UCLA Report Names New York Schools as Nation's most Racially Segregated

[unokitty]

New York State’s Extreme School Segregation: Inequality, Inaction and a Damaged Future

New York has the most segregated schools in the country: in 2009, black and Latino students in the state had the highest concentration in intensely-segregated public schools (less than 10% white enrollment), the lowest exposure to white students, and the most uneven distribution with white students across schools. Heavily impacting these state rankings is New York City, home to the largest and one of the most segregated public school systems in the nation...

the study notes that many of the charter schools created over the last dozen years are among the least diverse of all, with less than 1 percent white enrollment at 73 percent of charter schools.

"To create a whole new system that's even worse than what you've got really takes some effort," said Gary Orfield, co-director of the Civil Rights Project and an author of the report...

Other states with highly segregated schools include Illinois, Michigan and California, according to the Civil Rights Project.

"In the 30 years I have been researching schools, New York state has consistently been one of the most segregated states in the nation — no Southern state comes close to New York," Orfield said...

The report, which used U.S. Department of Education statistics, also noted increasing segregation in upstate cities including Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse.

Study based on enrolment trends from 1989 to 2010.

Normally, I wouldn't expect liberalism and segregation to coexist. But the UCLA study indicates that in New York it does.

Anyone else surprised?

For some reason, I didn't expect liberalism and segregation to coexist for such an extended period.

Uno

 

[fskimospy]

How is this not common knowledge? New York City is one of the most segregated cities in the country. Hence, its schools are among the most segregated.

In addition to the census district level segregation you also have the fact that most of the white people in NYC are so wealthy that they send their kids to private school, which obviously skews the numbers further.

 

[Wreckem]

New York State’s Extreme School Segregation: Inequality, Inaction and a Damaged Future
Study based on enrolment trends from 1989 to 2010.

Normally, I wouldn't expect liberalism and segregation to coexist. But the UCLA study indicates that in New York it does.

Anyone else surprised?

For some reason, I didn't expect liberalism and segregation to coexist for such an extended period.

Uno

Ever hear of white flight? Its real. So is black flight(fleeing increasing hispanic populations).

Self segregation along socioeconomic lines happens in every urban area of the country. It just so happens the poor in urban areas are overwhelmingly black and hispanic.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Ever hear of white flight? Its real. So is black flight(fleeing increasing hispanic populations).

Self segregation along socioeconomic lines happens in every urban area of the country. It just so happens the poor in urban areas are overwhelmingly black and hispanic.

I suspect this is true in all the US's large cities. Many of my neighbors (all races) moved away from Houston.

 

[Jaskalas]

New York State’s Extreme School Segregation: Inequality, Inaction and a Damaged Future
Study based on enrolment trends from 1989 to 2010.

Normally, I wouldn't expect liberalism and segregation to coexist. But the UCLA study indicates that in New York it does.

Anyone else surprised?

For some reason, I didn't expect liberalism and segregation to coexist for such an extended period.

Uno

If Geo were here he'd spell out an accurate portrayal of human nature. The explanation of which is apparently shocking to humans. Why do we not understand, because it's not PC to admit that the majority naturally segregate themselves?

This goes well beyond Republican or Democrat. America works hard to maintain its melting pot, and in the old days it was quite easy to integrate Europeans. Not so easy anymore when the Euros have all merged and its the more foreign populations we have yet to embrace.

Made harder still by a notion of multiculturalism. Embracing divisions will not enhance our unity. Nor will calling and identifying people as <something... something...> - American. The day people drop their former homeland is the day I call them kin.

Humans have endured tribalism since the dawn of time. It continues to be our nature and our struggle against it will be the legacy of the human race. Only in the modern era has it been possible to close the gap, make the world a smaller place, and begin the enduring process of integration. The more time we spend together the easier it will become, but the challenges ahead are still enormous.

 

[werepossum]

If Geo were here he'd spell out an accurate portrayal of human nature. The explanation of which is apparently shocking to humans. Why do we not understand, because it's not PC to admit that the majority naturally segregate themselves?

This goes well beyond Republican or Democrat. America works hard to maintain its melting pot, and in the old days it was quite easy to integrate Europeans. Not so easy anymore when the Euros have all merged and its the more foreign populations we have yet to embrace.

Made harder still by a notion of multiculturalism. Embracing divisions will not enhance our unity. Nor will calling and identifying people as <something... something...> - American. The day people drop their former homeland is the day I call them kin.

Humans have endured tribalism since the dawn of time. It continues to be our nature and our struggle against it will be the legacy of the human race. Only in the modern era has it been possible to close the gap, make the world a smaller place, and begin the enduring process of integration. The more time we spend together the easier it will become, but the challenges ahead are still enormous.

Well said, but I don't think white (or black) flight is based on skin color. People flee neighborhoods where the racial makeup has changed to the point of making them uncomfortable. You do not for example find whites fleeing wealthy neighborhoods in Atlanta as they become predominantly black because the core values are the same and the things that are tolerated do not materially change. When poorer neighborhoods become more black or more Hispanic or more Asian, they tend to tolerate, even encourage (e.g. snitches get stitches) levels of violence that wealthier neighborhoods would never tolerate, so those with the means tend to flee regardless of skin color. A majority black upper class neighborhood would never have dozens of people outside and not a one sees who shot who, for example. Other times it's the language. One might like Chinatown, yet not like living among people who speak a language you do not. Same with blacks fleeing Hispanics - they may have nothing against Hispanics, yet dislike living in a neighborhood where they cannot communicate with most of their neighbors. Or at least, cannot understand most of the conversation.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Its funny how the South gets so much shit rained down on them when places like New York (or California) are pretty awful when it comes to pervasive under the surface racism and segregation. The worse thing about the South is that you know who are the racists versus who are not because no one tries to hide behind the bullshit that is political correctness.

 

[fskimospy]

Its funny how the South gets so much shit rained down on them when places like New York (or California) are pretty awful when it comes to pervasive under the surface racism and segregation. The worse thing about the South is that you know who are the racists versus who are not because no one tries to hide behind the bullshit that is political correctness.

While any form of racism is bad, the south has tended to use the power of government to enforce it. That's where the reputation comes from.

 

[Incorruptible]

Not surprised at all, Won't be surprised to see liberals come up with excuses.

 

[Anarchist420]

I dont really care if it is segregated.

 

[JManInPhoenix]

Its funny how the South gets so much shit rained down on them when places like New York (or California) are pretty awful when it comes to pervasive under the surface racism and segregation. The worse thing about the South is that you know who are the racists versus who are not because no one tries to hide behind the bullshit that is political correctness.

Concur. I grew up mostly in the south and yes indeed, there are real racists there and they have no bones about showing it (some were in my extended family). Southern people are generally honest to a fault and this brings out the good, bad and the ugly. By the same token, if you are person of color and a white southerner is friendly toward you, they are genuinely a friendly person.

In my travels around the US, I have ran into some people that have a friendly veneer toward people of color but once the immediate scene is white only they have no problem letting the epithets fly.

 

[Zaap]

Its funny how the South gets so much shit rained down on them when places like New York (or California) are pretty awful when it comes to pervasive under the surface racism and segregation. The worse thing about the South is that you know who are the racists versus who are not because no one tries to hide behind the bullshit that is political correctness.

Left-leaning numbskulls always end up producing the exact opposite of whatever it is they are crowing on about.

If they crow on about "diversity?" Expect segregation and more racial tension.

If they crow on about the economy and McJobs? Hold on to your wallet, expect businesses to flee in droves taking their jobs with them, expect ONLY McJobs.

If they crow on about education? Expect the world's least-educated college "grads".

If they crow on about "free healthcare"? Expect the most expensive healthcare ever.

If they crow on about "hope, change"? Expect hopelessness and much much much more of the same.

If they crow on about "transparent government"? Expect the NSA to be spying on you.

If they crow on about "gun control"? Expect your chances of getting shot to go up.

 

[davmat787]

If Geo were here he'd spell out an accurate portrayal of human nature. The explanation of which is apparently shocking to humans. Why do we not understand, because it's not PC to admit that the majority naturally segregate themselves?

This goes well beyond Republican or Democrat. America works hard to maintain its melting pot, and in the old days it was quite easy to integrate Europeans. Not so easy anymore when the Euros have all merged and its the more foreign populations we have yet to embrace.

Made harder still by a notion of multiculturalism. Embracing divisions will not enhance our unity. Nor will calling and identifying people as <something... something...> - American. The day people drop their former homeland is the day I call them kin.

Humans have endured tribalism since the dawn of time. It continues to be our nature and our struggle against it will be the legacy of the human race. Only in the modern era has it been possible to close the gap, make the world a smaller place, and begin the enduring process of integration. The more time we spend together the easier it will become, but the challenges ahead are still enormous.

Exactly! Although I would not have chose the word endured as tribalism seems to off evolutionary advantages among others.

Once one understands tribalism and its place within the human condition, a whole hell of a lot of things all the sudden make sense.

 

[MagickMan]

States on the Left have worse problems with segregation and racism? You don't say?

 

[werepossum]

While any form of racism is bad, the south has tended to use the power of government to enforce it. That's where the reputation comes from.

Government racism is the very worst form of racism, and much of the south fought for years against equality. We deserve what flak we get there.

Concur. I grew up mostly in the south and yes indeed, there are real racists there and they have no bones about showing it (some were in my extended family). Southern people are generally honest to a fault and this brings out the good, bad and the ugly. By the same token, if you are person of color and a white southerner is friendly toward you, they are genuinely a friendly person.

In my travels around the US, I have ran into some people that have a friendly veneer toward people of color but once the immediate scene is white only they have no problem letting the epithets fly.

Someone wise once said that Southerners like black people individually but dislike them as a group. I've found that to often be true, even to the point of being an incredible contrast. I once worked with a shop foreman who was a full-fledged Klansman and would earnestly tell you that blacks were happier as slaves because blacks are unable to make good decisions and take care of themselves. Yet he had many black employees as welders and assemblers (the most crucial job in the shop), most of whom he had hired. The lead welder, who was also the man designated to test welding applicants and teach employees who wanted to learn welding and therefore move up in the pay scale due to his thorough knowledge, teaching ability, and patient personality, was a black man whom he himself had promoted. One cannot have such a logical disconnect without something being broken, and in many cases it's clinging to a history of insisting that blacks are inherently inferior subhumans (for otherwise their historic treatment would be unconscionable for any Christian or Jew) while living in a reality no longer skewed to support that premise. For those of us who grew up in an integrated world it's as bizarre a disconnect as any one is likely to find among otherwise functioning people.

At my age (I was pre-school when the Civil Rights Act was finally passed and so never experienced a segregated world) I really thank my parents for allowing none of that nonsense in our house, else it might be me trying to fit together such incompatible theory with reality.

 

[Svnla]

Did USSC Justice C. Thomas say he experienced the most racism in the North? Yup he did.

&#8220;The worst things that have been done to me, the worst things that have been said about me, [were] by northern liberal elites, not by the people of Savannah, Georgia,&#8221; he said, the Daily Mail reported.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/12/clarence-thomas-northern-liberal-elites-worse-segr/

 

[shortylickens]

I suspect this is true in all the US's large cities. Many of my neighbors (all races) moved away from Houston.

Its true of most large cities around the whole world, throughout history.

Poor folks are almost always a different race or religion than the rich folks, in a given area.

 

[Slew Foot]

If they crow on about "gun control"? Expect them to be selling weapons under the table to finance their campaigns.

FTFY

 

[unokitty]

Schools across America are resegregating...

In some of the nation's largest metropolitan areas, minorities attend what the study calls "apartheid" schools, where students of color make up 99 to 100 percent of the population...

It is a problem not just in the South. In New York a third of African-American students attend "apartheid" schools. In Chicago the number climbs to 50 percent, and 30 percent of Los Angeles' Latinos study in segregated schools...

Lead researcher Gary Orfield said the data wasn't surprising to him.

"Political leaders very rarely talk about this, and this has been going on since 1991," he said. "The most alarming thing to me is that this is double and triple segregation. It's never just segregation by ethnicity. It’s segregation by race, ethnicity and poverty and, in the case of Latinos, language as well."

UCLA study shows that Liberal Democratic states New York, Illinois, and California lead the nation in school segregation.

Understandable that the Liberal Democratic Politicians don't want to talk about this.

But just because they don't talk about it, doesn't mean that it isn't happening...

Uno

 

[Texashiker]

Sounds to me like the justice department needs to get involved and do some forced integration.

If busing students around was good enough for the south, it should be good enough for new york.

If forced integration was good enough for Vidor Texas in the 1990s, it should be good enough for new york. http://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/14/us/blacks-moved-to-texas-housing-project.html