Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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Fern

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I bet Nancy Grace is salivating for this to go to trial.

Will Greta Van Sustern camp out in Sandford?

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Fern

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Servers are fvcked up!

I read the post below well before I typed this post.

Then, it DP's on me.

Fern
 

Blackjack200

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They've already explained the extent of his damage being a bloodied nose and however much blood on back of head. Why would they leave out swollen eye? Busted lip? Etc..

If you're going to detail some of it, why would they leave any out?

Yeah, doesn't really rise to the level of what you'd expect an extended beating that made a person fear for their life would look like, does it?

What a pathetic loser. Assaults a 17 year old kid he has 100 ponds on and gets put on his ass. It would be ironic if he really did fear for his life right before he finally lost it.
 

OCNewbie

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They've already explained the extent of his damage being a bloodied nose and however much blood on back of head. Why would they leave out swollen eye? Busted lip? Etc..

If you're going to detail some of it, why would they leave any out?

I don't have an answer for you. I believe I did read that he had scratches, scrapes, and/or marks on his face as well.
 

spidey07

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What part do you not understand that Zimmerman provoke the situation by chasing and then stalking the kid? Damn you are fucking tool.

What evidence do you have that he chased him? You keep saying "chase" I don't think you know what that word means. Neighborhood watch people normally try to keep an eye on suspicious people.

Do people still deny the fact that Martin was indeed acting suspicious (even unintentionally).
 

OCNewbie

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He knew he was black, Chief lied

I don't think this really says much. Normally, when someone lies, they don't do so when they know for certain something will soon be revealed to expose this lie. The chief had to know that the 911 tapes would be released eventually, if not soon, even. I don't think this "lie" indicates any sort of cover up in the investigation, or whatever you were implying earlier.
 

spidey07

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here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBxC5bRbruQ

check out the 1minute 07 second mark. Mr. Zimmerman says "and he's a black Male"

Lee said no proof of racial profiling, and the tape confirms that. Zimmerman only discovered his race AFTER the call when Martin approached him and looked at him.

Let's stick to the facts, and not this made up shit, OK? Suspicious behavior is still suspicious regardless of race (which zimmerman obviously didn't know until martin got closer/approached him).

Those tapes prove the facts line up with zimmerman's story/account. Along with all the other evidence as well.
 

soundforbjt

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What evidence do you have that he chased him? You keep saying "chase" I don't think you know what that word means. Neighborhood watch people normally try to keep an eye on suspicious people.
You can hear his fat ass gasping for breath as he "chases" him.

spidey07 said:
Do people still deny the fact that Martin was indeed acting suspicious (even unintentionally).

Only a paranoid, wannabe Barney Fife would even care,
 

OCNewbie

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Has this been shared yet?

George is a Spanish speaking minority with many black family members and friends. He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. One black neighbor recently interviewed said she knew everything in the media was untrue and that she would trust George with her life. Another black neighbor said that George was the only one, black or white, who came and welcomed her to the community, offering any assistance he could provide. Recently, I met two black children George invited to a social event. I asked where they met George. They responded that he was their mentor. They said George visited them routinely, took them places, helped them, and taught them things and that they really loved George. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth.

I believe that's a quote from Zimmerman's father in a letter sent to the Orlando Sentinel.
 

OCNewbie

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Guys... I think we're on the verge of cracking this case. Just a little more debate and I truly believe we're going to get to the bottom of this.
 
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I believe based on actual evidence and testimony no charges will ever filed against Mr Zimmerman. No civil rights violations will be found. No lawsuits will filed as the plaintiffs will not want to pay their legal fees but Mr Zimmerman's legal fees, court costs, and lost wages as well.

I would actually be willing to lay money that a civil suit will be filed. I would be stunned if one is not, both against Zimmerman and the HOA.
 

Phokus

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Lee said no proof of racial profiling, and the tape confirms that. Zimmerman only discovered his race AFTER the call when Martin approached him and looked at him.

Let's stick to the facts, and not this made up shit, OK? Suspicious behavior is still suspicious regardless of race (which zimmerman obviously didn't know until martin got closer/approached him).

Those tapes prove the facts line up with zimmerman's story/account. Along with all the other evidence as well.

Lee said he didn't know what race he was, you lying racist cock gobbler, YOU'RE the one making shit up:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2697604/trayvon-martins-parents-criss.html

In an interview this week with the Miami Herald, Police Chief Bill Lee said the 911 calls would prove the incident was not a case of racial profiling, because when asked whether the suspect was white or black, Zimmerman did not know. However the recording clearly shows that when asked, Zimmerman said, “He looks black.” And then a few moments later, “He’s a black male.”
 

Blackjack200

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Lee said no proof of racial profiling, and the tape confirms that. Zimmerman only discovered his race AFTER the call when Martin approached him and looked at him.

Let's stick to the facts, and not this made up shit, OK? Suspicious behavior is still suspicious regardless of race (which zimmerman obviously didn't know until martin got closer/approached him).

Those tapes prove the facts line up with zimmerman's story/account. Along with all the other evidence as well.

Why is your boy in hiding? I thought the whole point of all these pro gun FL laws is so you vigilantes wouldn't have to back down. Why isn't he standing his ground? Doesn't he have any honor?

Has this been shared yet?



I believe that's a quote from Zimmerman's father in a letter sent to the Orlando Sentinel.

Aww, sounds like the sweetest most nicest murderer ever.
 

Bitek

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If I was a criminal casing a neighborhood, I wouldn't do it in broad daylight. I was mainly mentioning the fact that it was raining outside, and Trayvon had a hoodie on, which somewhat masked his identity; again, something a criminal would probably do. I'm just saying I can understand why Zimmerman, when taking into account all the facts of the situation he was in at that time, felt that Trayvon was worth keeping an eye on.

Yes, Z was a roleplay supercop who was out to find criminals. Big surprise he convinced himself he had found exactly what he was looking for.
 
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It amazes me that some here are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman casually murdered this kid AND that the police are complicit. There is evidence that Zimmerman acted irresponsibly; there is no evidence to support an assumption of intentional murder, nor of a police cover-up.

It also amazes me that some here are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman did a completely justified and even good thing. A 17 year old kid harming no one had his life brutally snuffed out. Whether or not Zimmerman was legally or even morally justified in shooting him, Zimmerman also had the ability to make this not happen, period. This shooting was NOT a good thing. The absolute best it could be is a horrible thing.

People need to grow the fuck up. This is more than our own prejudices and biases.

Yeah, I would agree with all of the above. I find it particularly offensive that some posters here seem inclined to vilify Trayvon Martin and talk glibly about a "good shoot." If the discourse on both sides of this issue were reasonable and even-handed (and I fully admit my own has not consistently been), this thread would be one tenth the size.

I will say, however, that it appears the police handled this matter in a less-than-ideal way, which not only encourages conspiracy theorists with respect to their investigation and also jeopardizes the odds this matter will ever be satisfactorily resolved.
 

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Lee said he didn't know what race he was, you lying racist cock gobbler, YOU'RE the one making shit up:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2697604/trayvon-martins-parents-criss.html

In an interview this week with the Miami Herald, Police Chief Bill Lee said the 911 calls would prove the incident was not a case of racial profiling, because when asked whether the suspect was white or black, Zimmerman did not know. However the recording clearly shows that when asked, Zimmerman said, “He looks black.” And then a few moments later, “He’s a black male.”

I just want to point out that that doesn't appear to be a direct, word-for-word, quote, necessarily.