Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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WHAMPOM

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I hear you, and I understand your point...

however, this flies directly in the face of the narrative of "mighta been a rapist" and Trayvon being terrified.

If you're someone who is supposedly used to being profiled, and we were told by no less than the President today that every black man knows all too well how this profiling thing works... and you're in a gated community, you're a guest there... a guest OF A GUEST in fact, and you see a guy in a nice truck... he's "white", he's got a phone up to his head, and you believe him to be acting like a police officer, or acting like he's some kind of security guard...

Well, let's just say that even if you also believe he has no legitimate right to act in that capacity, you can't know for SURE that he doesn't (could be a plainclothes officer or official security, or neighborhood watch) and it would behoove you to act accordingly.

As in, query the individual verbally to get to the bottom of it. Or, if you aren't comfortable taking that risk... go home.

It also seems reasonable to say that if that is your perception of the person, you probably don't fear that they're going to KILL you, but rather you feel that they are going to be a HASSLE for you, no?

Whatever you do, don't viciously and continually attack them and ignore their terrified screams for help and mercy.

That's a really good way to get shot dead.

A police officer , security guard ar any citizen on honest business does not roll up their window when some one approaches their vehicle. A LEO, SG or honest citizen would identify themselves as a non threat. Sorry your vacation ended so soon, it made the world a better place.
 

Ichinisan

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A police officer , security guard ar any citizen on honest business does not roll up their window when some one approaches their vehicle. A LEO, SG or honest citizen would identify themselves as a non threat. Sorry your vacation ended so soon, it made the world a better place.

Ha ha ha!

You think George Zimmerman's impulse to roll-up the window didn't have a VERY GOOD DAMN REASON BASED ON TRAYVON MARTIN'S BEHAVIOR?!

Just look what a horrible person Trayvon Martin was!

You can't have it both ways. Look at what Trayvon did to George!
 

Svnla

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AFTERBURNER w/ BILL WHITTLE: The Lynching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls

Another example of actual journalism putting together the facts of the story. Anyone still crying over little Trayvon should watch this.

Nice link. Thank you for posting it.

Ok, TM's supporters, do tell us what do you think about the clip and your evidences and facts to debunk the author, beside the usual line of "butttt...buuuuttt ..he is sooooo rrrrraaaaacccciiiiisssssstttt".


**cricket*****
 

Darkman

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A police officer , security guard ar any citizen on honest business does not roll up their window when some one approaches their vehicle. A LEO, SG or honest citizen would identify themselves as a non threat. Sorry your vacation ended so soon, it made the world a better place.

Are you high, or stupid?

Cops roll their windows up all the time. Ever hear of a stakeout? I don't think they work if everyone knows you're a cop.

I think this side of the "no way of knowing" debate is good. Throughout the trial, Trayvon's past was dismissed as irrelevant because Zimmerman "couldn't have known about it." Well, guess what? He brought up a valid point. Trayvon couldn't have known GZ wasn't a plainclothes detective or undercover.
 

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Quite an interesting article about blacks in Peru .. saw it posted at Reality Chatter:

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Re: George Zimmerman -- Trial for the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin --June 10, 2013
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by auman58 Today at 6:11 am

Lima, Peru: Where the pallbearers are black

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In this July 2, 2013 photo, black pallbearers put on their white gloves as they prepare to handle a coffin during a burial in Lima, Peru. These pallbearers are in the job precisely because of the color of their skin, a phenomenon unique to this South American capital that was a regional seat of Spain’s colonial empire for more than three centuries and where racism remains so deeply ingrained that many Peruvians don’t consider the practice discriminatory. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

Read more:​

http://news.yahoo.com/lima-where-pallbearers-black-075929226.html (includes good Photo Gallery on the subject)​

Source:

http://realitychatter.forumotions.n...hooting-of-trayvon-martin-june-10-2013#222874

(they are starting to bicker there, at Reality Chatter, somewhat again .. lol ... even Gizmo (a regular from CrimeWatchers) spoken her mind there now about so called "Racist" (or NOT) :)
 
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Reasonable Doubt

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Yet, no injuries on Martin consistent with being hit whatsoever. Please explain that.


It's called picking a fight and getting your ass whipped.

George put his hands on Trayvon and subsequently got his ass whipped. Then pussy ass George pulled a gun in a fist fight that George started by putting his hands on and grabbing Trayvon.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Lol...I have less than 7k posts moron, there goes those critical thinking skills of yours again:rolleyes:


You said you said many times "here" where you live. I was assuming "here" meant in this thread. There are over 69,000 posts in this thread moron.

Plus I wouldn't even go through 7,000 posts to find what city you live in when you could be a man and just say it.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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I am going to brunch in the city with a lady friend and then we are going to grab some 40s and go watch the riots - hopefully not being assaulted for being a cracker.


Bullshit you'll most likely stay home and if you do go you won't let your opinions be heard.

If you do let your negative opinions be heard record it, post it, and I'll never step foot in this thread again.

Keyboard racists are a joke!
 

buckshot24

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It's called picking a fight and getting your ass whipped.

George put his hands on Trayvon and subsequently got his ass whipped. Then pussy ass George pulled a gun in a fist fight that George started by putting his hands on and grabbing Trayvon.
Unfortunately for you there isn't any evidence to prove this. Jeantel wasn't a reliable witness as far as the jury was concerned. Well, I guess she knows what wet grass sounds like so there is that.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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With time ... for sure Zimmerman will be better off in Peru or elsewhere ...

If I was him, I'd go "F*ck this chit" .......


He should have said that before he got out of his car to hunt down and murder Trayvon Martin.

What he so afraid of now. He has a gun. Doesn't that make him feel tough.

Not too fun when others have guns too to defend themselves.
 

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It's called picking a fight and getting your ass whipped.

George put his hands on Trayvon and subsequently got his ass whipped. Then pussy ass George pulled a gun in a fist fight that George started by putting his hands on and grabbing Trayvon.

No proof this happened.

Your name is absolutely one of the most ironic in Anand history, it has to be.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Ha ha ha!

You think George Zimmerman's impulse to roll-up the window didn't have a VERY GOOD DAMN REASON BASED ON TRAYVON MARTIN'S BEHAVIOR?!

Just look what a horrible person Trayvon Martin was!

You can't have it both ways. Look at what Trayvon did to George!

What did Trayvon do to George besides defend himself from a "creepy ass cracka" that was stalking him then apparently put his hands on him.
 

buckshot24

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He should have said that before he got out of his car to hunt down and murder Trayvon Martin.
Provide a scintilla of evidence that supports this assertion. It might be true but if it is it will be so without leaving a shred of evidence.
What he so afraid of now. He has a gun. Doesn't that make him feel tough.
Would you stick with your bullshit narrative. Didn't you JUST say he got out of the truck TO hunt down Martin?
Not too fun when others have guns too to defend themselves.
The only evidence we have of ANY crime is the assault Martin committed. Get over it.
 

buckshot24

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Bullshit you'll most likely stay home and if you do go you won't let your opinions be heard.

If you do let your negative opinions be heard record it, post it, and I'll never step foot in this thread again.

Keyboard racists are a joke!
Please, for the good of our sanity, make this video!
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Unfortunately for you there isn't any evidence to prove this. Jeantel wasn't a reliable witness as far as the jury was concerned. Well, I guess she knows what wet grass sounds like so there is that.


Jeantel wasn't a reliable witness? She was an ear witness!! The only witness besides George to hear the lead up to the murder of Trayvon! She heard everything leading up to the point where Trayvon screamed "get off get off". Then a "bump", then rolling in grass.

The jurors were almost all white women so of course there was disconnect. Different life experiences for sheltered white chicks. They probably secretly feared or hated black people like many of you defending George probably do.


As far as the wet grass another white lady witness said she also heard wet grass.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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No proof this happened.

Your name is absolutely one of the most ironic in Anand history, it has to be.


Again:

What Racheal Jeantel testified to was:

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


That was her testimony during the trial under oath.


That "get off get off" obviously mean there was some kind of contact initiated by George Zimmerman. Use common sense!

She is the only person beside Zimmerman who heard how it started. And I don't trust George Zimmerman because a man fighting for his freedom will say anything to remain free.
 

buckshot24

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Jeantel wasn't a reliable witness? She was an ear witness!! The only witness besides George to hear the lead up to the murder of Trayvon! She heard everything leading up to the point where Trayvon screamed "get off get off". Then a "bump", then rolling in grass.

The jurors were almost all white women so of course there was disconnect. Different life experiences for sheltered white chicks. They probably secretly feared or hated black people like many of you defending George probably do.


As far as the wet grass another white lady witness said she also heard wet grass.
What did you think of the OJ Simpson verdict?
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Provide a scintilla of evidence that supports this assertion. It might be true but if it is it will be so without leaving a shred of evidence.

Would you stick with your bullshit narrative. Didn't you JUST say he got out of the truck TO hunt down Martin?

The only evidence we have of ANY crime is the assault Martin committed. Get over it.


You are not too bright huh.

You heard the 911 tapes. It went something like: Operator asked if Zimmerman was following Trayvon. Zimmerman said yes. Operator said "We don't need you to do that".

Also Trayvons self defense after being touched by Zimmerman could be misconstrued as an assault because Zimmerman got his ass whipped by a 17 year old fighting for his life from a strange "creepy" guy.
 

Balt

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Being unfairly harassed by adults is hardly unique to young African-American males.

I was just about as harmless as any kid that ever lived, and I still occasionally had adults assume I was up to no good. I didn't attack them though. I stood there and let them bitch me out for no reason, because I was raised to give a certain amount of reverence to adults (even if they didn't deserve it).

It had nothing to do with my race. It was my age that they didn't like.

I find it hard to believe anyone went through their youth without having the same experience from time to time.
 
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buckshot24

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You are not too bright huh.
Maybe not but I don't have my head up my ass like you do.
You heard the 911 tapes. It went something like: Operator asked if Zimmerman was following Trayvon. Zimmerman said yes. Operator said "We don't need you to do that".
Do you have evidence that Zimmerman kept following after that? Do you have a legal argument that even if Zimmerman continued to follow him that this was a crime?
Also Trayvons self defense after being touched by Zimmerman could be misconstrued as an assault because Zimmerman got his ass whipped by a 17 year old fighting for his life from a strange "creepy" guy.
Assuming that this fantasy happened. Zimmerman would still be justified in shooting Martin as he was on top of him pummeling George. Grabbing somebody doesn't give the other person the right to pound somebodies head into the concrete and punch them in the face over and over.