UK Sikhs/Hindus Outraged Over Being Labelled Asians

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http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/05/uk-sikhs-and-hindus-fed-up-with-being.html

In Britain there are muslim gangs going out and raping non-muslim girls. Almost all of the perpetrators are of Pakistani origin yet because of political correctness these gangs are being labelled "Asian".

This is grossly unfair to Hindus and Sikhs as well as Asian people because they are being lumped in as rapists, It is insulting and disrespectful to them and just shows how political correctness has gone too far. Members of the communities were outraged over this and think its unfair and wrong.

Why are there muslim gangs raping non-muslim girls and why do people insist on labeling them as Asian even though other innocent people get lumped in?

Do you believe that political correctness has gone too far and multiculturalism is a failure?
 
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http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/05/uk-sikhs-and-hindus-fed-up-with-being.html

In Britain there are muslim gangs going out and raping non-muslim girls. Almost all of the perpetrators are of Pakistani origin yet because of political correctness these gangs are being labelled "Asian".

This is grossly unfair to Hindus and Sikhs as well as Asian people because they are being lumped in as rapists, It is insulting and disrespectful to them and just shows how political correctness has gone too far. Members of the communities were outraged over this and think its unfair and wrong.

Why are there muslim gangs raping non-muslim girls and why do people insist on labeling them as Asian even though other innocent people get lumped in?

Do you believe that political correctness has gone too far and multiculturalism is a failure?

Last time I checked, people from the continent of asia were considered asian.
 

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A year or more ago there was a topic dealing with race and I posted a rather long answer about how terms like "asian" are meaningless in the truest sense. ~99% of Russia is in Asia. India is in Asia. The Middle East is in Asia. Thus they are all truly asian. I was born in North America, as were my parents, and their parents, and their parents, and their parents, and their parents. I am, for all intents and purposes, a native American, yet I am not a Native American. And so on. It's all just stupid.
 
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Last time I checked, people from the continent of asia were considered asian.

The problem with this is that the gangs are muslim only gangs who are raping non muslims and are predominantly from pakistan, because of political correctness they are calling the gangs asian but they are muslim only gangs.

As well by calling them Asian it implies that Hindus and Sikhs along with other asians are associated with the rapings when they aren't. Many Hindu and Sikh girls have also been raped.
 

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A year or more ago there was a topic dealing with race and I posted a rather long answer about how terms like "asian" are meaningless in the truest sense. ~99% of Russia is in Asia. India is in Asia. The Middle East is in Asia. Thus they are all truly asian. I was born in North America, as were my parents, and their parents, and their parents, and their parents, and their parents. I am, for all intents and purposes, a native American, yet I am not a Native American. And so on. It's all just stupid.

Egypt is part of Africa ;)
 

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In case anyone wants to read an ACTUAL article rather than the knee-jerk drivel that Incorruptible posts, here's a major British media outlet (The Guardian) doing an in-depth article on the problem almost two full weeks before his article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/08/asian-sex-gangs-on-street-grooming

Oh, and every single major news outlet also had articles on it, all at the same time:

The Commentator
The Telegraph
Dailymail
The Independent
The BBC

All this focus is the result of several very high-profile cases that are in-process or just completed.

But don't let the reality of Media-sensationalism ruin what I'm sure is a very factual presentation regarding how we should return to segregation and fear because 'multiculturlism doesn't work'.

Just stop posting, please. I'd rather have the birthers and truthers back with Lemon Law going full bore. They're far better reasoned then you, which is scary.


No insults or personal attacks.

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This is what I have been saying all along yet people call me a racist:confused:

Reality tends to be racist like that. After finding that the best marathon runners in the world were mostly from Kenya (and sometimes Hawaii), UK police have demanded that Mother Nature be brought to justice. By that they mean they'll give her a slap on the wrist and she'll be back on the streets promoting racism within a few hours.
 

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In case anyone wants to read an ACTUAL article rather than the knee-jerk drivel that Incorruptible posts, here's a major British media outlet (The Guardian) doing an in-depth article on the problem almost two full weeks before his article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/08/asian-sex-gangs-on-street-grooming

Oh, and every single major news outlet also had articles on it, all at the same time:

The Commentator
The Telegraph
Dailymail
The Independent
The BBC

All this focus is the result of several very high-profile cases that are in-process or just completed.

But don't let the reality of Media-sensationalism ruin what I'm sure is a very factual presentation regarding how we should return to segregation and fear because 'multiculturlism doesn't work'.

Just stop posting, please. I'd rather have the birthers and truthers back with Lemon Law going full bore. They're far better reasoned then you, which is scary.

Taking things with a grain of salt invariably proves a good idea. What I don't understand is the use of "Asian". That may be geographically correct but even from that context it's so broad as to be useless. Applied for a cultural purpose? Might as well say "from earth" for all the information it gives. Strangely unhelpful.
 
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Reality tends to be racist like that. After finding that the best marathon runners in the world were mostly from Kenya (and sometimes Hawaii), UK police have demanded that Mother Nature be brought to justice. By that they mean they'll give her a slap on the wrist and she'll be back on the streets promoting racism within a few hours.

Agreed completely with you, there are plenty of white people who are good marathon runners but there are many black marathon runners who are better, this isn't racist yet because race is involved people consider it as racist.
 

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Egypt is part of Africa ;)

True, but in my experience Egypt has been mostly referred to as Egypt recently. I know that traditionally it has been part of the "Middle East" (hell, Libya was arguably part of the "Middle East" at one point even though it's clearly North Africa). I guess it's one of those gray area countries that maybe is 'leaving' the Middle East in our vernacular, like Turkey (which is now Eastern Europe I guess). Recently "Middle East" has really referred to Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar (the "arab" countries). Hell, even Israel/Palestine seems to ebb and flow as to its inclusion.
 
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True, but in my experience Egypt has been mostly referred to as Egypt recently. I know that traditionally it has been part of the "Middle East" (hell, Libya was arguably part of the "Middle East" at one point even though it's clearly North Africa). I guess it's one of those gray area countries that maybe is 'leaving' the Middle East in our vernacular, like Turkey (which is now Eastern Europe I guess). Recently "Middle East" has really referred to Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar (the "arab" countries). Hell, even Israel/Palestine seems to ebb and flow as to its inclusion.
The Middle East refers to a region, not a continent. It's like Central America; just because Nicaragua is in Central America doesn't mean it's not also part of the continent of North America. Sometimes regions cross over continental boundaries, as with the Middle East or Latin America.
 

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...knee-jerk drivel that Incorruptible posts...

In general I agree, but they say even a blind squirrel eventually finds a nut, and it appears he's stumbled onto his. This does appear to be a pretty clear-cut case of a very specific ethnic group mostly being responsible for a crime spree, but society using a more "neutral-sounding" generic adjective to avoid "offending anyone". Sorry, but the piece you linked to made a very weak argument, not even really denying the reality that this is not about "Asians" but about a specific subgroup of them, but trying meekly to get everyone to look the other way.
 

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... and bow ties. Bow ties are cool.


But yes, even a broken (analog) clock is right twice a day. Calling a Muslim gang "Asians" so as not to offend Muslims is an unhelpful excess of political correctness.
 
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In general I agree, but they say even a blind squirrel eventually finds a nut, and it appears he's stumbled onto his. This does appear to be a pretty clear-cut case of a very specific ethnic group mostly being responsible for a crime spree, but society using a more "neutral-sounding" generic adjective to avoid "offending anyone". Sorry, but the piece you linked to made a very weak argument, not even really denying the reality that this is not about "Asians" but about a specific subgroup of them, but trying meekly to get everyone to look the other way.

Firstly I was right on the other issues and I am not crazy, but this is exactly what I have been warning about all along. It is grossly unfair for Hindus and Sikhs to be lumped in with the rape gangs as well if the rape gangs were white would the same general term to be used like this case, it wouldn't.
 

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... and bow ties. Bow ties are cool.


But yes, even a broken (analog) clock is right twice a day. Calling a Muslim gang "Asians" so as not to offend Muslims is an unhelpful excess of political correctness.

One word. Fez.
 

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If Russia is in Asia, why are they playing in the Euro Cup this year... these race issues need answers now!
 
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In case anyone wants to read an ACTUAL article rather than the knee-jerk drivel that Incorruptible posts, here's a major British media outlet (The Guardian) doing an in-depth article on the problem almost two full weeks before his article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/08/asian-sex-gangs-on-street-grooming

Oh, and every single major news outlet also had articles on it, all at the same time:

The Commentator
The Telegraph
Dailymail
The Independent
The BBC

All this focus is the result of several very high-profile cases that are in-process or just completed.

But don't let the reality of Media-sensationalism ruin what I'm sure is a very factual presentation regarding how we should return to segregation and fear because 'multiculturlism doesn't work'.

Just stop posting, please. I'd rather have the birthers and truthers back with Lemon Law going full bore. They're far better reasoned then you, which is scary.


No insults or personal attacks.

Administrator Idontcare

That article constantly refers to them as Asian which is my whole point, they shouldn't be referred to as Asian because its not fair to Hindus/Sikhs and other Asians. These muslim rape gangs have a deep disrespect for non muslim women and people refuse to address the issue. They are a minority in Britain yet commit a huge amount of the crime, something is wrong here.

Political correctness has run amok and multiculturalism is a failure.
 

nehalem256

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Technically you could call Israelis Asians. But I think it would be pretty laughable if that happened.
 

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A year or more ago there was a topic dealing with race and I posted a rather long answer about how terms like "asian" are meaningless in the truest sense. ~99% of Russia is in Asia. India is in Asia. The Middle East is in Asia. Thus they are all truly asian. I was born in North America, as were my parents, and their parents, and their parents, and their parents, and their parents. I am, for all intents and purposes, a native American, yet I am not a Native American. And so on. It's all just stupid.


You ARE a Native American - you just might not be a Native American Indian. Therein lies the difference.
 

cybrsage

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If Russia is in Asia, why are they playing in the Euro Cup this year... these race issues need answers now!


For the same reason there are several members of NATO which do not touch the North Atlantic at all. Politics.