Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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momeNt

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Registered? Seriously? Almost none are "registered"..there's no f*cking point to "registering" anything...I've been on 3 and NONE of them were "registered" with jack sh*t

Damn you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, yet again...no comparison at all

How many were "captained" by an aspiring police officer?
 

corwin

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Not at all. I just don't pre-judge people based on what they look like and stereotypes. Forgot how many racists were in here. My bad
I call bullshit...EVERYONE judges people by how they see them, even if just a little...that's not (necessarily) racist...if someone of any color dresses and acts like a thug he's gonna be perceived as one, that's the CHOICE they make by projecting that image visually to people around them
 

alkemyst

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Not at all. I just don't pre-judge people based on what they look like and stereotypes. Forgot how many racists were in here. My bad.

Gold grill and gang tats at 17 is hardly stereotyping...however; there is nothing wrong with stereotypes as long as they are not based solely on race, religion, etc.

Being a hoodrat makes one fair game for others to be concerned about.
 

Pens1566

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Gold grill and gang tats at 17 is hardly stereotyping...however; there is nothing wrong with stereotypes as long as they are not based solely on race, religion, etc.

Being a hoodrat makes one fair game for others to be concerned about.

Neither of which could be seen by Zimmerman. And the only "gang tat" I've seen is one of his mother's(?) name. Great gang name.
 

Pens1566

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I call bullshit...EVERYONE judges people by how they see them, even if just a little...that's not (necessarily) racist...if someone of any color dresses and acts like a thug he's gonna be perceived as one, that's the CHOICE they make by projecting that image visually to people around them

Maybe EVERYONE like you and some others in this thread.
 
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Registered? Seriously? Almost none are "registered"..there's no f*cking point to "registering" anything...I've been on 3 and NONE of them were "registered" with jack sh*t

Damn you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, yet again...no comparison at all



The same people keep reposting the same misinformation hoping to get things riled up again. We need some sort of all-inclusive 'update post' that includes the latest info

Most neighborhood watches aren't registered with a national group, as most of the national groups are scammed. Zimmerman was voted as the head of their neighborhood watch, which was registered with the local PD.
 

airdata

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That young man was a young punk. It's clear now more and more is coming out. The parents have admitted he was suspended for them finding a baggie with marijuana residue in his bag on school grounds. They are denying he had any previous issues with any school despite going on record early on saying he had behavioral problems.
It's amazing how our average posting can be so influenced by the media.

Airing the victim's dirty laundry has no effect on what actually happened. Zimmerman stalked the victim and ultimately killed him. The only self defense that occurred would have been if Martin in fact attacked Zimmerman since he was following him... He probably thought he was going to try to rob or kill him. Zimmerman lost any valid claim to self defense the moment he stepped out of his vehicle.

It's clear that although Zimmerman pursued it was Martin that attacked him and began bashing his brains out. It's clear that it was Zimmerman's screams. This is all verified by witnesses.

Yes, it's clear that Zimmerman should have stayed in his car but instead chose to instigate an altercation that ultimately led to the death of a child.

The really funny part is if Martin's real pictures were released on day one, he'd have lost 90% of his support. Many people still believe these are not his pictures though and simply 'Zimmerman' supporters creating fabrications.

People seeing his pictures and changing their minds must be racist. I'm guessing you also fall into this category just like the police who handled the case.

They see a young black male and just assume the worst. Had they properly checked on Zimmerman, maybe they would have investigated the situation more closely from the start.


I know, I know... shouldn't feed the trolls.
 

cybrsage

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So? He claimed that riots are not ok and I asked a specific question regarding that claim. Are you also claiming that it would not be ok for Jews in the ghetto to riot?

It would not have been ok, as it would have given the Nazi government a perfectly good excuse to go in with their heavy machine guns blazing. Rioting would have been a stupid thing to do.

Once in the death camps, an uprising would have been fine, since death was the only outcome anyway, but not in the ghettos.
 
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It is a sad, pathetic day in America where it is frowned upon for a man to investigate a suspicious person in his own neighborhood - Particularly when he is neighborhood watch.


Trayvon was CLEARLY suspicious. Zimmerman CLEARLY had a reason to think he was up to no good, from the way he acted by covering his face (verified by trayvon's GF) to the circumstances recorded on the phone calls.


It is amazing to me that people feel like the answer to everything is hide in your house and lock the door, while some thug is next door raping your neighbor.
 

cybrsage

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Frankly I would prefer full coverage of this case as apposed to Fox News droning on for a year about Natalie Holloway, esp since in that case her parents were guilty in putting their underage daughter in that position.

There is an age limit on travel to that island? When did that go into place? It will surely kill tourism there.
 

corwin

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You were attempting to detract from my point, I further qualified it, and now you have nothing.
You have no point, that they didn't join some dubious organization that does absolutely nothing and that almost no NW joins? There's no point to be made there...
Maybe EVERYONE like you and some others in this thread.
Now you're just lying to yourself, there's a reason why there are dress codes at companies and for things like going to court, EVERYONE judges by your appearance and if you CHOOSE to dress and act a certain way YOU WILL BE JUDGED BY IT
 
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Airing the victim's dirty laundry has no effect on what actually happened. Zimmerman stalked the victim and ultimately killed him. The only self defense that occurred would have been if Martin in fact attacked Zimmerman since he was following him... He probably thought he was going to try to rob or kill him. Zimmerman lost any valid claim to self defense the moment he stepped out of his vehicle.



Yes, it's clear that Zimmerman should have stayed in his car but instead chose to instigate an altercation that ultimately led to the death of a child.



People seeing his pictures and changing their minds must be racist. I'm guessing you also fall into this category just like the police who handled the case.

They see a young black male and just assume the worst. Had they properly checked on Zimmerman, maybe they would have investigated the situation more closely from the start.


I know, I know... shouldn't feed the trolls.



He didn't even know for sure he was black until after he had called the PD.



People seeing the pictures change their minds because trayvon family lawyers have done everything possible to portray him as a 12 year old kid.

6'3, 160++lbs, 17 years old is NOT a child. If you're old enough to have gang tattoos, gold grill, ghetto-thug pics, then you will be treated like a ghetto thug.


Why is this so hard to understand? If you want to be treated like an upstanding normal citizen and not a thug, don't dress like a thug and then run away when someone asks what you're doing in their gated community.
 

cybrsage

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there's a reason why there are dress codes at companies and for things like going to court, EVERYONE judges by your appearance and if you CHOOSE to dress and act a certain way YOU WILL BE JUDGED BY IT

Yes, you dress the way you want others to see you. Unless you are too poor to afford anything but Goodwill clothing, you have a choice as to how you dress.
 

Dari

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It would not have been ok, as it would have given the Nazi government a perfectly good excuse to go in with their heavy machine guns blazing. Rioting would have been a stupid thing to do.

Once in the death camps, an uprising would have been fine, since death was the only outcome anyway, but not in the ghettos.

That is not what he said. He said that rioting in either case is wrong. So, not only did alkeymist use the n****r word here; brag about his feats against african americans; rail against a black teenager gunned down, but now he's saying that rioting is wrong anywhere. Apparently he thinks its ok for a community to be abused by outsiders periodically but it's not ok for that community to show any type of anger. Alkeymist perhaps think highly of Hitler as well...
 

corwin

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Yes, you dress the way you want others to see you. Unless you are too poor to afford anything but Goodwill clothing, you have a choice as to how you dress.
Even then you have a choice, when I was a kid we shopped at goodwill and kmart, doesn't mean you have to dress and act like a "gangsta" unless that's the image you wish to project, that lifestyle needs to be discouraged and fall to the side so the civilized world can be done with it
 

Dari

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i hope you're right, but not at the cost of law enforcement kowtowing to the mob and arresting Z.

So, in your opinion, the police have done all they could and anything new is 'kowtowing"? You think they did an outstanding job with the investigation?
 

alkemyst

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So, in your opinion, the police have done all they could and anything new is 'kowtowing"? You think they did an outstanding job with the investigation?

They followed the law on a self-defense shooting which this was.
 

alkemyst

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That is not what he said. He said that rioting in either case is wrong. So, not only did alkeymist use the n****r word here; brag about his feats against african americans; rail against a black teenager gunned down, but now he's saying that rioting is wrong anywhere. Apparently he thinks its ok for a community to be abused by outsiders periodically but it's not ok for that community to show any type of anger. Alkeymist perhaps think highly of Hitler as well...

I didn't use that word here, I repeated it being used in a quote.

There is a difference.You can't even spell my SN correctly.
 

alkemyst

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Airing the victim's dirty laundry has no effect on what actually happened. Zimmerman stalked the victim and ultimately killed him. The only self defense that occurred would have been if Martin in fact attacked Zimmerman since he was following him... He probably thought he was going to try to rob or kill him. Zimmerman lost any valid claim to self defense the moment he stepped out of his vehicle.

Zimmerman was walking back to his SUV when attacked. The law does not agree with your opinion that stepping out of a vehicle precludes one from self-defense.
 

alkemyst

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Neither of which could be seen by Zimmerman. And the only "gang tat" I've seen is one of his mother's(?) name. Great gang name.

There are at least three of his tats online.

Who paid for his tattoos, his gold teeth?

I somehow think he was involved with all that jewelry he got caught with on campus.