Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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Capt Caveman

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This is truly outside the scope of this thread, but it is my personal opinion that once you're and adult and caught stealing jewelry, have gang tattoos up on your neck, are violently attacking people, and selling drugs that you will be of no positive benefit for society.

Again, link to any of this?
 
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I do personally feel he was reckless in pursuit, but I dont know if given the evidecne or Florida law he can be charged with it.

I want a full investigation and thanks to the public outcry we will get it.

I dont think the shooting was racially motivated and think Zimmerman may have had a right to defend himself if his account is accurate and lines up with the evidence.

You on the other hand are disgusting in my opinion celebrating the death of a "hoodrat"

I think Zimmerman has more compassion for Martin and his family than you do.




Celebrating? Definitely not.



Mourning? Yeah not that either, at least not yet. If evidence comes out to support trayvon's innocence then yes, I will mourn him.



Look, I grew up in a real 'hood'. I spent most of my childhood around the gang/thug culture and community, and after seeing firsthand how these thugs affect the people around them I do not have ANY compassion when a thug hoodrat who is ACTING like a thug hoodrat is removed from the equation.


Personally, I blame the thug for putting someone in that situation. Zimmerman will never live this down, it will follow him for the rest of his life. IF he is proven innocent then this event being on his conscious is a bigger travesty than losing one more thug hoodrat.
 

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Those of us on Anandtech who believe George Zimmerman is guilty of wrongfully shooting an unarmed kid and that he should be held accountable are not alone. 73% of the participants of this poll think that George should be arrested.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/justice/florida-teen-shooting-poll/index.html

Wonder what the percentage of people who thought the Duke lacrosse team was guilty before the truth came out was...

Nevermind the fact that the media has brainwashed most of America in their attempts gain market share by sensationalizing this as a race case and pathetic attempts to generate sympathy by showing 5 year old pictures of Trayvon before he thugged out...
 

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A New Black Panther Party leader who announced a $10,000 reward for the capture of the neighborhood watchman who shot and killed Florida teen Trayvon Martin was arrested Monday outside Atlanta for possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, DeKalb County Sheriff’s office said.
Hashim Nzinga, 49, was in possession of an FN Herstal 5.7x28 handgun that he allegedly sold to the Stone Mountain Pawn Shop on March 5 in DeKalb County, Sgt. Adrion Bell, the public information officer, told FoxNews.com.
Last month, Nzinga was convicted for felony deposit account fraud in nearby Gwinnett County, Bell said. It is illegal for a convicted felon to carry a firearm in the state and police were alerted to Nzinga’s alleged possession after the store’s transaction, Bell said.
He was arrested without incident at the probation office he was reporting to, Bell said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/2...ssession-firearm-after-issuing/#ixzz1qL4a6UQp

The man posting a bounty was arrested.
 
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Thankfully the U.S. doesn't charge people based on public opinion. I would have voted that Zimmerman was in the wrong when this thread started but now that more information has come out it seems like the shooting was justified.



Unfortunately, we kind of do. The government is under enormous pressure with this case.. and you know what's really sad? All of this outrage, if proven unjustified, will be a HUGE detriment to the next version of trayvon who truly is innocent and needs public support.
 

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Unfortunately, we kind of do. The government is under enormous pressure with this case.. and you know what's really sad? All of this outrage, if proven unjustified, will be a HUGE detriment to the next version of trayvon who truly is innocent and needs public support.

True but at least the DA and Police seem to have respected Zimmerman's rights thus far and we can only hope once more people know all the facts the lynch mod will die down some.
 

momeNt

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While we're stretching, how about this one..


Zimmerman stays in his car, and a hoodrat thug (what trayvon at least APPEARED to be) kicks down someone's door and takes them hostage.



Zimmerman stays in his car, hoodrat thug gets away, the next night comes back and breaks into someone's house




...or what actually hapapened, which gives us one less hoodrat thug off the streets. At this point we KNOW trayvon was a small time drug dealer, we KNOW he was involved in robberies, we KNOW he had gang tattoos, and based on these facts I'm fine with getting to pay for one less person through our penal system.

Okay so one person feels Zimmerman should have confronted him, gotten Martin to throw a punch he could have never thrown if ZImmerman had stayed in his car, and ultimately kill Martin.

This actually is a great way to clean up the streets. Perhaps even plain clothes police officers can follow suspicious people, get them to throw a punch, and shoot them. Our prisons would literally be empty.
 

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Wonder what the percentage of people who thought the Duke lacrosse team was guilty before the truth came out was...

Nevermind the fact that the media has brainwashed most of America in their attempts gain market share by sensationalizing this as a race case and pathetic attempts to generate sympathy by showing 5 year old pictures of Trayvon before he thugged out...

Hardly analogous.

Better analogy: Trevor Dooley's shooting of David James.
 
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Okay so one person feels Zimmerman should have confronted him, gotten Martin to throw a punch he could have never thrown if ZImmerman had stayed in his car, and ultimately kill Martin.

This actually is a great way to clean up the streets. Perhaps even plain clothes police officers can follow suspicious people, get them to throw a punch, and shoot them. Our prisons would literally be empty.


The reality is that the way the law is written this exact thing is technically possible. That being said, most people know that if you throw the first punch then YOU are the aggressor... No matter what the person "said" to "get them to throw a punch"



Didn't your mother teach you.. Sticks and stones can break your bones but words will never hurt you... That's at least one lesson I guess trayvon was not taught.
 

Pens1566

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The Duke team was convicted by the media before the facts came out, just like this case.

It was Nancy Grace, not "the media". And the situations are entirely different. There was no technicality separating legal/illegal.

And for the record, I always thought it was a bogus charge. Accuser was inconsistent from the beginning.
 

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Damn, if I had known that Zimmerman was a registered Democrat i'd have said he was guilty the whole time. They ought to jail Democrat bastards.
 

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Ok fair enough this evidence you speak of is the shooters own testimony Got it!

But of course you know more then the police who were on the scene and have talked to eye witnesses whose testimony corroborated Zimmermans.
 
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His own 911 call doesn't corroborate his own testimony but I do concede that a minute went by after he hung up with 911 that there is no accounting for before the conflict and shooting occurred. The call ends with him telling dispatch not to have them meet him at his parked truck by the clubhouse mailboxes... but to call his cell phone and he'd tell the officers his location. Someone walking back to their truck the dispatcher told them to meet up with cops at doesn't end the call like that imo.

An important detail that might have been overlooked is that when Trayvon took off running George was asked which direction he was headed and George said towards the rear exit. So it is possible that George felt he had a good idea of where he might be headed.

So George takes off after Trayvon to see if he can reacquire a visual on him and the police dispatch tells him that he doesn't need to do that. George stops and tells dispatch he ran away.

What is the more reasonable next step here? It is possible that he knows where he is headed. Does he continue on foot hoping to catch up with someone who just outran him? Or does he go back to his vehicle to drive to where he thinks Trayvon is headed in order to patrol the area and see if he can spot him again? He may be thinking that if he does, he can let the police that are minutes away (and will call him when they get there) know where Trayvon is.
 

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But of course you know more then the police who were on the scene and have talked to eye witnesses who terstimony corroborated Zimmermans.

That is a common thing around here. People here say they know more than locals know about the area where the locals live. People here also say they know more about how other races think and feel than people of those other races.

It really is amazing. We have some truely gifted people here.
 

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Another question I have, one I'm sure has been answered but I haven't bothered to look through all the posts yet is that was TM part of this neighborhood? I mean did he live there at all? Did he even have any grounds for being in that gate community in the first place?

No, he was visiting his father who lived there, so he appeard to Zimmerman as a stranger.
 

momeNt

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An important detail that might have been overlooked is that when Trayvon took off running George was asked which direction he was headed and George said towards the rear exit. So it is possible that George felt he had a good idea of where he might be headed.

So George takes off after Trayvon to see if he can reacquire a visual on him and the police dispatch tells him that he doesn't need to do that. George stops and tells dispatch he ran away.

What is the more reasonable next step here? It is possible that he knows where he is headed. Does he continue on foot hoping to catch up with someone who just outran him? Or does he go back to his vehicle to drive to where he thinks Trayvon is headed in order to patrol the area and see if he can spot him again? He may be thinking that if he does, he can let the police that are minutes away (and will call him when they get there) know where Trayvon is.

So in your own example explaining why it's plausible that Zimmerman was indeed headed back to his vehicle, you make implications as to why his own testimony is false from a different aspect. If Martin already exhibits a "flight" reaction to the encounter, corroborated by Zimmerman's testimony that he lost him and was returning to his vehicle, how does Martin change his mind from fleeing, and start a fight? Why?

Something is just off. Martin disappearing and reappearing, fleeing then attacking. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
 

nobodyknows

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That is a common thing around here. People here say they know more than locals know about the area where the locals live. People here also say they know more about how other races think and feel than people of those other races.

It really is amazing. We have some truely gifted people here.

Don't they have a recording of someone yelling for help? Couldn't they do a voiceprint and see if it was Zimmerman yelling for help and settle this whole mess?