Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 And Kubuntu Hoary 5.04 Released

Oct 20, 2004
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I just ordered my copies for free! Not too often Linux is distributed on CD for free, but they are right now. I ordered 3 64bit and 3 32bit.
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: miahallen
I just ordered my copies for free! Not too often Linux is distributed on CD for free, but they are right now. I ordered 3 64bit and 3 32bit.

do you honestly need 3 copies of each? :disgust: If everyone does this, then I can see why it's rarely offered for free on CD.

I can understand if you are on dial-up ordering ONE CD... but 3 of each!! That's ridiculous :|
 
Oct 20, 2004
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Hey, go to the site and check it out. They encourage you to order multiple copies. I'll only use one of each, the extras will be for friends and family. When you go to the order form the default quantity is 10! It costs them more for postage then copies, so they want to send out in bulk, then we assist in distribution.

What's your problem?
 

Steelerz37

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Originally posted by: miahallen
Hey, go to the site and check it out. They encourage you to order multiple copies. I'll only use one of each, the extras will be for friends and family. When you go to the order form the default quantity is 10! It costs them more for postage then copies, so they want to send out in bulk, then we assist in distribution.

What's your problem?

this is true..
yay Ubuntu :beer:

 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Just installed it, very slick. I'll soon be disabling 99% of the slick crap, but it is slick. :p Basically just using it as a more up-to-date debian, which it certainly is (python 2.4 :D).
 

Cobalt

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Originally posted by: MCrusty
Originally posted by: miahallen
I just ordered my copies for free! Not too often Linux is distributed on CD for free, but they are right now. I ordered 3 64bit and 3 32bit.

do you honestly need 3 copies of each? :disgust: If everyone does this, then I can see why it's rarely offered for free on CD.

I can understand if you are on dial-up ordering ONE CD... but 3 of each!! That's ridiculous :|

I ordered multiples because I plan to distribute them to friends. I ordered 4 32bit and 2 64bit. 1 32bit and 1 64bit for me an distribute the rest. Spread the joy of linux. :D
 

drag

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Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Just installed it, very slick. I'll soon be disabling 99% of the slick crap, but it is slick. :p Basically just using it as a more up-to-date debian, which it certainly is (python 2.4 :D).

Yep.

I have Debian on my system now.. but when I had Ubuntu it taught me all the nice stuff I could have. Basicly when spending time setting up my Debian 'Sid' I had to remember back to how Ubuntu was set up by default.

They do a good job of setting stuff up for laptops.

Yay for pbbuttons and kernel 2.6.11.5 (and newer, my custom kernel was a lot more stable then Debian's 2.6.11, unfortunately.). Now Ibook with linux sleeps and wakes up just as well as it does with OS X. Powernowd for CPU speed control, too. Nice stuff.

viva la Ubuntu, long live Debian.
 

hopejr

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I downloaded the PPC Live CD and successfully burnt it to a cd, but it won't boot on my iBook. Finder doesn't even mount it, but I put it into a Windows box and was able to navigate it. What could be the problem?
 

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i ordered 10x PPC, 10x i386, and 10x x86-64.

i work in a community run IT training facility so most of these copies will be ditributed to all and sundry from there.

i ordered on the 2nd March so i hope i get them pretty soon.
 

phisrow

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I'm running Hoary now, one niggling problem with the sound system, other than that I am well pleased. All the excellence that is Debian package management; less hassle with installation. My usual problem with OSS setups is the paralyzing(for an inexpert user like me) mixture of things that don't Just Work and things that do work; but are unintuitively named. Ubuntu gets things Just Working; but without all the weird custom tweaks that make a system impossible to administer later. Kudos to the devs on this one.
 

R3MF

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running the i386 version now.

looks lovely, yet i appear incapable of installing a working version of UT2k4 or getting skype to work at all.

it was never this complicated with suse.
 

WobbleWobble

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If I'm running the 5.04 pre-release version and always keep it up to date with Synaptic, is there any reason to update my installation?

And the version number 5.04 is the same as the latest pre-release version. Are they exactly the same or did they make more changes?
 

InlineFive

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Great, I'm thinking of toting a Live CD along with my other goodies in the computer toolbox.
 

user1234

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Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Great, I'm thinking of toting a Live CD along with my other goodies in the computer toolbox.


Ubuntu live CD is not that good, Knoppix is WAY WAY better

[pwned]
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Just installed it, very slick. I'll soon be disabling 99% of the slick crap, but it is slick. :p Basically just using it as a more up-to-date debian, which it certainly is (python 2.4 :D).

Same here.
For those of us that prefer KDE to Gnome, there's also Kubuntu.
Same thing pretty much, only it comes with KDE/KDM as the default desktop/login manager.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: hopejr
I downloaded the PPC Live CD and successfully burnt it to a cd, but it won't boot on my iBook. Finder doesn't even mount it, but I put it into a Windows box and was able to navigate it. What could be the problem?

Don't know.

I know you can sometimes open up improperly burnt cds and such. Did you check the md5sums?

Usually when I download it, I check the md5sums of the ISO file and make sure they match the ones on the servers, then when I burn the cd I check the md5sums of the /dev/ file for the cdrom... In Linux on Ibook it would be /dev/hdc, on OS X I believe it would be /dev/disk<something>. don't quite remember.

That way I avoid mucking around with bad cdroms, which are a huge pain.

Other then that, can you select it as a bootable device in OS X? No amount of holding C down during boot time will work?

I think the best way to burn the cdrom would be use cdrecord command line from OS X (install it thru fink or whatever) or in Windows XP I've always had best luck with 'Nero' and horrible luck with anything else.
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11266.html
 

hopejr

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The checksum must be bad. Can't be bothered downloading it again. Pressing holding down C didn't help, it would do something with the CD, and then the OS X splash screen would just appear. Pressing option on startup only showed my OS X boot partition. Oh well.
 

Steelerz37

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Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
If I'm running the 5.04 pre-release version and always keep it up to date with Synaptic, is there any reason to update my installation?

And the version number 5.04 is the same as the latest pre-release version. Are they exactly the same or did they make more changes?

To my understanging you just use the apt-get dist-upgrade, or the System Update thing that pops up next to the clock, and that brings you to the current release + any new packages. You can even upgrade from warty directly to hoary with that but changing a few lines in your /etc/sources (not sure if this is the exact file). So no, there should be no reason to reinstall
 

duragezic

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Downloading now. Hoary uses Xorg instead of XFree86, correct? Is it just more updated than Warty or is there a big list of new features?
 

Beattie

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Originally posted by: user1234
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Great, I'm thinking of toting a Live CD along with my other goodies in the computer toolbox.

Ubuntu live CD is not that good, Knoppix is WAY WAY better

[pwned]

What? I thought the ubuntu live cd was way more slick and way faster than any knoppix I ever used.
 

a7bats

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Originally posted by: duragezic
Downloading now. Hoary uses Xorg instead of XFree86, correct? Is it just more updated than Warty or is there a big list of new features?


Yes, it has Xorg. You can read the release notes as to what's included: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504/


I'm curious to run Ubuntu, but there are somethings that make me not want to try it. One being the gnome menu editing problem. Sure I can use Kubuntu, but I read some downsides about that too.

I guess I'll stick with Xandros for now.


Oh and if anyone is interested, here's an Ubuntu review:
http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu
 

tarak

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Originally posted by: a7bats


Oh and if anyone is interested, here's an Ubuntu review:
http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu

I'd hardly call it a "review". More like a long list of rants, some of which are good points, many of which I'd classify as 'nitpicking'.

Eg:
Good point: "The Trash (or, as the British localization quaintly refers to it, the ?Wastebasket?) has no idea where any of the items inside it came from. This makes restoring accidentally trashed items unnecessarily difficult."

Nitpicking: "The login screen uses the term ?reboot?. (My shoes are fine as they are, thanks.)"

I think I could tell my mom to reboot the machine and she'd figure out what i meant. Especially being right next to a "Shutdown" button. He probably wants it to say "Restart" but I hardly see that hindering use and worthy of mention in a "review"


Edit: I see he even says "This is not a review." So yeah, take it for a grain of salt, and if you're coming from another distro, this probably isn't the review you're looking for.