UFC fighters took on Marine Corps martial-arts experts, who will win? video inside

[JSt0rm]

There are lots of mma moves that will break bones very quickly. Inf act sometimes bones get broken.

 

[Michael]

Jaye is a long time personal friend of mine. I have known Andre for a long time too. The ACL is reasonably safe because the equipment worn. Usual injuries are some form of helmet failure resulting in a cut from your head impacting the steel of your own helmet or broken bones/joint sprains.

I have been fighting in armor for over 30 years and never had a serious injury.

I have gone to full contact black belt camps to do a demo. Weapons, especially when you are wearing armor (flak jackets in the video), are completely dominant against unarmed opponents most times assuming some training by the person with the weapon.

Michael

 

[emperus]

Military Propaganda.

 

[Ackmed]

marines are better at being marines

mma fighters are better at being mma fighters

shocking

This is basically it. I am a black belt in MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program), have been since 2010, and we use a ton of weapons. Not as many as used to be, this is an old piece. Some weapons have been taken out of training. Throwing weapons into a MMA fighters hands and expecting them to instantly be good at it is silly. This piece was a feel good piece in my opinion.

That being said, MCMAP is no joke though, and ultimately it comes down to the fighter. Most MMA fighters are just that, fighters. That is their full time job. That is not the case for Marines. They have their MOS, then MCMAP is separate. There is no career long MCMAP Marine. Every Marine has to be a Tan belt, which is the lowest of five. Every combat MOS Marine is supposed to be at least a Green, which is the 3rd.

Training in MCMAP can be fun. We would sit on the ground back to back, whistle would blow and we would go at it. Or bull in the ring, see how long you can last. With so much testosterone and pride it can get carried away though. One way to find out what kind of shape you're in, is fighting. You can be completely wasted in 2 minutes. I can honestly say the toughest two weeks in my life (physically) was for MAI, which is the instructor course of MCMAP. They come as close to killing you as possible. The PT is tremendously hard, I can't even explain. You fight all day every day. You get hurt, everyone gets hurt. I seriously couldn't even lift my arms the last day for our final test. I was fucking miserable. But I got that damn red tab on my belt!

 

[BoberFett]

Nowadays UFC fighters train to win using specific tactics that are useful given a set of rules. I wonder how this would have gone against the original ultimate fighters? Back then, those guys were pure street brawlers who organized a no-holds barred (except biting or eye shots) fight.

 

[z1ggy]

Nowadays UFC fighters train to win using specific tactics that are useful given a set of rules. I wonder how this would have gone against the original ultimate fighters? Back then, those guys were pure street brawlers who got organized a no-holds barred (except biting or eye shots) fight.

This. Put in a UFC pro vs a top notch Krav Maga Black Belt in a no rules, anything goes fight... and see who wins.

This is basically that, except a marine instead of Massad, etc. I'm not too surprised.

 

[HumblePie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Stann

Marine and former MMA fighter. He did win the WEC LHW belt many years ago.

I stand corrected on one marine getting a title... but even if you read the story he had to take time off from the Marines to train for UFC fighting. Had he walked straight out of one and into the other he wouldn't have done well.

 

[HumblePie]

Jaye is a long time personal friend of mine. I have known Andre for a long time too. The ACL is reasonably safe because the equipment worn. Usual injuries are some form of helmet failure resulting in a cut from your head impacting the steel of your own helmet or broken bones/joint sprains.

I have been fighting in armor for over 30 years and never had a serious injury.

I have gone to full contact black belt camps to do a demo. Weapons, especially when you are wearing armor (flak jackets in the video), are completely dominant against unarmed opponents most times assuming some training by the person with the weapon.

Michael

I haven't done the steel combat myself, but did a few years with SCA using rattan. That still hurts through the armor, but with SCA you can wear less of it. At least when I was doing it, the only thing mandatory was helmet, gauntlets, elbow, knees, and throat protections. Of course most people were more than that for protection. Because getting smacked full strength with a rattan stick in your ribs could crack them even if you weren't required to were protection there.

Funny thing is though I did the practice, I never "joined" them, but my friend was in it. He just dragged my ass along to all the practices they held every week and tried to get me to join. Just liked the practices and no one but him really pushed me to do much more than that. Was fun though.

The full steel combat people would be just wearing more protection and should be alright barring equipment failure.

 

[Michael]

I am Sir Myrdin in the SCA.

I have not done the steel fighting but quite a few of my friends have tried it. Jaye is in New Hampshire and I am in California so hard for me to get to his place and try it.

Michael

 

[Triumph]

Shouldn't they re-title this, "UFC Fighter vs. 2 Marines Holding Weapons - Who Will Win?"

 

[tynopik]

Nowadays UFC fighters train to win using specific tactics that are useful given a set of rules. I wonder how this would have gone against the original ultimate fighters? Back then, those guys were pure street brawlers who organized a no-holds barred (except biting or eye shots) fight.

today's UFC fighters without a doubt

they are more athletic and know so much more about the art

the things that have been cut out from the current ufc (kicks to the head of a downed opponent) are easy enough for a fighter to do if allowed

 

[preslove]

Anyone with half a brain would come to the following conclusion:

the MMA fighters were not going against normal marines either. From what I understood they were going against trainers. so you have highly skilled marines in a setting that marines train for and MMA fighters who are trained in a different skill set with different rules not really a surprise who won.

Now you drop those marines into a MMA cage and it's a different story.