UGH, stupid MSI G965M-FI detects and disallows E4300 pad mod!

GnatGoSplat

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I performed the E4300 pad mod on my CPU not once, but 3 times thinking I didn't do it right since my MSI G965M-FI motherboard kept wanting to boot at 200x9. Just on a whim, I decided to try clearing CMOS and discovered the reason. The POST screen says:

4300 @ 1.80GHz ,Speed: 267x9

A 200MHz system bus processor is installed. This processor is not supported on this system board, and will run at reduced processor clock speed. System performance will be impacted.

Do you wish to continue to boot at 267MHz system bus and reduced processor speed? (Y/N)

Press Y to continue or press N to shutdown.

If I press Y, it takes me to BIOS. When I exit BIOS, it reboots at 200x9. If I press N, it says to power off the computer.

I don't see what MSI has to lose by allowing me to run my CPU at 266x9 if I want to!
Anyone know a way around this?
 

VirtualLarry

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That's got to be the lamest thing that I've ever seen - BIOS level anti-overclocking.

Btw, this has all the makings of a story for L'Inq, etc. Do submit it.

 

GnatGoSplat

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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is L'Inq? Google tells me that's The Inquirer, is that right?

Yeah, I found a sticky on the MSI user forums that explains most newer MSI motherboards have this anti-overclocking "feature" in BIOS preventing one of the most popular and simple overclocks oft he E4300:

Original thread: http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=105483.0

2- The current MSI family of motherboards DOES NOT work on any other strap than 800 (200 FSB) for the E4300 processor, this means, plain simple, no more than 265 FSB overclock, we are reaching the limit of the Chipset on that strap. A change to 1066 (266) is required for this processor to overclock as it should.
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4- The majority of the MB makers implement a strap detection base on the BSEL state of the pins, the combination of High-Low on these pins tells the motherboard which strap to choose on startup. for THIS series of motherboads, the BSEL detection is useless, since the motherboard configures the strap based on the processor model instead of the bsel pins (totally akward to me) hence, even if you change the strap on the pin level, the motherboard may had already boot up using the strap based on the model and FORCE the FSB then, based on the pin (totally useless) since you will get a freeze on the system, for that reason, read the point 5.

5- DO NO, I repeat DO NOT pin mod any processor on this motherboard, is totally useless.

So, our requirements for MSI are pretty simple, GIVE US the correct 1066Mhz strap for E4300 once they reach 266FSB consecuently putting this motherboard in the same category of the rest, since there are also pretty basic 3 times more cheap motherboads that can easily reach 3ghz with a 1333 pin mod (motherboards with no overclocking options) this is really a shame for motherboards of this category.

DISABLE the freakking model routine detection, does not help the community and in fact, impedes them to tweak their systems as they want and since the rest of the MB makers just use the BSEL state to set the strap, this routine is more than UNNECESARY.

DISABLE the stated message of "This is a 200Mhz processor, the current speed is not supported..." we don't need this kind of warnings on a High End motherboard.

BIOS-level anti-overclocking via model detection. What a bunch of BS. Last MSI motherboard I ever buy!