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Reasonable Doubt

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Huh? According to his bigoted girlfriend he was in-front of his fathers house when their call ended. She also believes that he threw the first punch.

So yes, there is evidence that Martin went out of his way to assault Zimmerman.


Sad when you have to lie to try to prove a point.
 

Riparian

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Exactly. We don't know exactly what went down, but I can certainly understand that it was a stressful situation for Martin. We have no evidence that he was doing anything wrong, so the ideas that Zimmerman was Neighborhood Watch or that his own behavior looked suspicious probably never crossed his mind. Given that no one else reported Martin as a suspicious character, it's doubtful that Martin would have ever thought that Zimmerman might be a good guy thinking Martin might be a bad guy.


She certainly intimated that Martin attacked Zimmerman thinking he was a gay rapist, but she's said so many different and contradictory things I put no stock in anything she says. (And really, isn't "gay rapist" about the rarest thing in the world outside of a black Klansman?)

Strange, I thought Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracka," which is a non-racial term for someone acting as if they're a police officer or security guard. So, Martin either apparently thought Zimmerman was acting like a security guard or cop and attacked anyways or he meant it in a racially derogatory manner.
 

EagleKeeper

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You are wrong. Everything he said is absolutely true. If you disagree, you did not follow the facts of this case or you are in denial.

The latter.

It is their choice to ignore the facts and to troll away.
He knows the fact, just like Tom and others;

They choose to twist/ignore facts because it will not suit their agenda.

RJ says that TM was by his Dad's house.
People who want to use logic will feel that it is at the back of the house and/or the same building.
When coupled with statements made by Brandi that they knew that TM had been on the back porch; the answer is clear.

But if one wants to belive that TM was chatting away in the rain 100 meters from the house and that is called "by" let them.
 
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Winter Park woman getting Zimmerman death threats

She said the calls and death threats to her cell began just minutes after a jury acquitted Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

"We're going to kill you, we're going to get you. Watch your back," said someone on a call.

Her number is one number off from the number Zimmerman used to make his call to police just before he fatally shot Martin.

The call and that phone number were played over and over during the trial.

Tankel showed Eyewitness News a log of nearly 100 threatening calls she's gotten since.

Tankel said she called the Seminole County Sheriff's Office to report the threats but didn't get much traction.

"They said they were averaging 400 death threats per minute on social media sites, so what I was getting was just a drop in the bucket," Tankel said.
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Please backup your claim that my post is a lie or get the fuck out of here.



Instead of me backing up my claim that you are a liar. Back up your claim that you are telling the truth. You can't!

Rachael Jeantel never said either of those statements.

What she testified to was:

Trayvon Martin: "What are you following me for?"

George Zimmerman: "What are you doing around here?"

Trayvon Martin: "Get off! Get off!"


That was her testimony during the trial under oath.
 

werepossum

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Strange, I thought Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracka," which is a non-racial term for someone acting as if they're a police officer or security guard. So, Martin either apparently thought Zimmerman was acting like a security guard or cop and attacked anyways or he meant it in a racially derogatory manner.
She said on CNN that she suggested Zimmerman might be a gay rapist and that's why he didn't want to go home, because he would be leading a gay rapist to his baby brother. But this is in direct contradiction to other things she said about him being "by his daddy house" and thinking "it was just a fight." She called no one, so obviously Martin wasn't worried enough to make her worried. However, this is a girl with severely limited intelligence who has demonstrated over and over that she will happily lie, even under oath, for whatever effect she feels she needs at the moment. I suggest that trying to find truth in Honey Dee Dee's statements is like trying to analyze the smile of a dog.

EDIT: She also testified that Martin called Zimmerman a "awesome dude". Within the above caveats of her veracity, it certainly seems that Martin had no racial animus toward Zimmerman, which would tend to support her later contention that "cracka" was not racial.

Honestly, being followed and approached (perhaps accidentally) by Zimmerman should in itself be enough to make Martin agitated, afraid, hostile and pissed off. I don't think there is much point in our trying to figure out WHY Martin assaulted Zimmerman, especially given that we can't even be sure it wasn't in response to Zimmerman grabbing him or taking a swing at him.
 
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werepossum

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Unimaginable that the racists on this site believe George Zimmermans story as if they witnessed it. Unbelievable.
Why is it unimaginable and unbelievable that anti-conviction people believe a story with corroborating physical evidence when pro-conviction people believe in an opposite story with no evidence?
 
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cubby1223

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Why is it unimaginable and unbelievable that pro-Zimmerman people believe a story with corroborating physical evidence when anti-Zimmerman people believe in an opposite story with no evidence?

Don't call anyone a "pro-Zimmerman person", it just fits into their prejudices that this is all about protecting a white man at all costs.
 

corwin

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Why is it unimaginable and unbelievable that pro-Zimmerman people believe a story with corroborating physical evidence when anti-Zimmerman people believe in an opposite story with no evidence?

Small minds are incapable of rational thought, pretty sure that's what we have here...
 

Reasonable Doubt

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Why is it unimaginable and unbelievable that pro-Zimmerman people believe a story with corroborating physical evidence when anti-Zimmerman people believe in an opposite story with no evidence?


What's the corroborating physical evidence that Trayvon threw the first punch?
 

Bateluer

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Why is it unimaginable and unbelievable that pro-Zimmerman people believe a story with corroborating physical evidence when anti-Zimmerman people believe in an opposite story with no evidence?

Quiet you. This is ATP&N, you're not allowed to make any kind of sense.