Well conveniently the only other person in this incident turned up dead. So Zimmerman can make up whatever and people just nod and go "Good, one less black person."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/...y-are-still-disrespecting-my-son-after-death/
you guys are disgraceful.
If they feel the information that has come out about him is inaccurate why don't they release current photos and school records that disprove it? The fact that they have not done so makes it all the more believable.
Ensuring that the law and Constitution is followed should never be considered disgraceful.
If they feel the information that has come out about him is inaccurate why don't they release current photos and school records that disprove it? The fact that they have not done so makes it all the more believable.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/...y-are-still-disrespecting-my-son-after-death/
you guys are disgraceful.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/...y-are-still-disrespecting-my-son-after-death/
you guys are disgraceful.
all of the new "revelations" are utterly meaningless to the case in front.
So he wrote something on school property and experimented with weed. So what? There is nothing violent in his record.
I had the same impression as Wolfe, that in the girlfriend's version Zimmerman approached Martin and (she thought) shoved him. (Could also have been Martin clicking the phone off knowing there's an impending fight.) That's a conflict, although admittedly I've only seen people talking about her testimony; I have not seen a transcript.
Also, I thought there was a woman widely derided as an attention whore who claimed that Zimmerman just shot Martin - a Coulter or Culker or something?
If they feel the information that has come out about him is inaccurate why don't they release current photos and school records that disprove it? The fact that they have not done so makes it all the more believable.
That is so clearly scripted from their lawyers it almost makes my head hurt.
Who are "they" that the parents are so upset about?
all of the new "revelations" are utterly meaningless to the case in front.
So he wrote something on school property and experimented with weed. So what? There is nothing violent in his record.
She said she thought she heard the sound of "pushing" immediately before the phone went dead.
She seemed to think that someone pushed TM knocking off his headphone/earbuds (whatever) thus terminating the call.
I don't think that any sound she heard can be definitively identified as "pushing". Pushing may certainly fit the bill, but there are actions that could also. I.e., it's just her interpretation as she didn't actually see anything. Nor IMO even if it was a push could know who did the pushing merely from a sound.
Her name is Crutcher.
I gave up on her long ago. In one of her earlier statements to the media she said her blinds were down, she heard crying and only went outside after the gunshot.
Since then has developed a great deal of certitude about things she obviously can't know. E.g., who was crying out. She claims to be absolutely certain it was TM even though she didn't see him until he was killed. She, like the rest have never even heard TM's voice.
The TV has played Z's call a number of times. His voice is quite high and he sounds young to me. I have also heard the 911 tapes and heard the cries for help. To me, it sounds like it could be Z so I can't rule him out as the one crying out. But I haven't heard TM's voice so can't rule him in or out.
Fern
you and those like you.
If it is so meaningless why have they gone out of their way to present Martin as a 12 year old rather than a full grown 17 year old with a history of drug use and vandalism.
If the reference to him hitting a bus driver is accurate he could have a history of violence. Since he was a minor we will probably never see any criminal record if he had one.
Ah ok I see, "they" are the people trying to get to the truth of the matter, set emotion aside, and get to the FACTS of what is going on rather than just blindly listening to the news like a puppet and then screaming while running in circles with fingers in ears. Makes sense I guess.
The parents are trying to get the current pictures removed. They do not feel his past 'record' is relevant to the case as it's 'already' been proven Zimmerman has a past FULL of violence.
If it is so meaningless why have they gone out of their way to present Martin as a 12 year old rather than a full grown 17 year old with a history of drug use and vandalism.
If the reference to him hitting a bus driver is accurate he could have a history of violence. Since he was a minor we will probably never see any criminal record if he had one.
She has her flaws.
But what is important is that she didn't hear "punching"
That is consistent with them struggling over the gun.
LOL wut?
Zimmerman has a past full of violence? How so? Making 911 calls in a neighborhood recently hit by large amounts of crime in an attempt to clean said neighborhood up as full of violence?
I know his parents feel as if the latest released info about their son is somehow character assassination, but it isn't. His history and past reactions to various scenarios are relevant in determining his possible actions given a situation where there is a lack of evidence concerning what may have occurred during key moments of the incident.
So you're saying factual reporting of things his son did is "disrespecting" him and "disgraceful"? Shouldn't it have been his son doing those things that's disrespectful and disgraceful?http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/2...n-after-death/
you guys are disgraceful
