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Ubuntu? Fedora Core 4? Other?

Robor

Elite Member
I've done a few Linux installs in the past and never had an issue getting the OS installed but once it was done I never stuck with it. I always played around with it, found something I couldn't do, and reloaded it with Windows. Well, I've got 2 spare HD's for my IBM T42 and want to give Linux another whirl only this time I'm planning to actually use it.

I got Ubuntu installed on it last night and while it took me several hours to get it installed and learn my way around I think it's pretty cool. My question is, for the longer term, would Fedora Core 4 be a better option for my laptop or is there a better version of Linux available for a novice like myself?
 
I'd say stick with ubuntu. It the long run you might end up changing, but ubuntu is still very nice and will give you the exp you need.
 
If you're not doing this for work, Ubuntu is supposed to be great. The only reason I'd recommend FC4 over Ubuntu is if you use FC4 or RHES at work.
 
If you want a distro that is really easy to setup and works without many bugs, I would suggest SUSE. SUSE also has a great utility for updating.
 
I'm not doing it for work but there are several developers and engineers who use Fedora Core 4 there. Ubuntu was pretty straight forward to install and it launched the update on the initial bootup so I'm all updated (or at least Ubuntu told me I was).

Ubuntu came with Firefox 1.07 installed and I wanted to install 1.5 so I looked for it in the Synaptic Package Manager. I couldn't find it in there (only 1.07 and earlier) so I went to GetFirefox.com. I found it there and downloaded/extracted it but that's where I got stuck. What do I do to start the install process? I tried 'opening' a few of the files that were identified as "executable" but none of them performed like a Windows .exe or .msi file. It was late so I put it away for the night. I just got a point in the right direction from another AnandTech member. He said I have to compile it. I'll give that a try later tonight.

Some other things I want to figure out... How to put shortcuts on the desktop to commonly used things. How to show the Trash bin on the desktop. How to play a wmv, avi, etc. I tried and got a codec error.
 
Originally posted by: Robor
I'm not doing it for work but there are several developers and engineers who use Fedora Core 4 there. Ubuntu was pretty straight forward to install and it launched the update on the initial bootup so I'm all updated (or at least Ubuntu told me I was).

Ubuntu came with Firefox 1.07 installed and I wanted to install 1.5 so I looked for it in the Synaptic Package Manager. I couldn't find it in there (only 1.07 and earlier) so I went to GetFirefox.com. I found it there and downloaded/extracted it but that's where I got stuck. What do I do to start the install process? I tried 'opening' a few of the files that were identified as "executable" but none of them performed like a Windows .exe or .msi file. It was late so I put it away for the night. I just got a point in the right direction from another AnandTech member. He said I have to compile it. I'll give that a try later tonight.

You should wait for Firefox to get updated by the Ubuntu guys. Deviating from the package manager is a PITA, especially when you don't read instructions.

If you're intent on using 1.5, read the instructions. Since you didn't mention anything about anything (other than a general source for the file you downloaded), I'm useless. 😉

Some other things I want to figure out... How to put shortcuts on the desktop to commonly used things.

You can try ln.

How to play a wmv, avi, etc.

Install a media player, install the codecs you want, run the media player, select the media file to be played.

I tried and got a codec error.

Which one?
 
Well, I wasn't really updating Firefox to 1.5 because of need - more like just to learn how to install a program. The file I downloaded was "firefox-1.5.tar.gz" from here: http://www.mozilla.com/products/downloa...roduct=firefox-1.5&os=linux<=en-US I extracted that to a folder on my desktop and tried playing around with those files.

I'll look for this "In" you're speaking of.

There's a media player (Totem?) installed by default with Ubuntu but it wouldn't play anything. The error with a .wmv was "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins". I understand what the error means but how to install the plugins/codecs... Ummmm... 😉

 
Originally posted by: Robor
I'm not doing it for work but there are several developers and engineers who use Fedora Core 4 there. Ubuntu was pretty straight forward to install and it launched the update on the initial bootup so I'm all updated (or at least Ubuntu told me I was).

Ubuntu came with Firefox 1.07 installed and I wanted to install 1.5 so I looked for it in the Synaptic Package Manager. I couldn't find it in there (only 1.07 and earlier) so I went to GetFirefox.com. I found it there and downloaded/extracted it but that's where I got stuck. What do I do to start the install process? I tried 'opening' a few of the files that were identified as "executable" but none of them performed like a Windows .exe or .msi file. It was late so I put it away for the night. I just got a point in the right direction from another AnandTech member. He said I have to compile it. I'll give that a try later tonight.

Some other things I want to figure out... How to put shortcuts on the desktop to commonly used things. How to show the Trash bin on the desktop. How to play a wmv, avi, etc. I tried and got a codec error.


as for me when it came to firefox on Fedora COre 4 I just went here
and clicked that link that says firefox-1.5-0.fc4.i386.rpm FC4 automatically asked me if I wanted to install it, I said yes and voila I got the newest version of forefox up and running, the major advantage of FC4 IMHO is that you don't have to compile things from source, you don't have to always rely on a package manager, you can grab an RPM file off an app such as firefox (since it comes with all the files that it needs bundled with it) and install it on the spot without waiting for a certain repo to have it available so you can get ti theought APT or whatever else you might be using. Also in FC4 or any other distro you most probably want to run Adobe reader so you go here for instance and get it installed immediatly, or maybe if your thinkpad is like mine and it comes with mostly intel hardware, then you would for example go to the intel Linux drivers site and maybe install drivers for your 2200BG, now alot will argue that most of the stuff that I mentioned could be available in a repo for ubuntu or something like that, but that's ok, the problem is that when something isn't available in a certain repo and you have it on a media of some type or you downloaded it from some site then it's nice to be able to install it independantley that's all.
Also FC4 is so much easier to maintain for the person new to Linxu has a nice big support base and has a nice package installer with plenty of repos , also has a nice company pushing iot forward (Redhat, though no official support from them but they are financing it from under and supplying programmers that work for them)
And if you find those differences enough for you to switch to Fedora Core 4 then here is the link to it : Link
ot if your happy with what you have then enjoy Ubuntu :beer:
Just me 2 cents 😉
 
As for media players, for me it was as easy as going to the Mplayer site and on that page it tells what you need to do to setup the YUM app installer , once you do that (which takes 1 minute to accomplish) then you go to yum extender and select the greysector repo and refresh, it will show you Mplayer nad codecs fonts gui, with a couple of clicks I got Mplayer , Mplayer plugin for firefox / mozilla, and all the codecs and addons installed and working, thanx to Mplayer I have one media player on my system that allows me to play all types of music formats, the plugin plays all types of sound and video streams (realplayer , windows media, quicktime...and every other type of stream out there), I also use Mplayer to record videos and streaming audio from streams to any video or audio format I want, and it plays DVDs nicely, dude you don't know what your missing with FC 4 !!
 
Wow, that was quite a recommendation for FC4. I spoke with one of the SE's at work today and he highly recommended it as well. I think I'm going to take my existing Ubuntu hard drive out and put in another spare drive and give FC4 a try as well. I did manage to get Firefox 1.5 installed but all I did was follow some instructions I found with a Google of " 'Ubuntu "firefox 1.5" '. I didn't learn much but hey, it worked! 🙂 I'm downloading the 4 FC4 iso's right now. Gotta love a 10Mb down / 1 Mb up connection. 😀

***Thanks VERY MUCH to everyone here for the suggestions and assistance***
 
Originally posted by: Robor
Wow, that was quite a recommendation for FC4. I spoke with one of the SE's at work today and he highly recommended it as well. I think I'm going to take my existing Ubuntu hard drive out and put in another spare drive and give FC4 a try as well. I did manage to get Firefox 1.5 installed but all I did was follow some instructions I found with a Google of " 'Ubuntu "firefox 1.5" '. I didn't learn much but hey, it worked! 🙂 I'm downloading the 4 FC4 iso's right now. Gotta love a 10Mb down / 1 Mb up connection. 😀

***Thanks VERY MUCH to everyone here for the suggestions and assistance***


Nice connection!!

Anyways, once you get it installed, if you face any issues just shoot me a PM I'll be working on this programm that I am finishing all night and maybe morning too :| 🙁 🙂 😀
 
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