Ultimate fighter vs. Navy Seal- who wins?

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: marchenko
Anyone who disputes the fact that a highly trained veteran Navy SEAL (such as a DEVGRU SEAL-counterterrorism team 6) wouldnt annihilate a top MMA fighter should go back and read some of my posts...I would love to see some MMA fighter step into the atmosphere at a Navy SEAL unit....we would be talking about a boy among men who is completely out of his league!

yeah, since most pro fighters grew up in the best areas with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Your avatar is pretty reveiling though on your beliefs.

In the end the fight isn't fought though until it's won.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: alkemyst
This thread is nonsense...no fight can be decided until it's fought.

I like how people here think a SEAL is suddenly chuck norris because of a few weeks of training. SEALs get better with time but a pro-fighter does to and does it EVERYDAY usually.

Many pro-fighters would have no problem killing someone, some probably have already done so.

:Q

a few weeks? Those guys go through 30 months of training with a 90% dropout rate

That's just a few weeks compared to a lifetime for most pro fighters. I'd say more pro-fighters have seriously maimed/killed someone than SEALS.

Also I don't know where 30months comes from...I am PRETTY DAMN SURE the training is 30 weeks.

No it's 30 months. And what the hell are you talking about with the mma fighters killing more people?

Yeah, Im so sure that athletes have killed more people than soldiers... =/ Gimme a break.

 

[randay]

depends on if the ultimage fighter has phil nurse in his corner or not.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Overestimate what it takes? Are you referring to hand to hand combat, or the course in general? That may be the craziest thing I have ever seen posted in my life. If anything, it's just the opposite.

either you watch too many movies or are too out of shape to realize the requirements in real life. Based on your avatar I bet you are the guy that I saw get knocked the fuck out claiming to be part of an army unit while the same guys were actually in the bar.

So you been to BUDS training recently? Go ahead and tell me the real life requirements. You better be something special making those kinds of claims. My avatar means I support the troops.

why don't you share those requirements with all of us?

Why would I tell you when you said I was too out of shape to realize what the real requirements were? I don't know, so why don't YOU tell me?

 

[marchenko]

Avatar??? who is this guy talking about avatar with these childish comic book posts...i bet he plays video games and then grabs some cheetoes and watches UFC fights all night!!! get a life!!!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Overestimate what it takes? Are you referring to hand to hand combat, or the course in general? That may be the craziest thing I have ever seen posted in my life. If anything, it's just the opposite.

either you watch too many movies or are too out of shape to realize the requirements in real life. Based on your avatar I bet you are the guy that I saw get knocked the fuck out claiming to be part of an army unit while the same guys were actually in the bar.

So you been to BUDS training recently? Go ahead and tell me the real life requirements. You better be something special making those kinds of claims. My avatar means I support the troops.

why don't you share those requirements with all of us?

Why would I tell you when you said I was too out of shape to realize what the real requirements were? I don't know, so why don't YOU tell me?

You are the one professing otherwise. You a SEAL? Are you even in the military?

Outline the 30 month program please...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: alkemyst
This thread is nonsense...no fight can be decided until it's fought.

I like how people here think a SEAL is suddenly chuck norris because of a few weeks of training. SEALs get better with time but a pro-fighter does to and does it EVERYDAY usually.

Many pro-fighters would have no problem killing someone, some probably have already done so.

:Q

a few weeks? Those guys go through 30 months of training with a 90% dropout rate

That's just a few weeks compared to a lifetime for most pro fighters. I'd say more pro-fighters have seriously maimed/killed someone than SEALS.

Also I don't know where 30months comes from...I am PRETTY DAMN SURE the training is 30 weeks.

No it's 30 months. And what the hell are you talking about with the mma fighters killing more people?

Yeah, Im so sure that athletes have killed more people than soldiers... =/ Gimme a break.

Professional fighters are a bit different than the typical athlete.

SEALS are usually just some bumpkin with a hair up his ass.

 

[Lucky777]

Rainbow pants FTW.
http://img258.imageshack.us/im.../aokirainbowtq5ra4.jpg

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
Overestimate what it takes? Are you referring to hand to hand combat, or the course in general? That may be the craziest thing I have ever seen posted in my life. If anything, it's just the opposite.

either you watch too many movies or are too out of shape to realize the requirements in real life. Based on your avatar I bet you are the guy that I saw get knocked the fuck out claiming to be part of an army unit while the same guys were actually in the bar.

So you been to BUDS training recently? Go ahead and tell me the real life requirements. You better be something special making those kinds of claims. My avatar means I support the troops.

why don't you share those requirements with all of us?

Why would I tell you when you said I was too out of shape to realize what the real requirements were? I don't know, so why don't YOU tell me?

You are the one professing otherwise. You a SEAL? Are you even in the military?

Outline the 30 month program please...

Yeah Im in the military, what does that have to do with anything? I already told you I don't know the outline of the training, but you obviously do since you said its much easier than I think. Making a claim like that you are ex spec ops, an absolute stud, or a loser sitting at his moms house. My guess is you wouldnt make it to day 2.

 

[marchenko]

alkemyst...now i know you are a complete idiot just seeking attention...ok avatar comic book guy

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: alkemyst
This thread is nonsense...no fight can be decided until it's fought.

I like how people here think a SEAL is suddenly chuck norris because of a few weeks of training. SEALs get better with time but a pro-fighter does to and does it EVERYDAY usually.

Many pro-fighters would have no problem killing someone, some probably have already done so.

:Q

a few weeks? Those guys go through 30 months of training with a 90% dropout rate

That's just a few weeks compared to a lifetime for most pro fighters. I'd say more pro-fighters have seriously maimed/killed someone than SEALS.

Also I don't know where 30months comes from...I am PRETTY DAMN SURE the training is 30 weeks.

No it's 30 months. And what the hell are you talking about with the mma fighters killing more people?

Yeah, Im so sure that athletes have killed more people than soldiers... =/ Gimme a break.

Professional fighters are a bit different than the typical athlete.

SEALS are usually just some bumpkin with a hair up his ass.

both of you are idiots about this. SEALS are not amazing hand to hand fighters. they are great in the situatuions they are needed. they train (and hard) for that.

MOST MMA fighters start off with wrestling, martial arts or such. i would say 90% of the time they start off at a young age.

IN a MMA fight (notice i say MMA fight. NOT a batlefield. there is a huge diffrence) i would put my money on the MMA fighter (really depends on who it is) nearly every time.

now if i need someone to go kill a bunch fo people and blow up a building i will call the SEALS

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: alkemyst
This thread is nonsense...no fight can be decided until it's fought.

I like how people here think a SEAL is suddenly chuck norris because of a few weeks of training. SEALs get better with time but a pro-fighter does to and does it EVERYDAY usually.

Many pro-fighters would have no problem killing someone, some probably have already done so.

:Q

a few weeks? Those guys go through 30 months of training with a 90% dropout rate

That's just a few weeks compared to a lifetime for most pro fighters. I'd say more pro-fighters have seriously maimed/killed someone than SEALS.

Also I don't know where 30months comes from...I am PRETTY DAMN SURE the training is 30 weeks.

No it's 30 months. And what the hell are you talking about with the mma fighters killing more people?

Yeah, Im so sure that athletes have killed more people than soldiers... =/ Gimme a break.

Professional fighters are a bit different than the typical athlete.

SEALS are usually just some bumpkin with a hair up his ass.

both of you are idiots about this. SEALS are not amazing hand to hand fighters. they are great in the situatuions they are needed. they train (and hard) for that.

MOST MMA fighters start off with wrestling, martial arts or such. i would say 90% of the time they start off at a young age.

IN a MMA fight (notice i say MMA fight. NOT a batlefield. there is a huge diffrence) i would put my money on the MMA fighter (really depends on who it is) nearly every time.

now if i need someone to go kill a bunch fo people and blow up a building i will call the SEALS

LOL where do you get off telling people they are idiots? What is your SEAL experience and knowledge? An hour long special on the military channel?

 

[marchenko]

Another misinformed MMA hype boy!!! google the SCARS institute in Arizona and read and you will discover that this style of fighting which is trained to SPECOPS soldiers can deal with any MMA form..you dont know what the F you are talking about...what? did you watch the Discovery channel show about SEALS and now you are some expert...errrrtttt!

 

[lyssword]

I dunno, this thread has a potential to become "Does the plane take off"

 

[Lucky777]

Fedor could kill anyone with just his stare.
His brother kills bears with his bare hands for sport.

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I'd say more pro-fighters have seriously maimed/killed someone than SEALS.

BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, this seriously made my night.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
LOL where do you get off telling people they are idiots? What is your SEAL experience and knowledge? An hour long special on the military channel?

where do i get off? history.

Seals have tried to cross over into MMA (Wolff) and they have lost fights.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Lucky777
Fedor could kill anyone with just his stare.
His brother kills bears with his bare hands for sport.

as i said in another thread Fedor is not human. he is a cyborg come back in time to dominate MMA.

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I'd say more pro-fighters have seriously maimed/killed someone than SEALS.

BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, this seriously made my night.

lol. yeah thats just stupid.

IN a MMA match i will put money on the MMA guy. in something that has to do with killing/maiming etc i will back the seal.

 

[TehMac]

This thread is retarded. Try putting an MMA fighter in the same situation as a SEAL, he'll end up crapping his pants day three.

I don't pretend to know exactly everything like some people in this thread, but instead of arguing out of your ass for the sake of not looking like a fool, try to take a breath, and realize there are more important things in life than arguing about hypotheticalities.

(alkemyst).

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
LOL where do you get off telling people they are idiots? What is your SEAL experience and knowledge? An hour long special on the military channel?

where do i get off? history.

Seals have tried to cross over into MMA (Wolff) and they have lost fights.

Lol well maybe you need to go back to school. The Wolff brothers are 7-3 and 2-0 in MMA. Then there are Brian Stann and Brandon Vera, ex military. What do you think the military does after they complete basic training (or for SEALs the 30 month training)? Do you think everyone sits around and says, "man basic training was hard 10 years ago"? They train all the time. For those who make a career of it, they train for over 20 years!

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: TehMac
This thread is retarded. Try putting an MMA fighter in the same situation as a SEAL, he'll end up crapping his pants day three.

I don't pretend to know exactly everything like some people in this thread, but instead of arguing out of your ass for the sake of not looking like a fool, try to take a breath, and realize there are more important things in life than arguing about hypotheticalities.

(alkemyst).

and i don't think anyone is saying (well maybe alky but he is nuts) that a MMA fighter could do a seals job. to expect that is just insane. hell there are very few in the world that can do it.

some are saying that SEALs are not the end all be all for HAND TO HAND. put a seal in a CAGE with a MMA fighter and the MMA guy has a damn good chance.

now you throw them out on the street with no rules? yeah diffrent story.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
LOL where do you get off telling people they are idiots? What is your SEAL experience and knowledge? An hour long special on the military channel?

where do i get off? history.

Seals have tried to cross over into MMA (Wolff) and they have lost fights.

Lol well maybe you need to go back to school. The Wolff brothers are 7-3 and 2-0 in MMA. Then there are Brian Stann and Brandon Vera, ex military. What do you think the military does after they complete basic training (or for SEALs the 30 month training)? Do you think everyone sits around and says, "man basic training was hard 10 years ago"? They train all the time. For those who make a career of it, they train for over 20 years!

again he lost. 3 times. And has yet to hit the top talent. BUT i do expect them both to be damn good. they have the history (both have been in martial arts from a very young age..like a LOT of mma fighters).

I'm not saying SEALs would flounder and do bad in MMA. i am saying that (unlike you) that MMA fighters have a damn good chance against a SEAL.

MOST MMA fighters (like seals) train long hours for years. but unlike SEALS they don't train for everything. A MMA fighter just trains for fighting thats it. where a SEAL has a ton of other shit they need to be experts in.

 

[LS21]

if they would be competitive in MMA of the 2500 active seals youd think more than a few would be fighting... even temporary for the $ score... think about it

 

[umbrella39]

I'd put my money on the Leopard Seal, especially if the fight took place under water.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: TehMac
This thread is retarded. Try putting an MMA fighter in the same situation as a SEAL, he'll end up crapping his pants day three.

I don't pretend to know exactly everything like some people in this thread, but instead of arguing out of your ass for the sake of not looking like a fool, try to take a breath, and realize there are more important things in life than arguing about hypotheticalities.

(alkemyst).

and i don't think anyone is saying (well maybe alky but he is nuts) that a MMA fighter could do a seals job. to expect that is just insane. hell there are very few in the world that can do it.

some are saying that SEALs are not the end all be all for HAND TO HAND. put a seal in a CAGE with a MMA fighter and the MMA guy has a damn good chance.

now you throw them out on the street with no rules? yeah diffrent story.

Depends on the situation and the context. It also depends on things like intellect. Both MMAs and SEALs are both trained to improvise, thing is, SEALs are trained to use their environment, they are incredibly badass. I met a SEAL who showed me how to kill someone with a credit card (No bull shit, although feel free to call it).