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HumblePie

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And amazingly they think this investigation was not botched.

Again initial investigation. Again, initial response by Chris Serino. No word has been heard from him sense. He did the remaining bit of investigation, presumably not alone, and was not able to turn up more evidence that could charge/convict Zimmerman.

Just because Zimmerman wasn't arrested on the spot doesn't mean that an ongoing investigation wasn't occurring. It certainly was.

Now if this affidavit by Chris Serino had been filed a little bit later, instead of right after the initial investigation was done, I might be more inclined to believe it was something other than office politics. But to put that in pretty much as it was handed over to him the same say?
 

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"it's office politics. "

Or he didnt feel the guy was qualified to be interrogating a suspect in a shooting? based on the questions he didnt ask.

So ready to dismiss it as office politics what it sounds like is he didnt think the the Narcotics officer asked the right questions.

This is further backed up by Witness accounts they were coerced.

It looks like yoru projecting your own bias on here just like the rest of the posters.

Yet Zimmerman has interviewed three (3) times without representation surely the homicide detective got his shot at questioning him.
 

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How so?

Chris Serino was suppose to head up the investigation of this. Instead the initial investigation was done by a narcotics investigator and the file got sent to him. He reads the investigation and says he thinks the guy should be charged and is then told that there isn't enough evidence to do so. It's pretty much basic CYA tactics. No fallout is going to occur if there isn't enough evidence, and if there is later found to be evidence to charge then convict GZ he looks the hero. Again, office politics as I've seen it many times.

But hey, this is again my opinion and we don't even have the full story about this either. Just the tidbits about it. But to me this smells of office drama more than anything else.

Okay you can choose to believe or not. I have three aquaintances that work for the New Jersey state police. One is a detective, one a sargeant, and one a patrolman. Over the years I have had discussions with all 3 as it surrounds all kinds of things, car chases and shootings, all kinds of stuff. I can asure you if a lead investigator put up that guy should be charged with crime, he ain't doing it for office politics. And I would assume all police departments would function in a similar manner. You might get some nonsense maybe in some bs type crime, but not in a potential murder investigation.

I don't know these people, but I will give them benefit of the doubt.
 

nobodyknows

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To use similar logic as some other forum posters HAD they found drugs or Alcohol in Martins system dont you think they wouldhave shared that by now.

Good find!

Apparently they've been too busy trademarking their dead son's name.
 

lotus503

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I just read this

"The governor said on Thursday night that a state task force would review Florida's Stand Your Ground law and recommend changes "so that we might help avoid such tragedies in the future."

So it looks like stand your ground is getting reviewed after all.
 

nobodyknows

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Yet Zimmerman has interviewed three (3) times without representation surely the homicide detective got his shot at questioning him.

Don't confuse them with the facts. The prosecuter didn't feel he had a case based on the evidence, so naturally it must be a botched investigation.
 

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The whole story looks like bullshit anyway.

See here:

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...to-arrest-zimmerman-for-shooting-unarmed-teen



So the reporter confused internal tracking data and spun it to say the guy wanted to arrest Zimmerman.

Fern

You're confusing two different things here. This has to do with what an officer on the scene put in a police report. It has nothing to do with Chris Serino who wasn't brought into the case until they had Z in custody. According to the news reports, he filed an affidavit on 2/26 stating that he did not believe Z's story.
 
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Okay you can choose to believe or not. I have three aquaintances that work for the New Jersey state police. One is a detective, one a sargeant, and one a patrolman. Over the years I have had discussions with all 3 as it surrounds all kinds of things, car chases and shootings, all kinds of stuff. I can asure you if a lead investigator put up that guy should be charged with crime, he ain't doing it for office politics. And I would assume all police departments would function in a similar manner. You might get some nonsense maybe in some bs type crime, but not in a potential murder investigation.

I don't know these people, but I will give them benefit of the doubt.



Your posts are so interesting to me.


So because you had a couple conversations about car chases, shootings, you want to use that as basis for your opinion on this case of self defense? Wow... I mean your other posts were out there, but this one takes the cake for me.


As has been posted, that story is BS.
 

HumblePie

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I just read this

"The governor said on Thursday night that a state task force would review Florida's Stand Your Ground law and recommend changes "so that we might help avoid such tragedies in the future."

So it looks like stand your ground is getting reviewed after all.

Playing politics to pander to popular opinion doesn't mean anything will change. It doesn't hurt anyone in that position to state they are going "review" something. If they do and it leads to better refinement of the law then great. I just wouldn't hold my breath hoping for an entire repeal of it. I sincerely doubt that is going to happen.
 
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Might be some clarifying, but if a guy is innocent why would anyone even in internal tracking data think a guy should be charged?



Oh I see, well by that logic we have a bunch of internet posters who insist this guy is guilty I mean he must be, right? Why would they think this if he wasn't guilty? See you can't prove otherwise, therefore it's fact. :colbert:



/sarcasmsarcasmsarcasm
 

lotus503

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I just read this

"The governor said on Thursday night that a state task force would review Florida's Stand Your Ground law and recommend changes "so that we might help avoid such tragedies in the future."

So it looks like stand your ground is getting reviewed after all.

So does that mean the blacks won't riot if Zimmerman is not charged??
 

lotus503

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Playing politics to pander to popular opinion doesn't mean anything will change. It doesn't hurt anyone in that position to state they are going "review" something. If they do and it leads to better refinement of the law then great. I just wouldn't hold my breadth hoping for an entire repeal of it. I sincerely doubt that is going to happen.

I dont think that needs to happen, I think it should be amended not to allow armed private citizens to follow and pursue people with no evidence of a crime commited.
 

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You're confusing two different things here. This has to do with what an officer on the scene put in a police report. It has nothing to do with Chris Serino who wasn't brought into the case until they had Z in custody. According to the news reports, he filed an affidavit on 2/26 stating that he did not believe Z's story.

You are right that had nothing to do with the lead guy, that was about an officer on the scene. Sounds like someone on scene thought Zimmerman maybe should have been charged right there.
 
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I dont think that needs to happen, I think it should be amended not to allow armed private citizens to follow and pursue people with no evidence of a crime commited.



Do you have any idea how overreaching that law would have to be?


Again, let's not make this "9/11" all over again.
 

nobodyknows

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You're confusing two different things here. This has to do with what an officer on the scene put in a police report. It has nothing to do with Chris Serino who wasn't brought into the case until they had Z in custody. According to the news reports, he filed an affidavit on 2/26 stating that he did not believe Z's story.

Not believing the story and having the facts/evidence to prosecute are two different things. That's why they have prosecuters.

In any event, they have a special task force on it so no worries.
 

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"mob" "popular opinion" "standing up for the constitution"

Just admit it. You don't like black people and this is how you dehumanize them and trivialize their very real concerns about injustice in this country.
 

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So does that mean the blacks won't riot if Zimmerman is not charged??

Well if they do riot, maybe you can go in and straighten them out. Grab a couple of the other guys from here to go with you. I'll go with you as well, I got your back :sneaky:
 

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Might be some clarifying, but if a guy is innocent why would anyone even in internal tracking data think a guy should be charged?

Look at the police reports. If you need a link LMK.

They did arrest Zimmerman, they cuffed him, they detained him, they took him into custody. They interrogated him. They have his gun in evidence still.

I should think it rather obvious that a PD has procedures to track what they are doing, who spent what time on what, who was brought in there and why, on suspicion of what etc.

The info is, in part, tracked with codes indicating what type of possible offense was being investigated.

It's a management thing, a liability thing etc. If some guy shows up at the ER and claims the police beat the crap of him what are they going to say in the absence of such records? "Uh, we don't know. We don't keep records."

Fern