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Reasonable Doubt

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What did you think of the OJ Simpson verdict?


Apples and oranges.

But that detective Mark Furhman blew the case by repeatedly using the n-word and then lying about it under oath. One of the Goldman's even said such. That made it seem like shenanigans was going on especially because O.J. was in an interracial relationship. Didn't Furhman also hop O.J.'s fence and find the glove?

Couldn't trust the evidence in that situation.


Plus it was testified that blood that they drew from O.J. was missing.

O.J. may have did it I don't know but I saw a documentary on Youtube that led me to believe his son may have done it.
 

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Again:

What Racheal Jeantel testified to was:

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


That was her testimony during the trial under oath.


That "get off get off" obviously mean there was some kind of contact initiated by George Zimmerman. Use common sense!

She is the only person beside Zimmerman who heard how it started. And I don't trust George Zimmerman because a man fighting for his freedom will say anything to remain free.

Of course that isn't what she said initially--also under oath.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Being unfairly harassed by adults is hardly unique to young African-American males.

I was just about as harmless as any kid that ever lived, and I still occasionally had adults assume I was up to no good. I didn't attack them though. I stood there and let them bitch me out for no reason, because I was raised to give a certain amount of reverence to adults (even if they didn't deserve it).

It had nothing to do with my race. It was my age that they didn't like.

I find it hard to believe anyone went through their youth without having the same experience from time to time.


You ever been stalked at night by a creepy stranger then had him put his hands on you?
 
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I wish it was but based on how much of the country has gone stupid over this I cannot say it is.
He brings the stupid to entirely new levels though. He completely makes up his own fantasy concerning Zimmerman and patently ignores the known facts available about Martin. Either he's a complete idiot or he is willfully acting ignorant, which would still make him a complete idiot.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Do you have evidence that Zimmerman kept following after that? Do you have a legal argument that even if Zimmerman continued to follow him that this was a crime?

Trayvon was running home. Zimmerman got out of his truck and followed Trayvon. THAT IS A INDISPUTABLE FACT!!! May not be a crime but Zimmerman you see what happened after. Something we all agree could have been avoided if Zimmerman had stayed in his truck and waited for the police.


Assuming that this fantasy happened. Zimmerman would still be justified in shooting Martin as he was on top of him pummeling George. Grabbing somebody doesn't give the other person the right to pound somebodies head into the concrete and punch them in the face over and over.

It's called self defense. Just because Trayvon got the best of George in the end we don't know how the beginning or middle went. The kid was fighting for his life against a full grown man that outweighed him by alot.
 

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It's called picking a fight and getting your ass whipped.

George put his hands on Trayvon and subsequently got his ass whipped. Then pussy ass George pulled a gun in a fist fight that George started by putting his hands on and grabbing Trayvon.

Any proof these claims are true??? My bet is your pulling them out of your ass.

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He should have said that before he got out of his car to hunt down and murder Trayvon Martin.
One is allowed to get out of his car ... ANYTIME ... even if young black man is walking on the same road, in the same area.
One is allowed to walk the same road even if it leads right to the moon .... :)

To brutally assault another person, however, is an illegal felony offense ... which young Mr. Martin commited that night. It already had been proven in court .. when jurors found Mr. Zimmerman "not guilty" on all charges / acted in self-defense.
Therefore Zimmerman DID NOT hunt down Martin.
Therefore Zimmerman DID NOT murder Martin. He DID kill him though, in SELF DEFENSE.

What he so afraid of now. He has a gun. Doesn't that make him feel tough.
Possibly he is afraid of "third world countries"-like wanna be savages and thugs.

So what ... That's besides the point ... Doesn't mean he'll take that gun and go shooting every 3-rd world country-wanna be savage, does it now?

Not too fun when others have guns too to defend themselves.
Defend themselves ... LOL .. ya, whatever .. don't make me laugh ...
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Of course that isn't what she said initially--also under oath.


She said it before the trial though.

She didn't even want to be part of the situation but she was forced to be a part of it. But when under oath with the world watching she told the truth about everything.

If you saw the trial you saw the defense attorney try to trip her up repeatedly. But it didn't work because the truth remains the same.
 

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She said it before the trial though.

She didn't even want to be part of the situation but she was forced to be a part of it. But when under oath with the world watching she told the truth about everything.

If you saw the trial you saw the defense attorney try to trip her up repeatedly. But it didn't work because the truth remains the same.

I watched it and it did work. He even got her to admit she lied 2-3 times, and I don't mean implied. He literally started his question with "So you lied about" to which she responded yes.
 

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One is allowed to get out of his car ... ANYTIME ... even if young black man is walking on the same road, in the same area.
One is allowed to walk the same road even if it leads right to the moon .... :)

I never said he wasn't allowed to get out his car. Apparently he is also allowed to follow a minor. The minor felt Zimmerman was creepy and ran away, Zimmerman followed. Put his hands on Trayvon and got his ass whipped by the 17 year old. Like I said I doubt Zimmerman even fought back because he knew he had a gun on him. Following someone isn't a crime but putting your hands on a person is a crime. And I'm certain that's what Zimmerman did when Trayvon yelled "get off get off!"



Possibly he is afraid of "third world countries"-like wanna be savages and thugs.


Why? He was bad enough to stalk a kid running from him. Why isn't he bad enough to stalk a person with the means to defend themselves and "Stand their ground"?
 

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lol .. a person .. --- MILLIONS of persons rather ......

angry mob who can take him apart limb by limb ... savages ...... thugs ....
 

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I never said he wasn't allowed to get out his car. Apparently he is also allowed to follow a minor. The minor felt Zimmerman was creepy and ran away, Zimmerman followed. Put his hands on Trayvon and got his ass whipped by the 17 year old. Like I said I doubt Zimmerman even fought back because he knew he had a gun on him. Following someone isn't a crime but putting your hands on a person is a crime. And I'm certain that's what Zimmerman did when Trayvon yelled "get off get off!"

Why? He was bad enough to stalk a kid running from him. Why isn't he bad enough to stalk a person with the means to defend themselves and "Stand their ground"?

Please provide proof of the bolded or admit you're lying.
 

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I watched it and it did work. He even got her to admit she lied 2-3 times, and I don't mean implied. He literally started his question with "So you lied about" to which she responded yes.


She lied but she never lied about anything having to do with the facts of the case. She lied because she didn't want to be a part the situation so she lied to Trayvons mother in the very beginning when Trayvon's mother wanted to know what happened. She lied about her age and name and that's it. But in court since she was under oath she had to be honest about EVERYTHING! And she was even if it made he look bad.
 

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A blogger, leesuzan posted this a couple of hours ago on Gretawire:

Hello. I am Antonio West, Don’t recognize me? That’s OK; I understand.

My name was Antonio West. I was the 13-month old child who was shot in the face at point blank range by two black teens, who were attempting to rob my mother, who was also shot.

I think my murder and my mommy’s wounding made the news for maybe a day, and then disappeared.

A Grand Jury of my mommy’s peers from Brunswick, Georgia ruled the black teens who murdered me will not face the death penalty… too bad it was me who got the death sentence from my killers instead, because Mommy didn’t have the money they demanded.

See, my family made the mistake of being white in a 73% non-white neighborhood, but my murder wasn’t ruled a ‘hate crime’.

Oh, and President Obama didn’t take a single moment to acknowledge my murder. He couldn’t have any children who could possibly look like me – so why should he care?

I’m one of the youngest murder victims in our great Nation’s history, but the media didn’t care to cover the story of my being killed in cold blood.

There isn’t a white equivalent of Al Sharpton, because if there was he would be branded a ‘racist’.

So no one’s rushing to Brunswick, Georgia to demonstrate and demand ‘justice’ for me. There’s no ‘White Panther’ party, either, to put a bounty on the lives of the two black teens who murdered me.

I have no voice, I have no representation, and unlike those who shot me in the face while I sat innocently in my stroller – I no longer have my life.

Isn’t this a great country?

So while you’re out seeking ‘justice for Trayvon’, please remember to seek ‘justice’ for me. Tell your friends about me, tell you families, get tee-shirts with my face on them, and make the world pay attention, just like you did for Trayvon.

I won’t hold my breath.

I don’t have to anymore.
 

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She lied but she never lied about anything having to do with the facts of the case. She lied because she didn't want to be a part the situation so she lied to Trayvons mother in the very beginning when Trayvon's mother wanted to know what happened. She lied about her age and name and that's it. But in court since she was under oath she had to be honest about EVERYTHING! And she was even if it made he look bad.

If you are willing to lie about irrelevant things what's to say you're not lying about things that matter?

Based on what Juror B37 stated, they didn't find Rachel to be honest.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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lol .. a person .. --- MILLIONS of persons rather ......

angry mob who can take him apart limb by limb ... savages ...... thugs ....


Yeah millions of people hate his ass. Because he is a coward.

I don't see an angry mob after him if so he'd be dead already. Those savages thugs would just run up in his house and kill him. No one is doing that.

They don't like him and are letting it be known!


Would someone kill him given the right opportunity? Maybe.

But he should have thought about that before he began to profile and stalk innocent Black males which ended with him killing an innocent Black kid.
 

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Please provide proof of the bolded or admit you're lying.


Again:

What Racheal Jeantel testified to was:

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


That was her testimony during the trial under oath.


That "get off get off" obviously mean there was some kind of contact initiated by George Zimmerman. Use common sense!

She is the only person beside Zimmerman who heard how it started. And I don't trust George Zimmerman because a man fighting for his freedom will say anything to remain free.