UK would run out of food a year from now with no-deal Brexit, NFU warns

[UglyCasanova]

The US exports a shit ton of food except to the UK for some reason? EU farmers are going to turn down exports because there isn’t a trade deal? Doesn’t make sense. They may pay higher prices but whatever they still get the food.

 

[K1052]

The US exports a shit ton of food except to the UK for some reason? EU farmers are going to turn down exports because there isn’t a trade deal? Doesn’t make sense. They may pay higher prices but whatever they still get the food.

It's the inbound side that's the problem. Unless the brits decide to waive customs and duties on food shipments it's going to be a debacle.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I mean if the alternative is no food I’d think that would be a no brainer? The UK is a very modern country, I think they can figure out how to import stuff.

 

[Moonbeam]

Maybe they will make money on rubber Trump blimps.

 

[K1052]

I mean if the alternative is no food I’d think that would be a no brainer? The UK is a very modern country, I think they can figure out how to import stuff.

If you're going to keep the EU standards then why leave the EU at all when one of the big promises was that you wouldn't have to?

On the second part...lol. Modern yes. Able to organize this effort...absolutely not.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Why would they have to? They can import whatever they want.

 

[FreshBross]

Time for UK business investors to start investing in controlled environment farms, at least have a massive stock of produce to market.

 

[Jhhnn]

Brexit is the British version of Trump as President.

 

[K1052]

Why would they have to? They can import whatever they want.

The idea of no rules probably sounds good until there is a major food-borne illness outbreak from sketchy products imported without inspections. They are not equipped in the slightest to do those inspections.

 

[UglyCasanova]

The idea of no rules probably sounds good until there is a major food-borne illness outbreak from sketchy products imported without inspections. They are not equipped in the slightest to do those inspections.

How do they manage currently?

 

[K1052]

How do they manage currently?

My understanding is that EU standards pretty much regulate these things, negating the need for any inspections inside the bloc. This is what's facilitated easy ag and food product trade between EU nations.

 

[UglyCasanova]

So if the UK imports from the EU it would I’m assuming abide by that by default? I could see it being an issue if the UK was trying to export into the EU but I don’t see how the opposite would be a problem.

 

[K1052]

So if the UK imports from the EU it would I’m assuming abide by that by default? I could see it being an issue if the UK was trying to export into the EU but I don’t see how the opposite would be a problem.

The UK would have to trust, without recourse, that what they are getting meets those standards if they waived inspections. That's not a good position to be in.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Why would they waive inspections, I’m just not following what Brexit would have to do with it. If they don’t inspect imports they are having to trust in the exporter regardless of if they are in a union or not. If they sold them a bad product why wouldn’t they have recourse? There exists import/export insurance and I don’t know the legal system there but I’d imagine they have avenues to pursue selling them a faulty product.

 

[Jaskalas]

Why are they continuing down this path? Its clear the russian's sowed dissent among the dumb rural people to fuck up Britain.

What you don't understand is that, no matter what outside forces endorse it, the dissent among "dumb rural people" is real. That happens when social safety nets are watered down and fail to provide substance. Capitalism, world over, is evolving. One must adapt or be taken down by the rising tide of populist revolt.

We live on the eve of a new era. It might become very messy first.

 

[K1052]

Why would they waive inspections, I’m just not following what Brexit would have to do with it. If they don’t inspect imports they are having to trust in the exporter regardless of if they are in a union or not. If they sold them a bad product why wouldn’t they have recourse? There exists import/export insurance and I don’t know the legal system there but I’d imagine they have avenues to pursue selling them a faulty product.

Customs backups. The government has already admitted they're waaay behind on a program to handle customs. Business seem to think that the delays will grind trade to a crawl.

They are protected by EU rules while in the EU.

I guess we'll see who's right in a few months heh.

 

[Jhhnn]

So if the UK imports from the EU it would I’m assuming abide by that by default? I could see it being an issue if the UK was trying to export into the EU but I don’t see how the opposite would be a problem.

There are no customs inspections between EU members. So if I take a truckload of produce through the Chunnel to the UK customs waves me through in both directions. The amount of commerce is huge & I doubt either party will go without inspections, jamming it up all to Hell and gone. Might be some illegal eastern europeans hiding in all that lettuce! It's one of those "Fuck me? No, Fuck You!" deals.

The Brits can get a good deal on cut rate US soybeans, however, as if British food generally isn't bad enough already.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Whether they want to inspect it is up to them. Currently it sounds like they aren’t inspecting any, so if they abandon any efforts to do so they have status quoa. They aren’t gonna starve.

 

[Jhhnn]

What you don't understand is that, no matter what outside forces endorse it, the dissent among "dumb rural people" is real. That happens when social safety nets are watered down and fail to provide substance. Capitalism, world over, is evolving. One must adapt or be taken down by the rising tide of populist revolt.

We live on the eve of a new era. It might become very messy first.

The problem, of course, is that those people don't want no stinking social safety net. Don't want nuthin from de gubmint! They have no plan to get a bigger piece of the pie other than voting for more trickle down. Cuz God, guns, gays, trans, blacks, browns, illegals, feminists, taxes, welfare queens, abortion & protecting their precious bodily fluids. Cuz Fuck You!

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Well . . . I like Stilton cheese. I think it would be hard to f** up fish and chips. They exported little tins of beef and truffle pie. Was that it? Maybe. But the myth about British cuisine matches the myth I've had about it in my mind, despite being relatively ignorant on the topic. Anthony Bourdain had a nice episode visiting the UK, which gave me an appetite. That was just before he punched out early.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Well . . . I like Stilton cheese. I think it would be hard to f** up fish and chips. They exported little tins of beef and truffle pie. Was that it? Maybe. But the myth about British cuisine matches the myth I've had about it in my mind, despite being relatively ignorant on the topic. Anthony Bourdain had a nice episode visiting the UK, which gave me an appetite. That was just before he punched out early.

They should stop with the vinegar, that would improve the cuisine a lot already.

 

[JSt0rm]

Gonna starve my country to own the libs

 

[Darwin333]

So instead of thoughts and prayers I'm supposed to send Fish and Chips?

I'll be sending American whiskey just to fuck with them a bit. If nothing else is available they will sure as hell drink it.

 

[Jaskalas]

Gonna starve my country to own the libs

Maybe they can eat bootstraps.

 

[kage69]

Alarming news, and a testament to what wonderful Pyrrhic victories hollow nationalism can lead to.

Great Britain will not go hungry though. There is absolutely zero chance America would allow it's older brother to go down the Venezuela path. We would see convoys of aid, just like we did for them in the 40s. It won't come to that though, the Brits are clever and resourceful people. They didn't stomp about the globe conquering people because they were lazy.