Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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Pens1566

Lifer
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After this fantasy grabbing by Zimmerman he would still be legally justified in shooting Martin. You lose.

No, actually he wouldn't. Since that would technically be assault, he'd be unable to use the provisions that gets quoted here so often.
 

highland145

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Huh? :confused:

George Zimmerman initiated EVERYTHING! From the stalking to the confrontation to the fight!!
Damn, son. I think you've moved up to crank.


Hey, Jack, doing well?
 
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Darkman

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She lied but she never lied about anything having to do with the facts of the case. She lied because she didn't want to be a part the situation so she lied to Trayvons mother in the very beginning when Trayvon's mother wanted to know what happened. She lied about her age and name and that's it. But in court since she was under oath she had to be honest about EVERYTHING! And she was even if it made he look bad.
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Darkman

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She had no reason to lie. She didn't even want to be there. She told the truth about everything asked even if it didn't make her or Trayvon look favorably.

Jurors were almost all white. Of course there was disconnect. That's just the way it is.
Ya right ... "Believe you me"? :whiste:

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highland145

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No, actually he wouldn't. Since that would technically be assault, he'd be unable to use the provisions that gets quoted here so often.
If GZ initiated the attack and started losing...syg says he can shoot. But the defense did NOT use syg.

Did you miss a few pages of this thread?
 

Vic Vega

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There's no evidence to show that what I wrote is not how it happened. I heard the defense say many times to a witness that they could use common sense. Using that common sense "get off get off" means someone grabbed Trayvon. Since Zimmerman was the only one there common sense says it was Zimmerman.




How was Trayvon committing a forcible felony when he was defending himself from a creepy stranger that put his hands on him. That's called self defense.



(2) George initially provokes the use of force against himself

for a) It was testified by the medical examiner that they were NOT life threatening injuries. All George needed was a couple of band aids.

for b)John Goode said that they were "tussling". So George obviously wasn't just laying there surrendering. George was trying to get the best of Trayvon too.

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