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Ubuntu 64bit

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duragezic

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I might give linux a try again. Xgl + compiz looks pretty nifty, though not all that useful. But linux has gotten better and better (I started long ago with Red Hat and Mandrake and couldn't get sound or network working, then FC2/3 and Ubuntu was much better) fairly quickly.

I'm sort of set on Ubuntu for now. My only complaint really is the default UI is kinda crappy but I can mess around a little to make it better. I didn't like the package managment in FC as much as Debian-based Ubuntu, and I'm sort of undecided on SuSe.

But.. is there any reason to run 64bit? I've searched and found a few threads... seems that 64bit support in linux is better than XP (I've never ran XP 64bit since it seems like a waste)

The only drivers I need are Nvidia Geforce, Nforce4, and Audigy. A quick glance shows that shouldn't be a problem.

But I read something about iffy codec support and Flash plugins. I would certainly have a hard time using linux as a main OS if I couldn't play xvid/mpg/wmv videos or Flash on websites (yeah I hate flash mostly but it would kinda suck to not have it).

Finally, would 64bit be any more of a problem for running games with Cedega Transgaming? If I could get a few games to run quickly in linux it would be easier to use as a primary OS (I game less and less these days, which was my biggest problem with moving to linux).
 
It sounds like you should stick with 32-bit if you're not up for messing around a lot with the 64-bit environment to get a 32-bit "jail" for some apps. I can't really see any benefit of 64-bit besides a bit of speed (if that). Maybe people will make some scripts to make everything easier for 64-bit users. Right now some specialized packages only support i386 and you have to compile the amd64 ones yourself (which is not always easy). Some (generally low-level) code isn't even 64-bit safe.

I use Ubuntu 64-bit right now. For Windows-friendly websites I just pull out my VMware. If it's possible to get those codecs working on 32-bit, it is possible somehow on a 64-bit distro. I just haven't seen the advantage of fighting with that vs. just using VMware. If you want your Linux experience to be good as possible, use a 32-bit distro at this time.
 
Much like Windows, stick with 32-bit unless you really need the extra memory. There are still a number of things that don't quite work right in 64-bit - like many codecs and plugins, as you mentioned. These things can be worked around satisfactorily, but it's kind of a pain and you're really not getting anything for your trouble. Chances are good that you'll end up reinstalling or trying a new distro at least a couple more times before you really settle into a Linux install, so you can always change you're mind later and install 64-bit then.
 
Well I was about set on i386 version till you posted n0cmonkey!

My 'net connection is slow as hell so I'm only gonna get one for now, since once I download the 700mb CD I need to download all of the software once Ubuntu is installed.

Sure x86 isn't a good idea to stick with, but I don't see what amd64 offers other than a greater PITA in setting up things. Linux isn't exactly the easiest to do stuff as it is. I've used it quite a bit but there's still just a lot of things that require fvcking with and looking up FAQs on to do something that wouldn't take more than a minute in WIndows. So I kind of want to reduce that.

Like advantages of 64-bit are what?
 
Originally posted by: duragezic
Well I was about set on i386 version till you posted n0cmonkey!

My 'net connection is slow as hell so I'm only gonna get one for now, since once I download the 700mb CD I need to download all of the software once Ubuntu is installed.

Sure x86 isn't a good idea to stick with, but I don't see what amd64 offers other than a greater PITA in setting up things. Linux isn't exactly the easiest to do stuff as it is. I've used it quite a bit but there's still just a lot of things that require fvcking with and looking up FAQs on to do something that wouldn't take more than a minute in WIndows. So I kind of want to reduce that.

Like advantages of 64-bit are what?
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Less x86 legacy crap. It's the future, pretty much all development should be focusing on amd64. No one buys x86 chips anymore, it'd be retarded.

The only things you lose are poorly coded apps and a couple pieces of commercial software that probably isn't worth the effort anyhow. Unless of course you need that software to live, in which case you wouldn't have asked this question in the first place. 😉

EDIT: I'm not sure about Linux, but I know other OSes have better memory protection running in amd64 mode.
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No one buys x86 chips anymore, it'd be retarded.
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Except just about everybody with recent Apple hardware...

duragezic, in case you haven't noticed, he's just yanking your chain. God (probably) won't kill any kittens if you use x86 :evil:
 
Originally posted by: kamper
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
No one buys x86 chips anymore, it'd be retarded.
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Except just about everybody with recent Apple hardware...

duragezic, in case you haven't noticed, he's just yanking your chain. God (probably) won't kill any kittens if you use x86 :evil:
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It's a half yank, I'm not thrilled about Apple's recent hardware. amd64 > *.
 
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