UGH the anti-drug BS is annoying.

[waggy]

cnn link
SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A California woman whose doctor says marijuana is the only medicine keeping her alive is not immune from federal prosecution on drug charges, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.

The case was brought by Angel Raich, an Oakland mother of two who suffers from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and other ailments. On her doctor's advice, she eats or smokes marijuana every couple of hours to ease her pain and bolster a nonexistent appetite as conventional drugs did not work.

The Supreme Court ruled against Raich two years ago, saying that medical marijuana users and their suppliers could be prosecuted for breaching federal drug laws even if they lived in a state such as California where medical pot is legal.

Because of that ruling, the issue before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was narrowed to the so-called right to life theory: that marijuana should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive.

Raich, 41, began sobbing when she was told of the decision and said she would continue using the drug.

"I'm sure not going to let them kill me," she said. "Oh my God."

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This




Ok i fully against drugs. I have no problem locking up someone who commites a crime for crack/herione etc for life or hell shooting dealers on the spot.

BUT Marijuana has legit medical uses. It blows my mnd they wont let this lady use the MJ to help control pain and appitite. It can't be any worse then shoving opoids down.

it really disgust me.

 

[effowe]

This country has long been against anything pro-marijuana, no matter how many studies show that it has medical and other uses (paper, rope, fabric, etc.) The government could be making a killing off of taxing it like any controlled substance, but the old (untrue) stigma remains, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: effowe
This country has long been against anything pro-marijuana, no matter how many studies show that it has medical and other uses (paper, rope, fabric, etc.) The government could be making a killing off of taxing it like any controlled substance, but the old (untrue) stigma remains, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.

I don't either.

and its rather sad.

 

[shocksyde]

The best part is it was originally outlawed due to white men afraid black (or was it mexican?) men were using Marijuana to drug and seduce their women.

 

[Excelsior]

I have a question...what if a girl suffering from anorexia (not the medical condition, but the psychological "I look fat" one) were to smoke mj? Would she just start eating or would she turn bulimic?

 

[JS80]

have they not invented THC pills yet?

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I have a question...what if a girl suffering from anorexia (not the medical condition, but the psychological "I look fat" one) were to smoke mj? Would she just start eating or would she turn bulimic?

Anorexia has psychological roots, so just having an appetite wouldn't cure it. She'd either remain anorexic or become bulimic.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: shocksyde
The best part is it was originally outlawed due to white men afraid black (or was it mexican?) men were using Marijuana to drug and seduce their women.

hmm i seem to recall reading it was outlawed because one of hte huge land owners wanted to sell his trees to the govermnt to be made into paper etc. BUT the goverment was looking at hemp as well.

where hemp is cheap and easy to replace. So the rich guy had friends in teh goverment to make MJ (and hemp) outlawed.

 

[effowe]

Originally posted by: shocksyde
The best part is it was originally outlawed due to white men afraid black (or was it mexican?) men were using Marijuana to drug and seduce their women.

It was the mexicans and black jazz musicians. Here's an article I found quickly that explains some of it..

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I have a question...what if a girl suffering from anorexia (not the medical condition, but the psychological "I look fat" one) were to smoke mj? Would she just start eating or would she turn bulimic?

Anorexia has psychological roots, so just having an appetite wouldn't cure it. She'd either remain anorexic or become bulimic.

Well medically speaking, just the term Anorexia means "Loss of appetite, especially as a result of disease." but I am really talking about Anorexia nervosa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_nervosa

You're right though, they'd probably become bulimic.

 

[effowe]

Originally posted by: JS80
have they not invented THC pills yet?

They pretty much have: Marinol

 

[Excelsior]

Apparently it has been tried:

Anorexia Nervosa and Medication

Despite what many think, anorexia nervosa has so far been shown to be relatively resistant to treatment with drugs. Many medicines have been tried for various reasons, with a report here and there about the effectiveness of a certain medicine in certain cases, but overall none has been shown in controlled studies to have any particular effectiveness with the core issues of anorexia nervosa. Even tetrahydrocannabinol (marijuana) was clinically tried in hopes of stimulating appetite (causing the "munchies") but it produced only unhappy moods instead.

http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Eating_Disorders/medication_1a.asp

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: effowe

Originally posted by: shocksyde
The best part is it was originally outlawed due to white men afraid black (or was it mexican?) men were using Marijuana to drug and seduce their women.

It was the mexicans and black jazz musicians. Here's an article I found quickly that explains some of it..

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

hmm guess iw as wrong. MY GOD A FIRST! :shocked: haha yeah.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: effowe

Originally posted by: JS80
have they not invented THC pills yet?

They pretty much have: Marinol

The problem is that patients have reported they don't work as well as the real thing.

Part of the reason is that THC is only one of the cannaboids, each contributing some to the total effect.

If the government would allow more testing, I'm sure a better version of marinol can be developed.

 

[k1pp3r]

This news clip does not say that the supplier was a legal source, they have pill form also. There are other illegal drugs that have medical uses, however they are more controlled. While MJ has no long term effect (short term, well makes you look kinda stupid, and eat) the US still has a huge problem seeing the good it can do because of all the bad they "THINK" it has caused. If the perscription is legit, and the source is legal also, courts should stay out of it.

 

[Kadarin]

The government attitude against marijuana defies common sense in many cases. This is one such case.

 

[DarkKnight69]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: shocksyde
The best part is it was originally outlawed due to white men afraid black (or was it mexican?) men were using Marijuana to drug and seduce their women.

hmm i seem to recall reading it was outlawed because one of hte huge land owners wanted to sell his trees to the govermnt to be made into paper etc. BUT the goverment was looking at hemp as well.

where hemp is cheap and easy to replace. So the rich guy had friends in teh goverment to make MJ (and hemp) outlawed.

According to IMAX: History of Marijuana, it was outlawed because Mexicans used it to calm themselves after work or before combat. They saw it as a insanity indusing drug...

 

[mugs]

Out of curiosity - what is her ailment that would kill her without the intervention of marijuana?
Edit: Whoops, skimmed the article. How is marijuana keeping her alive though? It eases her pain and makes her hungry, but that hardly seems like keeping her alive.

(FWIW I think she should be allowed to use it and her court case shouldn't have had to come down to a matter of life or death (with death winning :Q ), I'm just curious)

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: DarkKnight69

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: shocksyde
The best part is it was originally outlawed due to white men afraid black (or was it mexican?) men were using Marijuana to drug and seduce their women.

hmm i seem to recall reading it was outlawed because one of hte huge land owners wanted to sell his trees to the govermnt to be made into paper etc. BUT the goverment was looking at hemp as well.

where hemp is cheap and easy to replace. So the rich guy had friends in teh goverment to make MJ (and hemp) outlawed.

According to IMAX: History of Marijuana, it was outlawed because Mexicans used it to calm themselves after work or before combat. They saw it as a insanity indusing drug...

yeah see the post effowe posted.

 

[Mr Incognito]

It's also illegal because of companies in the early 20th century such as Cotton (Hemp wears much longer, and can be just as soft, they even found out how to make hemp waterproof) and DuPont who didn't want it to cut in on profits. And we all know America (especially at that time) sold out to the highest bidder.

To this specific point, this is just plain ****** up. They are going to have her get hopped up on opiates when they have been proven not to work for her. Maybe someday we will have people actually look at the facts.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
It's also illegal because of companies in the early 20th century such as Cotton (Hemp wears much longer, and can be just as soft, they even found out how to make hemp waterproof) and DuPont who didn't want it to cut in on profits. And we all know America (especially at that time) sold out to the highest bidder.

To this specific point, this is just plain ****** up. They are going to have her get hopped up on opiates when they have been proven not to work for her. Maybe someday we will have people actually look at the facts.

My understanding is that William Randolph Hearst had a big part in it. He owned a lot of timber land, and he owned a lot of newspapers. He used the papers to give marijuana a bad reputation (and associate it with Mexicans).

 

[MrPickins]

What's funny is that after explaining everything that can be produced from hemp, and the benefits it could have, I even convinced my 85 year old grandmother that it should be legal.

The information just needs to be more in the public eye...

 

[nakedfrog]

But... but... the president said it's always better to err on the side of life!

 

[Mr Incognito]

Ah yes Mugs, that was just from memory so I was sure I was missing something.

http://www.bioregional.com/programme_pr...es_prog/hemp%20textiles/hemp_stats.htm
(wish I had a better link but here it goes)

The environmental benefits of textile, paper and oil production from hemp have been tested in academic research. A study carried out by the University of Melbourne found that hemp production for textiles, oilseed and paper as an alternative to cotton textiles, oil and forestry would increase economic efficiency whilst reducing the ecological footprint of production of these goods by up to 50%.

Ok, even if that is a little bit of an exageration even a 10% reduction in our enviormental footprint, think about how much we can help our planet.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: effowe

Originally posted by: shocksyde
The best part is it was originally outlawed due to white men afraid black (or was it mexican?) men were using Marijuana to drug and seduce their women.

It was the mexicans and black jazz musicians. Here's an article I found quickly that explains some of it..

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

hmm guess iw as wrong. MY GOD A FIRST! :shocked: haha yeah.

How does it feel?