he said "those a**holes" actually, only those with an agenda would assume it meant black...someone walking down the street slowly, in the rain, with a hood concealing their face is suspicious and worth taking a closer look at...he saw a suspicious PERSON not a race...with other crimes having recently being committed there with no arrests the "a**holes" would be those that have always gotten away, why does it HAVE to be a racial thing?
No, the leaker indicated that race was brought up in his call to the non-emergency line before the incident.
What are you going to say when these two Law enforcement agencies find nothing wrong with the Sanford PD findings?
What are you going to say when these two Law enforcement agencies find nothing wrong with the Sanford PD findings?
Tell that black militia group to start "questioning" Zimmermans family on the street every day.
Maybe have to apply some "self defense".
So you stroll CASUALLY while it's raining? Or do you move your ass a little faster to get the hell out of the rain?Someone walking down the street slowly in the rain with a hood on?
BECAUSE IT WAS RAINING!!!!!!
If that's you definition of suspicious behavior sounds like someone looking for any justification for a confrontation.
It was stated a dozen or so pages ago...this was about 40 minutes after sunsetSo anyone living in FL know what the daylight conditions in Florida likely were at the time of the shooting?
The article says that the shooting occurred around sunset and where I live there is definitely a period of good ambient light for about 20 minutes after sunset.
Mr. Zimmerman could have gotten a glimpse of Trayvon Martin's hands even if he was wearing a hoodie and made the determination of race that way.
I'm pretty sure I've read every article so far and the wording was he knew the race BECAUSE he said "they always get away", not that he knew it AND said that...and get it right, he said "those a**holes always get away"Do you have a problem with reading?
So you stroll CASUALLY while it's raining? Or do you move your ass a little faster to get the hell out of the rain?
Exactly, but saying there's no way it could be considered suspicious at all is plain silly...How hard was it raining that night? When I have to walk in the rain I don't really move faster unless it's a fairly medium rain or higher because then you're also likely to splash water on your legs if you hit a puddle.
Like many have said there's just a lot of unknowns.
