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Reasonable Doubt

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Seems like he defended himself just fine; not a scratch on him prior to being shot. It's unfortunate he took advantage of his superior fighting skills to try and inflict serious bodily harm on someone and without knowing who truly started the altercation, we'll never know who actually provoked the fight.


Superior fighting skills? During the trial it was testified George Zimmerman trained in MMA 3 times a week.

Trayvon was fighting for his life after being touched by a "creepy ass cracka".
 
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Reasonable Doubt

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She's also now said:

1.) Trayvon swung first.
She never said that! Blatant lie!

She's also now said:


2.) "Cracka" means someone acting like "they a police, or a security guard" which means she thinks Trayvon knew what capacity GZ was acting in and why he was keeping an eye on him. Which backs up my long-held belief that TM attacked GZ not because he misunderstood GZ's intentions, but because he fully understood them. He didn't like authority or consequence or getting busted for anything.

Busted for anything?

Trayvon did nothing wrong to be busted for. He actually paid for the skittles and ice tea.:rolleyes:

Then headed home to watch the allstar game.
 

werepossum

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What Racheal Jeantel testified to was:

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


That was her testimony during the trial under oath.


That "get off get off" obviously mean there was some kind of contact initiated by George Zimmerman.

She is the only person beside Zimmerman who heard how it started. And I don't trust George Zimmerman because a man fighting for his freedom will say anything to remain free.
You may not trust Zimmerman, but remember that his story is backed up with physical evidence and eyewitness testimony. Racheal Jeantel added the "get off, get off" at the trial - it was not in her earlier deposition testimony. She also admitted committing perjury multiple times, so pointing out that she was under oath does not help you as that obviously means nothing to her. And as Geo points out, she has since said that she believes Martin swung first. Her testimony and statements are so inconsistent and her credibility so low that I see no point to even guess which story (if any) might be true.

She's also now said:

1.) Trayvon swung first.

2.) "Cracka" means someone acting like "they a police, or a security guard" which means she thinks Trayvon knew what capacity GZ was acting in and why he was keeping an eye on him. Which backs up my long-held belief that TM attacked GZ not because he misunderstood GZ's intentions, but because he fully understood them. He didn't like authority or consequence or getting busted for anything.

3.) She doesn't think GZ got his gun out, which makes it even harder to understand in her narrative why it would be TM screaming (hint: it wasn't)


One really interesting thing is that the whole "went to the hospital for blood pressure" lie seems to have been lifted from the actual experience of another female friend of TM.

Rachel is not to be taken seriously.

Watch this to see what I'm talking about
I'm not sure it's significant considering her reliability, but I believe that by the second item she meant not that Zimmerman was in authority, but rather was acting as though he was when in fact he was not.
 

Geosurface

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She never said that! Blatant lie!

Uh oh, time for you to look foolish. Go watch the video I linked. Here's the link again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhgLtjjvHtQ

if you don't like that link how about this one? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/rachel-jeantel-huffpost-live-interview_n_3610921.html

Busted for anything?

Trayvon did nothing wrong to be busted for. He actually paid for the skittles and ice tea.:rolleyes:

He seems to have gotten some slightly older guys to buy him blunts at 7-11, which he most likely then hollowed out and filled with weed... he probably stashed those on Brandi Green's porch, accounting for the missing 4 minutes and for Brandi saying "he was sittin' out on the porch" the next morning.
 
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Darkman

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LOL ...

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Trayvon's Murder

Julian Vanderlinden

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Trayvon's Murder

by Julian Vanderlinden
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jedODZ_jhNA
 

Geosurface

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I'm not sure it's significant considering her reliability, but I believe that by the second item she meant not that Zimmerman was in authority, but rather was acting as though he was when in fact he was not.

I hear you, and I understand your point...

however, this flies directly in the face of the narrative of "mighta been a rapist" and Trayvon being terrified.

If you're someone who is supposedly used to being profiled, and we were told by no less than the President today that every black man knows all too well how this profiling thing works... and you're in a gated community, you're a guest there... a guest OF A GUEST in fact, and you see a guy in a nice truck... he's "white", he's got a phone up to his head, and you believe him to be acting like a police officer, or acting like he's some kind of security guard...

Well, let's just say that even if you also believe he has no legitimate right to act in that capacity, you can't know for SURE that he doesn't (could be a plainclothes officer or official security, or neighborhood watch) and it would behoove you to act accordingly.

As in, query the individual verbally to get to the bottom of it. Or, if you aren't comfortable taking that risk... go home.

It also seems reasonable to say that if that is your perception of the person, you probably don't fear that they're going to KILL you, but rather you feel that they are going to be a HASSLE for you, no?

Whatever you do, don't viciously and continually attack them and ignore their terrified screams for help and mercy.

That's a really good way to get shot dead.
 
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Darkman

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LOL .. Who is this character ...... :)

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George Zimmerman: OBAMA AND B37 MAKE ME SICK AND TO THE NATION TOO !

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George Zimmerman: OBAMA AND B37 MAKE ME SICK AND TO THE NATION TOO !

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George Zimmerman: MARK O'MARA AND JUDGE DEBRA S.NELSON THEY ARE BUDDY

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George Zimmerman: MARK O'MARA AND JUDGE DEBRA S.NELSON THEY ARE BUDDY

Published on Jul 16, 2013
MARK TOLD ON CNN NEWS THAT HE KNOW JUDGE FOR LONG LONG TIME THAT WHY MARK PLAN TO CHANGE THE JUDGE TWO TIME JUST TO GET THIS JUDGE.
NO WONDER THE JUDGE BLOCK THE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT MARK IN THIS CASE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95uSJhInICE
 
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Darkman

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Re: George Zimmerman -- Trial for the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin --June 10, 2013
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by Alessandra_Deux Yesterday at 10:39 pm


Trayvon Martin's brother interning in office of Florida congresswoman

By Frank Thorp and Matthew DeLuca, NBC News

The brother of Trayvon Martin, whose shooting death by George Zimmerman gained international attention over the past year, is currently serving as an intern for Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., her office confirmed to NBC News.

A Florida jury found Zimmerman not guilty of of 2nd degree murder and manslaughter on July 13. Zimmerman says he shot the teen in self defense.

Martin’s brother Jahvaris Fulton attends Florida International University in Miami, Fla., according to his Twitter page.

Read more:

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/19/19563695-trayvon-martins-brother-interning-in-office-of-florida-congresswoman?lite

Source: http://realitychatter.forumotions.n...fatal-shooting-of-trayvon-martin-june-10-2013
 

Darkman

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Behind Their Wire – Exposing The Obama Coordinated Astroturf Campaign Ongoing In Florida – Tallahassee Governors Office / Dream Defenders

Posted on July 19, 2013 by sundance

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...tallahassee-governors-office-dream-defenders/
Day #3 and #4 Behind The Wire – Exposing The Obama Coordinated Astroturf Campaign Ongoing In Florida – Tallahassee Governors Office / Dream Defenders

Posted on July 19, 2013 by sundance

Today, our insider report delivers an alarming first hand perspective of events ongoing in the Tallahassee Florida Capitol. Sheeple is an oft used word when people describe the manipulations exhibited the current Executive Branch and POTUS administration. The Marxist occupy crowds come readily to mind. The current astroturf around the George Zimmerman case is, well, astounding. And now, today, President Obama delivers his own ideologically driven race-based fuel to stoke the fires.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...tallahassee-governors-office-dream-defenders/
 

Riparian

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Superior fighting skills? During the trial it was testified George Zimmerman trained in MMA 3 times a week.

Trayvon was fighting for his life after being touched by a "creepy ass cracka".

Yet, no injuries on Martin consistent with being hit whatsoever. Please explain that.