As I said it's very possible, even likely, that GZ could've sustained the same beating TM gave him for that minute or so, looped repeatedly for a 5 hour duration. *Shrug* I have no idea. I certainly wouldn't want my life to depend on the odds, I'd rather just not be getting beaten by someone. You can't expect him to have had a full understanding of how bad the beating was at that time, it hurt like hell, it was terrifying, it was dark, he didn't know this guy. Nor does the law require him to be one punch from death, or to somehow learn the severity of the beating up to that point before defending himself... And this isn't even getting into the issue of Trayvon going for the gun, or GZ at least thinking he might be going for it. Let alone the purported verbal threat of "you gonna die tonight motherfucker" - now, do I think it's possible GZ lied about one or both of those events to make his actions seem more necessary and shield himself (unsuccessfully) from legal prosecution? Yep, I think that's very possible. But even if I grant that TM never went for the gun, GZ never thought he did... and TM never said the "you gonna die tonight thing" (And by no means do I think it's out of the realm of possibility that those things DID happen, but for argument's sake...) I don't see how this changes much. The beating and the injuries, what John saw, the ballistics... these are sufficient.