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Ubuntu 8.04 Final Released

I have 4 gigs/c2d on my system, should I get the 64bit version? Will I have any issues with this version? The 64bit version is the only one that will read my full 4 gigs, correct?
 
You can run a 32-bit kernel with PAE to get access to all of your memory but I'm not sure if Ubuntu packages one anymore. You could also install the 32-bit distribution and run a 64-bit kernel if you wanted, that's what I'm doing here in Debian.
 
You can read UP TO 4 Gig on a 32bit address space with the Physical Address Extension (2^32).

If you choose to go 64bit, make sure you are comfortable with Linux. First off, there is no flash player available and the Web browser must be installed as a 32bit program on the 64bit shell. Not hard, but not something you want to do if this is your first time ever using Linux.

Graphics drivers and other drivers are finicky if you use reference drivers-- most of the time Linux will identify the drivers correctly though.

Anyone downloaded and installed yet. I'm annoyed because I am in class until 12:15-- I have to wait until afterwards to install and play with the new version.

-Kevin
 
Linux will have no issues with 4gb on a 32-bit system AFAIK. With a 64-bit OS you'll have more issues getting Flash and Java working then you would on a 32-bit system. I still have issues with some Flash sites in Firefox running 7.10, I constantly have to kill npviewer.bin. I haven't taken the plunge yet to 8.04 because this is a production machine so I'm going to wait until I can get a free weekend to update it.
 
You can read UP TO 4 Gig on a 32bit address space with the Physical Address Extension (2^32).
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Uh no, PAE makes the physical address space 36-bit so you can get up to 64G.

If you choose to go 64bit, make sure you are comfortable with Linux. First off, there is no flash player available and the Web browser must be installed as a 32bit program on the 64bit shell. Not hard, but not something you want to do if this is your first time ever using Linux.
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You can use nspluginwrapper to use the 32-bit flash plugin in a 64-bit browser. No idea how well it works but then again flash sucks in a 32-bit browser too.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
You can read UP TO 4 Gig on a 32bit address space with the Physical Address Extension (2^32).
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Uh no, PAE makes the physical address space 36-bit so you can get up to 64G.

If you choose to go 64bit, make sure you are comfortable with Linux. First off, there is no flash player available and the Web browser must be installed as a 32bit program on the 64bit shell. Not hard, but not something you want to do if this is your first time ever using Linux.
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You can use nspluginwrapper to use the 32-bit flash plugin in a 64-bit browser. No idea how well it works but then again flash sucks in a 32-bit browser too.
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Flash works fine.

sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

I think that's the right one. It just makes the install of firefox "work" with flash sites on 64 bit.

.wmv files play fine too. There's no reason for me to stay with 32 bit now.
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Nothinman
You can read UP TO 4 Gig on a 32bit address space with the Physical Address Extension (2^32).
Click to expand...

Uh no, PAE makes the physical address space 36-bit so you can get up to 64G.

If you choose to go 64bit, make sure you are comfortable with Linux. First off, there is no flash player available and the Web browser must be installed as a 32bit program on the 64bit shell. Not hard, but not something you want to do if this is your first time ever using Linux.
Click to expand...

You can use nspluginwrapper to use the 32-bit flash plugin in a 64-bit browser. No idea how well it works but then again flash sucks in a 32-bit browser too.
Click to expand...

Flash works fine.

sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

I think that's the right one. It just makes the install of firefox "work" with flash sites on 64 bit.

.wmv files play fine too. There's no reason for me to stay with 32 bit now.
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Oh flash "works".. but I've found so many problems with it. For instance, I could never left click on anything in the flash object without first right clicking on what I wanted to left click, and then left click.

Also, when watching youtube type movies the audio/video never sync up.

The best feature though is when it flat out crashes firefox.

So I would say it's hit or miss, because it definitely is not reliable.
 
I grabbed it first thing this morning, but I haven't installed it on my dual boot desktop yet. I've in the middle of the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, if that FUBARs its no biggie for me to reformat though. The ETA on it is all over the board though, varies from 2hr remaining to 17hr remaining because of variations in the DL speed of the new packages. *Edit* Make that 5 days. Not sure if my cable is flaking on me, or if their servers are just getting that hammered.

I've had the release candidate on one of my test beds as well, and haven't experienced any issues, though admittedly, I didn't use it a lot. I don't think there was much difference between the RC and the final 8.04 though. After Final posted, I ran the update manager on the release candidate install and there were only a handful of package updates.

Now, I wish I could say the XP SP3 install went as smoothly. . . .Gonna go post in that thread next.
 
Originally posted by: Crusty
Oh flash "works".. but I've found so many problems with it. For instance, I could never left click on anything in the flash object without first right clicking on what I wanted to left click, and then left click.

Also, when watching youtube type movies the audio/video never sync up.

The best feature though is when it flat out crashes firefox.

So I would say it's hit or miss, because it definitely is not reliable.
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Odd... I haven't had a problem at all with flash for quite some time now.
 
Is it me, or are the repositories getting hammered?

I gave up waiting for the apt-get upgrade to finish, it was only DLing packages at a rate of 200 B/s. So I grabbed the 8.04 CD I burned this morning and installed from that. Now, I'm trying to install the ATI 8.4 Catalyst drivers.

I've set the execute bit on the .run file and used --buildpkg Ubuntu, where it auto detected hardy as the distro version. The prompt kicked out 'Resolving build dependencies' and then a Synaptic updater window opened, stating it needed to DL 14 files. At that point, it appears to hang. It worked briefly, at sub 1KB/s speeds, then stopped again.

I know my internet connection is fine, because my XP box is in the process of recovering from that cruddy SP3 download and just pulled a few hundred files from Windows Update at 900KB/s speeds.

Edit - At the way this install is going, I'm going to watch my pre SP1 install of XP install SP2, and the 200MB of updates that follow it, download and install. 🙁

Edit - Its moving, though very slowly. I wonder if I should be concerned that its DLing i386 packages for its dependencies, for use a 64 bit system with the 64 bit version of the ATI linux drivers?

Nothing like downloading a 20MB package at 500 bytes per second though, reminds me of my first dial up modem.
 
So, are there any *major* changes that would get one who was on the wall before to finally take a harder look at it, or is it fairly incremental? From what I can gather, it isnt very huge of an update, more about updating the included programs than anything else.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
So, are there any *major* changes that would get one who was on the wall before to finally take a harder look at it, or is it fairly incremental? From what I can gather, it isnt very huge of an update, more about updating the included programs than anything else.
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The biggest part of this release is that is a LTS release. Basically, they will continue to offer patches and security updates for 8.04 for years into the future. IIRC the last LTS was 6.04, so that would put it on a 2yr cycle so far.

I'm sure somebody else here knows the exact numbers, and I bet it's on their site too 🙂
 
I downloaded it and look forward to playing with it tomorrow. I really use Ubuntu more for data recovery and diagnostics than anything else. But it is a nice looking operating system as well.

 
Originally posted by: Crusty
Originally posted by: BD2003
So, are there any *major* changes that would get one who was on the wall before to finally take a harder look at it, or is it fairly incremental? From what I can gather, it isnt very huge of an update, more about updating the included programs than anything else.
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The biggest part of this release is that is a LTS release. Basically, they will continue to offer patches and security updates for 8.04 for years into the future. IIRC the last LTS was 6.04, so that would put it on a 2yr cycle so far.

I'm sure somebody else here knows the exact numbers, and I bet it's on their site too 🙂
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6.06, Dapper Drake. There was not 6.04. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Crusty
Originally posted by: BD2003
So, are there any *major* changes that would get one who was on the wall before to finally take a harder look at it, or is it fairly incremental? From what I can gather, it isnt very huge of an update, more about updating the included programs than anything else.
Click to expand...

The biggest part of this release is that is a LTS release. Basically, they will continue to offer patches and security updates for 8.04 for years into the future. IIRC the last LTS was 6.04, so that would put it on a 2yr cycle so far.

I'm sure somebody else here knows the exact numbers, and I bet it's on their site too 🙂
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6.06, Dapper Drake. There was not 6.04. 😛
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Bah, I had that in there and changed it at the last second!
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
So, are there any *major* changes that would get one who was on the wall before to finally take a harder look at it, or is it fairly incremental? From what I can gather, it isnt very huge of an update, more about updating the included programs than anything else.
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Wubi seems very interesting to me

http://wubi-installer.org/
 
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