Uh-oh. Updated drivers, now "Code 43", stuck on MS Basic Display driver.

[VirtualLarry]

Can someone point out some suggestions?

I was running 16.11.4, on an RX 460 4GB Nitro card, that had it's shaders unlocked via BIOS mode.

I tried to install 16.12.1, and it said it installed. I clicked "restart later", and then restarted manually.

Waterfox gave an app exception error when shutting down, and then upon restart, was stuck in low-res screen.

Windows will only let me go up to 1360x768, no higher. I'm on a 4K display.

Attempting to open Radeon settings, brings up a message, that no AMD video card / drivers are detected.

I've attempted to install 16.12.2 as well, but that seemed to only want to re-install the driver that was already on there that failed.

I'm running Win10 64-bit 1607, with an i5-6400 overclocked a bit.

I never had issues with re-starting with my original drivers on there, after doing the shader unlock.

Could AMD have had a "poison pill" in their drivers, that detected and disabled shader-unlocked cards? Would AMD actively try to destroy hardware like that?

 

[VirtualLarry]

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Clean-Uninstall-Utility.aspx

Wow, this is really freaking hosed. I wonder if my attempt to upgrade the drivers, killed my card or something.

I ran the program that you can download from the above link, to clean out your AMD drivers. Then I tried re-installing 16.12.2.

Still, no-go. Can't get my 4K screen to detect anything above 1360x768.

Trying to launch Radeon settings, says "No AMD card detected".

 

[kraatus77]

Use DDU and clean previous driver in safemode.

also restore back your original bios. unlocking shaders is risky and not officially supported and you shouldn't blame this issue on drivers.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yeah, I had to flash my backup BIOS image back to the card. Strange. I know for a fact that the problem wasn't that the shaders were defective; I was running Folding@Home on the card for a week, no errors.

Guess AMD is getting vindictive. Might have to switch to NV.

 

[Valantar]

The Crimson ReLive drivers require a digitally signed BIOS to work. This was mentioned all over the place (both in forum posts and on various news sites) when the der8auer mod came out. So you'll have to choose - extra shaders or up-to-date drivers. I'd go for drivers, personally.

 

[kraatus77]

Your logic is beyond me.

"i want 4 pizzas so gimme 4 pizzas, don't gimme only 2 pizzas instead i'll stay hungry."

seriously, first you run your card for F@H, means huge and constant load. second you go out of spec and unlock shaders and flash moded bios, than you complain you are getting issues. and amd is the problem here ?

seriously ? this is why said in other thread, you people actually don't deserve amd and you should be milked by nv/int. no matter how much amd gives for free you guys always want more. suddenly everything changes when you switch camps, even your thinking.

 

[VirtualLarry]

seriously, first you run your card for F@H, means huge and constant load.

And? If I want to run my card under 100% load for hours / days / months at a time, that's my perogative. If it can't handle it, then it is poorly engineered, and IMHO defective by design. People use GPUs for more than just gaming these days, y'know. Thankfully, Sapphire and AMD did a good job here, the Nitro card holds up, and only hits 75C.

second you go out of spec and unlock shaders and flash moded bios, than you complain you are getting issues. and amd is the problem here ?

Yes, they are the problem, if they get vindictive, and prevent people from BIOS-modding their cards, and still getting drivers. You don't think that there was an uproar when Nvidia locked out overclocking for laptop GPUs? Or an uproar, when Intel started clamping down on non-Z overclocking with the G3258 and H81 boards? AMD is no better than NVidia or Intel here.

seriously ? this is why said in other thread, you people actually don't deserve amd and you should be milked by nv/int. no matter how much amd gives for free you guys always want more. suddenly everything changes when you switch camps, even your thinking.

"Don't deserve"? "how much AMD gives for free"?

What has AMD given me for free? I paid for my card. AMD crippled it so that not all the entirety of the shader processors are usable. Some bright fellow figured out how to un-cripple my hardware, and AMD wants to force it to be crippled.

So, AMD gave me a "free crippling" for my hardware. I should thank them for that? Some people are waaay too "Red Team goggled".

 

[kraatus77]

Free 128 shaders which was never promised and you knew before buying. it wasn't crippled that's how they make different gpus for different price points. crippling would be similar to taking something away which was promised and available officially when you bought it. but now doesn't.

intel/nvidia never give you that. and i own only nvidia gpus because 3dvision soo much for "Red Team goggled".


and nice job with selective quote. just proves you lost the argument.

 

[VirtualLarry]

. and i own only nvidia gpus because 3dvision soo much for "Red Team goggled".

Ok, so perhaps I was wrong there. I apologize.

 

[stahlhart]

Free 128 shaders which was never promised and you knew before buying. it wasn't crippled that's how they make different gpus for different price points. crippling would be similar to taking something away which was promised and available officially when you bought it. but now doesn't.

intel/nvidia never give you that. and i own only nvidia gpus because 3dvision soo much for "Red Team goggled".


and nice job with selective quote. just proves you lost the argument.

Enjoy your week off from posting here, jerk.
-- stahlhart

 

[stahlhart]

Now would someone else who doesn't wear their brand affiliation on their sleeve as much as kraatus77 please offer Larry some assistance? kthxbye.
-- stahlhart

 

[VirtualLarry]

Actually, you can close this thread. The correct answer was posted in the BIOS unlocking thread.

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...der8auer-strikes-again.2494413/#post-38649173

It seems that AMD indeed HAS implemented a lock-out feature, that if you have a modded BIOS on your card, that you can NO LONGER use newer drivers. IOW, a kernel-mode BIOS signature enforcement.

The page linked in the above response, has some complicated instructions on how to hack the newer drivers to work with a modded card, but it looks like too much trouble for me.

I guess I'm just going to keep my original BIOS on there.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The Crimson ReLive drivers require a digitally signed BIOS to work. This was mentioned all over the place (both in forum posts and on various news sites) when the der8auer mod came out. So you'll have to choose - extra shaders or up-to-date drivers. I'd go for drivers, personally.

Yeah, I must have managed to have missed that news, that newer drivers were enforcing the BIOS signature.

This whole scenario reminds me of how Windows 10's inclusion of a microcode update patch, caused people's PCs that had been using G3258 CPUs overclocked on H81 motherboards, successfully, on Windows 7, to BSOD or otherwise not function properly once they updated to Win10.

 

[stahlhart]

The vendor-specific subforums are appropriate for technical support, and a measured (and understandable) amount of frustration in the process of attempting to get an issue resolved doesn't deserve that kind of retaliation. Thread closed.
-- stahlhart