"Unable to load Operating System"

GeekDrew

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I happened to be talking to a friend of mine last night on the phone, when her son ran in the room to tell her that his computer wouldn't start up. Since it was already 1:30, she didn't want to invest too much time into it last night, but she asked me if I would help her out with troubleshooting it / fixing it over the phone (because she lives in Chicago, and I'm in Columbus).

Her son said that his most recent activity on the computer had been browsing the internet, and then he downloaded (and I assume installed) something from "an official microsoft site for java". I don't know if the computer rebooted itself, or what, but it won't start back up now - it just says "Unable to load Operating System". This is a Dell... no idea what model, I was too tired to think clearly enough to ask. I stepped her through changing to the appropriate boot order, and got her into Windows installation by booting from the windows CD. At that point, I hung up, because she's able to figure most things out, and I thought she could take it from there.

A few minutes later, I get an IM saying that it asked her which partition to install windows on - she saw a 32 MB partition, and a "huge" partition. She chose the large one. She said that the install program worked for a brief while, and then halted with an error message saying "an error has occured and cannot continue the installation process, press F3 to exit".

Because I've never seen this specific problem before, I'm assuming that the partition is somehow screwed up, or that there are corrupted files on the partition that are preventing Windows from reinstalling, and that the next logical step would be to delete the large partition, recreate it, reformat it, and then attempt to reinstall Windows onto it. Anyone care to agree/disagree with that? Any suggestions for an alternate "next-step"?

Thx.
 

ElFenix

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sounds like the drive is dead. that other partition is a dell backup partition and doesn't interfere with windows installation in my experience

edit: oh they didn't format the large partition? that might be the culprit. i wouldn't try that first though, unless they can really live without whatever is on there. i'd go buy a cheap after rebate hdd, stick that in there, remove the other drive, install windows, and then put the other drive back in to see what can be recovered.
 

murphy55d

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since i dont think Nik is here right now to scream it,

WRONG FORUM!!!!

and if it were me, I'd just reformat and reinstall. i hate messing with stuff anymore. this is why i have 3 hard drives and dont have to worry about backing anything up.
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
sounds like the drive is dead. that other partition is a dell backup partition and doesn't interfere with windows installation in my experience

...or a bad install.
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
sounds like the drive is dead. that other partition is a dell backup partition and doesn't interfere with windows installation in my experience

edit: oh they didn't format the large partition? that might be the culprit. i wouldn't try that first though, unless they can really live without whatever is on there. i'd go buy a cheap after rebate hdd, stick that in there, remove the other drive, install windows, and then put the other drive back in to see what can be recovered.

Well... this lady's son is 14 years old - I'm told he does massive amounts of gaming, and also does all of his school work on this computer. The computer was 1 year old as of this past Christmas, FWIW. I asked her if she was absolutely certain that they could live without all the data, meaning EVERYTHING currently on the computer, and she said that she wasn't too terribly worried about it. I intentionally told her not to format it last night, just so that we could save any data (on the off chance that windows reinstall would work without reformatting).

If I were going to be doing it, I'd swap in one of my extra drives (or tell her to run down to some store and buy the cheapest one she could find) to put it in and reinstall windows on, then put the other back in, just as you suggested. But, there's no way that I'm going to her house, I don't want to take the chance of her or her son damaging hardware by opening it up, and we're trying to avoid her taking it to a repair place.

Yeah - I'd also assume that the small partition is a Dell backup partition. I've never had any problem with it interfering with anything.
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: murphy55d
since i dont think Nik is here right now to scream it,

WRONG FORUM!!!!

and if it were me, I'd just reformat and reinstall. i hate messing with stuff anymore. this is why i have 3 hard drives and dont have to worry about backing anything up.

What happens if your PSU catches on fire or suddenly sends a big spike of voltage out to all of your hard drives?
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: murphy55d
since i dont think Nik is here right now to scream it,

WRONG FORUM!!!!

and if it were me, I'd just reformat and reinstall. i hate messing with stuff anymore. this is why i have 3 hard drives and dont have to worry about backing anything up.

What happens if your PSU catches on fire or suddenly sends a big spike of voltage out to all of your hard drives?

They would die...but you'd be much more worried about other things than your hard drives if you PSU caught fire...
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: murphy55d
since i dont think Nik is here right now to scream it,

WRONG FORUM!!!!

and if it were me, I'd just reformat and reinstall. i hate messing with stuff anymore. this is why i have 3 hard drives and dont have to worry about backing anything up.

What happens if your PSU catches on fire or suddenly sends a big spike of voltage out to all of your hard drives?

They would die...but you'd be much more worried about other things than your hard drives if you PSU caught fire...

You would?
 

murphy55d

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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: murphy55d
since i dont think Nik is here right now to scream it,

WRONG FORUM!!!!

and if it were me, I'd just reformat and reinstall. i hate messing with stuff anymore. this is why i have 3 hard drives and dont have to worry about backing anything up.

What happens if your PSU catches on fire or suddenly sends a big spike of voltage out to all of your hard drives?


you assume all my hard drives are internal and are turned on all the time.
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: murphy55d
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: murphy55d
since i dont think Nik is here right now to scream it,

WRONG FORUM!!!!

and if it were me, I'd just reformat and reinstall. i hate messing with stuff anymore. this is why i have 3 hard drives and dont have to worry about backing anything up.

What happens if your PSU catches on fire or suddenly sends a big spike of voltage out to all of your hard drives?


you assume all my hard drives are internal and are turned on all the time.

Indeed I did. *Most* of the time, that assumption would be correct.