Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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  1. airdata

    airdata Diamond Member

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    That's very true.

    Spatiallyaware over there has stated numerous times about how extremely intoxicated Trayvon appears in the 7-11 tapes...

    and then people like him want to go on and pretend he ' savagely attacked' zimmerman for no reason.

    You don't get high and drink cough syrup and then go out and pick a fight w\ somebody.
     
  2. Londo_Jowo

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    Some studies show people can experience paranoia and anxiety after smoking weed. Could that be what set off TM?
     
  3. Londo_Jowo

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    Yet, you can't site any law that GZ broke by trying to keep an eye on TM.

    You do realize that Dee Dee is not who she was made out to be? She's not a 16 year old minor, she's a 18 year old adult. Can't wait to see how her deposition with the defense goes and whether her story changes or has inconsistencies .
     
  4. Druidx

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    Poor Airdata, still asshurt because he was proven wrong about 5th amendment rights.
     
  5. Druidx

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    Speaking of Deedee, has it came out yet who started the lie she was only 16.
    Did she lie when asked? Did the family not know how old she was? Did Crump start the lie to prevent anyone accessing DeeDee and getting the truth?
     
  6. airdata

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    In other words, nothing I said was wrong. But George Zimmerman didn't break any laws if all he did was ' try to keep an eye on him '.

    Same w\ your second statement. You aren't disagreeing, but saying something about her age as if that means anything if she in fact heard the 2 exchange words prior to the confrontation ( which completely goes against Zimmerman's official statement )

    If Zimmerman made a false statement to police, that'd be illegal.. since you are so hung up on things being legal or illegal.
     
  7. airdata

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    The only person who can give us the truth is George Zimmerman who's being gagged by some sleazy lawyers.

    Your statement is speculative... Zimmerman's situation is not. He knows the truth and has people working hard to make sure nobody ever has access to that truth.
     
  8. Londo_Jowo

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    Please site the laws GZ broke by trying to keep an eye on TM.

    If Dee Dee or Crump fabricated a story that would also be illegal.
     
  9. TerryMathews

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    How would Zimmerman know how old DeeDee is?
     
  10. airdata

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    The proper word is ' cite '. And why would I cite something like that when I'm not arguing the point that you're trying to argue?

    You don't have to do anything illegal to show horrible judgement and decision making skills.


    Obvious statement is obvious.
     
  11. TerryMathews

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    Wow. I am glad we won you over and now you too believe Zimmerman did nothing illegal they night!
     
  12. HumblePie

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    airdata,

    Zimmerman HAS given his statement of what happened UNDER OATH several times. Given it to officers of the law and officers of the court. These are sworn statements that carry massive ramifications if he lied about the content within those statements not being truthful to the best of his knowledge at the time of giving those statements. Why are you so fucking hung up on seeing him on the stand Columbo style? This isn't a show of Perry Mason or Judge Judy. You are completely delusional if you think his story would change at all even if he was on the stand.

    The reason he is not on the stand is to not get screwed over by stupid trick or coercive questions. Such as, "So george zimmerman, when was the last time you had an active gay partner." or "George, how many squirrels have you killed in your lifetime."

    Lawyers go for strange questions like that and not yes or no questions when they get to put someone on the stand. Again, you have NOT read up on the previous links of people who were COMPLETELY innocent, getting screwed when they are on the stand because the lawyer uses stupid questions to paint the defendant in a less than innocent light. Just make them look bad or stupid enough to make a jury convict. Not that the conviction is the truth, just that the jury got a fast one pulled on them by a fast talking lawyer. It has happened many, many, MANY times.

    airdata, George has given his sworn testimony under penalty of oath several times. Most of those times WITHOUT legal representation for himself present. Deal with it.
     
  13. spidey07

    spidey07 No Lifer

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    First of many lawfuits file that will make zimmerman rich.

    http://www.tmz.com/

     
  14. soundforbjt

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    I'll bet a million he won't go after Fox. They've been far to sympathetic to GZ (see: Hannity).
     
  15. TerryMathews

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    Bet you're wrong, especially if NBC yields well for them.
     
  16. QueBert

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    People who get paranoid from weed usage hide and stay hidden. If this was the case no way in hell he would have ever came out the bushes, well unless Georgie approached him and drug him out. Which is a greater possibility than a dude high on weed and syrup starting to punch someone for no reason. weed + codeine = one of the most mellow, happy people you'd ever come across.
     
  17. Londo_Jowo

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    Keep on believing that fantasy in my 54 years of life I've seen things that prove your beliefs wrong.
     
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    ROFL


    He went to hide to stash his drugs and paraphernalia.
     
  19. spidey07

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    Lol! The new was to describe zimmerman's actions.

    Good Suit!
     
  20. waggy

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    you quoting him and bashing GZ about telling the truth is rather idiotic. do you not understand why?

    you would lose that million too. George pretty much thrown his wife and lawyer under the bus about the perjury and money. so What makes you think he is going to be that loyal to Fox?
     
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  21. echo4747

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    Not always the case:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...juana-medical-examiner-results_n_1632253.html
     
  22. spidey07

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    It's not like any of that matters in any way shape or form.

    When the attacker breaks your nose, brutally and viciously attacks you, slams your head into concrete multiple times, mounting you as you scream for help = you are WELL within your rights to kill them.

    Nothing else really matters, and that's why this is about as clear cut case of self defense as is possible. There really is no question about it at this point.

    Next up..."wasn't beaten badly enough"
     
  23. Geosurface

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    I researched pre-Trayvon information on the effects of "purple drank" extensively back when that theory was first floated, and violent behavior is well within known effects.

    As for GZ's lawyers being "sleazy" I have watched a lot of cases and as far as defense attorneys go... these are two of the least sleazy I've ever seen. In fact, they're two of the least sleazy of ANY type of lawyer I've seen.

    Of course, it helps that they have a clearly innocent client, all the facts, evidence, and law on their side, and in fact the police who investigated it in agreement with them.

    In circumstances like that, there's no need to be sleazy.

    And I love the fact that airdata is accusing George Zimmerman of hiding behind lawyers and being "gagged" and says "He's 100% coached every step of the way by sleazy lawyers"

    Oh yea, airdata? EVERY step of the way?

    What about these steps of the way?:

    1.) The night of the shooting as he stayed til the morning and reaching the point of utter exhaustion interviewing with detectives, forgoing medical treatment, and answering their every question. No lawyer present.

    2.) The next day, when on very little sleep (if any) he returned to the scene of the shooting with detectives and did a walkthrough reenactment with them. This is basically un-fucking-heard of - Still no lawyer present.

    3.) Or when he recorded screams for them to compare... still no lawyer present.

    4.) How about return interviews numbering at least 3? Still no lawyer present.

    5.) How about talking to cops multiple times on the phone whenever they'd call? Still no lawyer.

    6.) How about coming in and doing two separate voice stress lie detector tests, both of which he passed? Still no lawyer present.

    7.) How about when they specifically went and got another county's prosecutor in order to overrule the real prosecutor who had jurisdiction, and was being stubbornly fixated on the facts and law... and they asked him to drive himself down to Jacksonville, in his own car, to meet with the Grand Inquisitors who'd been rounded up for the express purpose of persecuting him illegally? And he fucking AGREED TO DO SO! STILL NO LAWYER PRESENT! Oh and btw, these fuckers would later go on to lie about trying to arrange said meeting.

    Jesus H. Christ, airdata. In the annals of law I DEFY YOU to find a more absurdly cooperative suspect, a more unguarded... guileless... even gullible rube. Yea GZ was a shmuck, and trusted law enforcement and the justice system to see the obvious truth and act accordingly. In a way, his trust paid off. His city's police department did see the truth, and so did his county's prosecutor. They had to reroll until they got someone with low enough morals and scruples to go after him.

    And you're going to sit there and paint THIS GUY as "hiding" and not giving his story?

    Get the *** out of here!
     
  24. airdata

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    Plenty of other things matter, considering we don't even know how the altercation started.

    If Zimmerman chased after and attempted to detain a 17 year old kid, and that 17 year old kid defended himself against an attacker, I find it hard to believe any jury would buy his bullshit.

    And that scenario is as or more probable than any you have suggested. We're talking about a guy here who's facing a long stint in prison if convicted. He's already shown he's capable of lying and deceiving people. There's a point at which you have to consider that anything zimmerman claims is only stated because he has to explain away all his poor decisions and erratic behavior that night.