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Ugh...I have to take my kids to Math lab today.

Medellon

Senior member
I actually enjoy Mondays but it is also the day that my 7th grade students go to Math lab which I dislike. I know kids need to be exposed to technology but sitting at a computer answering multiple choice or fill in the blank questions is not my idea of using technology, they can just as easily do that on a piece of paper sitting in the classroom. Unfortunately the school will not spend the money to upgrade the sometimes 10 year old programs but will buy new computers at the drop of a hat. I have told administration and Math department heads that we need newer and better programs for the students but they always seem to drag their feet.

I actually stopped going because I find little value in it for the kids and the period that is lost can be better utilized in the classroom where I'm teaching and the kids are learning. I was "scolded" by the department head with the old adage, "If we don't use it, we'll lose it." I said I don't really care if we lose it since I don't use it anyway and find little value in it. Well, I and a couple other teachers were basically told by administration that we must start going and if we could suggest some programs the school could purchase. I have suggested several and of course no action has been taken. How was math lab utilized when you were in school?
 
I dunno Medellon,

Though its likely that the instructor wont' make the class very challenging for bright kids.
You can certainly encourage them by showing them little BASIC programs that iterate through
sums or factorials or long division to teach simple cs and math concepts
(integration, differentiation, recursion, iteration, looping etc..).

Just because the compters aren't the latest or the software istn' the newest doesn't mean
there's nothing there to learn, i realize you know this and its probably the lack of creativity of
the cirriculum that's to blame, but just a thought, you really do learn more and concepts are better
reinforced by doing coding assignments and playing around with various programs than any tutorial
based learning suite.

Just my experiences though,

cheers dM
 
Well, I remember the only time ever doing anything like you describe being on the Apple IIgs lab in 1st grade back in 1993. Once they moved to Macs in '94 and Power Macs when they emerged ('96?) that stuff never happened anymore for anybody. To this day I'm working on acquiring one of those IIgs units and the networked storage (with the software still loaded) - they're EVERYWHERE, all over the damned county, but none of my contacts can manage to make one dissapear.
 
K-4th/5th: Apple IIe.
4th/5th-6th: 386 machines, most built by my dad,
7,8: POS HP and Gateways running Win9x.
9-10/11th: POS HP and gateqays running Win9x.
College: Most are fine, but they f*cked up on the caffeteria ones...such that two are unusable because somebody screwed stuff up, and you don't have permission to do much of anything (luckily there's a loophole I found, and managed to get Firebird on them).
For some screwed up reason, my Comp Sci class is using Win95A.
Go figure that one out.

But um...I have a calculator thanks to LSXCommand. Aside from that, math and computers are generally separate.
 
I strong suggest, as a few people have jokingly said, to introduce kids to MatLab. I realize that my point of viewis skewed because I am a college math/cs/soft e major, but it wouldn't be hard at all to get the kids using basic addition, subtraction, etc on it, and you could go up to declaring functions, etc. If any of these kids are going on to be CS, Math, or Engineering majors, they WILL be using matlab at some point, so this isn't wasted effort...
 
i never used math software (matlab and maple) until i got into university.

infact, when i was in grade 7 we had these ancient macs that we just did desktop publishing on.
 
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