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Lifer
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wow are you saying people don't use words like ******s, spics, honkey, cracker, etc when calling 911, when talking to police?

There are many people that are friends with tons of black people and will use ****** to describe one that is a criminal the same as they might refer to white trash/beloved patriot/cracker or beloved patriot/beloved patriot....etc.

You are really playing stupid there. This is simple human nature. I don't agree with it, but I guess in your world you are either a hard-core racist or not...there is no difference.

You got a lot nerve to come in here say its okay to use some type of slur when someone is mad. No wonder you can't get along at the park and people breaking into your house, they clearly have met your dumbass. You are an ignorant ass.
 

alkemyst

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I can't see what you're saying as anything but rationalization. You're certainly not helping his case by making excuses for him using a racial slur like this when Mr. Martin's worst offense, at least at that point, was walking around his father's neighborhood. A more coherent defense might be, it doesn't matter what he thinks of black people - what matters is the events of the incident itself.

I find it very hard to intelligently analyze this incident without at least factoring in the "coons," however, and I doubt very seriously that if he were a black guy who had made a racial slur against white people, then shot one, you'd be as blasé about it.

I am not on either's side. I have stated this many times here. I will throw counter-argument to those blindly defending Martin and especially those that were claiming it was the 'these assholes' part that was the 'these fucking coons' part. It's clear many are just jumping on the bandwagon and not doing their own due diligence (which is typical and why mob mentality is easy to influence).

I posted what I feel was an accurate transcription of the calls and events and took liberty to include the profanity verbatim.
 

M0RPH

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Alkemyst, who did the transcriptions? It's is not clear that he's saying "coons", yet someone decided to transcribe it as such, and not even make a note in the transcription that it's questionable.
 
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I am not on either's side. I have stated this many times here. I will throw counter-argument to those blindly defending Martin and especially those that were claiming it was the 'these assholes' part that was the 'these fucking coons' part. It's clear many are just jumping on the bandwagon and not doing their own due diligence (which is typical and why mob mentality is easy to influence).

I posted what I feel was an accurate transcription of the calls and events and took liberty to include the profanity verbatim.

You can't seriously pretend to be neutral in this dispute - all you have done is defend Zimmerman, including making up "facts" (such as the "fact" that Zimmerman didn't know Martin's race and the "fact" that Martin was wearing "sliders" and acting like a "gangsta") and now, defending his use of a racial slur just moments before killing a black man.

I do respect your posting those transcripts, though I hardly think you deserve particular credit (as you seem to imply) for not editing out one harmful piece of evidence (the word "coons").
 

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Lifer
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Alkemyst, who did the transcriptions? It's is not clear that he's saying "coons", yet someone decided to transcribe it as such, and not even make a note in the transcription that it's questionable.

yea, only if your deaf......................
 

alkemyst

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You got a lot nerve to come in here say its okay to use some type of slur when someone is mad. And no they don't. No wonder you can't get along at the park and people breaking into your house, they clearly have met your dumbass. You are an ignorant ass.

Never said I was okay with it. You need to take a freaking chill pill with your own racism though. OH YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVE!!!! lol.

So I am supposed to get along with people breaking into cars and into my home? Is this because they were black and spanish respectively? We should give them a free pass or is it because acknowledging their race makes me a racist?
 

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Never said I was okay with it. You need to take a freaking chill pill with your own racism though. OH YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVE!!!! lol.

So I am supposed to get along with people breaking into cars and into my home? Is this because they were black and spanish respectively? We should give them a free pass or is it because acknowledging their race makes me a racist?

They break into your stuff, because they met you.
 

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Lifer
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no only because there are several tapes out there some recorded crappy and not all people have decent speakers either.

Yea he just so happens to utter under his breath a word that sounds like a derogatory slur for black people.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/my excellent compatriot


my excellent compatriot, a racial slur used in the United States and Australia to refer to black people or Aboriginals


But its okay, because he was mad.
 

waggy

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You got a lot nerve to come in here say its okay to use some type of slur when someone is mad. No wonder you can't get along at the park and people breaking into your house, they clearly have met your dumbass. You are an ignorant ass.

as i said i think this is a chance fo rhim to come out as the racist he is. he seems to be the one sprouting off racist comments and suggestions. Wich i thought the mods said they were going to take a stand on? hmm

ohwell i guess its ok.
 

OCNewbie

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This is the recording I have on my computer - http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/videos/ZIMMERMAN-911-0316.wav

That's hosted on cfnews13.com which is a local news station run by the local cable network, so I assume the likelihood that it's been tampered with is lower than some other possible host locations.

Anyway, if you skip to ~2:20, you can hear the excerpt in question. To me, in this WAV file, it sounds like he's saying "punks". In that youtube video, it sounds like more like "coons".
 

alkemyst

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Alkemyst, who did the transcriptions? It's is not clear that he's saying "coons", yet someone decided to transcribe it as such, and not even make a note in the transcription that it's questionable.

[whispers] on a 911 tape on a rainy night tells me they were in question.

it's definitely these fucking ?oons.

There is a high probability based on the previous crimes in the neighborhood rumored to being done by black people (I have not found any verification of this yet, but haven't really done much looking at this as IMHO it's relevant) he may have snapped. I am not backing these transcripts as 100% accurate. They do seem to be pretty dead on to the tapes I listened too and have not had added / removed parts. The 'inaudible' parts I cannot find reproduced yet elsewhere so these may be caused by cell phones cutting out and actually be truly inaudible.

However, the 911 call between Zimmerman and dispatch was calm and pretty profanity free. Doesn't sound like someone looking to 'hunt' black kids that night, but a bad case of judgement on both sides.


This is a pretty honest and impartial youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI5jK0I56YI

it's a white guy (for those that think only black people are on martin's side and whites on zimmerman's), not that I care...it's an interesting commentary.
 

Capt Caveman

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This is the recording I have on my computer - http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/videos/ZIMMERMAN-911-0316.wav

That's hosted on cfnews13.com which is a local news station run by the local cable network, so I assume the likelihood that it's been tampered with is lower than some other possible host locations.

Anyway, if you skip to ~2:20, you can hear the excerpt in question. To me, in this WAV file, it sounds like he's saying "punks". In that youtube video, it sounds like more like "coons".

Honestly, it sounds like 'coons' in your link.
 

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it's a white guy (for those that think only black people are on martin's side and whites on zimmerman's), not that I care...it's an interesting commentary.


I have no idea who said that or where you got this from. Many whites want this POS arrested. Many have spoken out now that details have been leaked.

Its only you and your kind, the ones who can't get along at the park, that seem to be happy for the young man's demise.
 

alkemyst

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as i said i think this is a chance fo rhim to come out as the racist he is. he seems to be the one sprouting off racist comments and suggestions. Wich i thought the mods said they were going to take a stand on? hmm

ohwell i guess its ok.

I am not doing no such thing...I am replying to what the news and commentators have also talked about.

The facts are the key things Zimmerman said that are in question as racist are:

1) He looks black.

2) they always get away

3) these fucking ?oons...

1, was in response to dispatch asking directly "Is this guy white, black, Hispanic?" Zimmerman had to pick one or possibly say he's not sure. He didn't say anything derogatory or that he was sure of the race.

2, is the media favorite...however the full line was the race neutral "These assholes, they always get away".

3, is the only really racially derogatory snippet. It was also definitely said in a lower, almost uncomfortable tone not in an authoritative "YEAH THESE F'ING [whatevers]"!

I am not sure why you are trying to say I am a racist on this...I am taking the time to actually listen to the news and think i have a transcription for all the calls expect the supposed gf call which is still officially not official. It's not been verified and came late into the game (her reasoning being she was too devastated to come forward right away). She also went directly to a lawyer and not her friends...there is a lot of question on this testimony much like those that refused to talk to police/media that first night, but are now looking to get on camera every chance they get (at least on our local news).
 

waggy

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I have no idea who said that or where you got this from. Many whites want this POS arrested. Many have spoken out now that details have been leaked.

Its only you and your kind, the ones who can't get along at the park, that seem to be happy for the young man's demise.

im white. i want him arrested. its been talked about on my family's facebook page adn they all want him arrested.


shrug. i think its more the fact racist don't want him arrested.
 

M0RPH

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Honestly, it sounds like 'coons' in your link.

If you've been told it's "coons" and expecting it to be that, then it's gonna sound like "coons". The power of suggestion is powerful.

Of course if you've already convinced yourself that it's "coons", you are not gonna hear any other possibilities.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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If you've been told it's "coons" and expecting it to be that, then it's gonna sound like "coons". The power of suggestion is powerful.

Of course if you've already convinced yourself that it's "coons", you are not gonna hear any other possibilities.

I was actually expecting to hear 'fucking punks' in that link but that's not what I heard.
 
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If you've been told it's "coons" and expecting it to be that, then it's gonna sound like "coons". The power of suggestion is powerful.

Of course if you've already convinced yourself that it's "coons", you are not gonna hear any other possibilities.

What are you suggesting it does sound like, then?
 

Capt Caveman

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I am not doing no such thing...I am replying to what the news and commentators have also talked about.

The facts are the key things Zimmerman said that are in question as racist are:

1) He looks black.

2) they always get away

3) these fucking ?oons...

1, was in response to dispatch asking directly "Is this guy white, black, Hispanic?" Zimmerman had to pick one or possibly say he's not sure. He didn't say anything derogatory or that he was sure of the race.

2, is the media favorite...however the full line was the race neutral "These assholes, they always get away".

3, is the only really racially derogatory snippet. It was also definitely said in a lower, almost uncomfortable tone not in an authoritative "YEAH THESE F'ING [whatevers]"!

I am not sure why you are trying to say I am a racist on this...I am taking the time to actually listen to the news and think i have a transcription for all the calls expect the supposed gf call which is still officially not official. It's not been verified and came late into the game (her reasoning being she was too devastated to come forward right away). She also went directly to a lawyer and not her friends...there is a lot of question on this testimony much like those that refused to talk to police/media that first night, but are now looking to get on camera every chance they get (at least on our local news).

I suggest you read your posts prior to today in this thread. You came across as a racist George Zimmerman and I called you out on it. Now, you're being semi-impartial, total 180. Though if you think saying racist comments in the heat of things is not racists, that's racist.
 

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This is the most exceedingly well disguised nef thread I've ever seen.

The only person neffing here is you. You come here and shit out your useless opinion that has nothing to do with the subject at hand, only the thread per se. Get the fuck out of the fucking thread. No one here gives a fuck what you think. Go away.
 

alkemyst

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I have no idea who said that or where you got this from. Many whites want this POS arrested. Many have spoken out now that details have been leaked.

Its only you and your kind, the ones who can't get along at the park, that seem to be happy for the young man's demise.

I get along fine at the park. The person I had arrested last week had tons of priors as well and had a volkswagen gti's door open and the trunk popped at the time I called.

I am at the park nearly every day...while break ins are happening almost every day, most I haven't witnessed in the making. I have been able to catch one other set of guys, but only speeding, reckless driving and failure to yield to law enforcement (I think that was all) were their offenses.

What is my kind though?

I also never said there aren't whites for Martin and blacks for Zimmerman, I said there are those that think that.

You are really odd though.

You claim Zimmerman is a racist.

You claim people do not use racial terms on 911 or in talking to the police.

you claim there aren't racists following this, but that I somehow am?

Again I will reiterate, since maybe you really can't comprehend in your own blind hate:

I don't have an opinion on who is guilty.

I believe BOTH made mistakes in judgement that night.

I believe the media has polluted the evidence and have taken too much liberty with it.

I am listening to everything myself and taking it only from reliable sources as opposed to a page hosted by "xXxFightDaPowAH_1998xXx"

You are just name calling and guessing.