Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot'

VinDSL

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If you like working with Ubu dev releases, pre-alpha1 is a great time to upgrade! ;)


Ubuntu 11.10 / Conky 1.8.0 / Lua / Unity / Metric Weather Stats (Click to expand)

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Code:
vindsl@Zuul:~$ uname -s -r && unity --version && cat /etc/lsb-release && /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[B][COLOR="Red"]Linux 2.6.39-020639rc7-generic
unity 3.8.12[/COLOR][/B]
DISTRIB_ID=[B][COLOR="Red"]Ubuntu[/COLOR][/B]
DISTRIB_RELEASE=[B][COLOR="red"]11.10[/COLOR][/B]
DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="[B][COLOR="red"]Ubuntu oneiric (development branch)[/COLOR][/B]"
OpenGL vendor string:   NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GT/AGP/SSE2
OpenGL version string:  2.1.2 [B][COLOR="red"]NVIDIA 270.41.06[/COLOR][/B]

Not software rendered:    [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
Not blacklisted:          [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GLX fbconfig:             [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GLX texture from pixmap:  [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GL npot or rect textures: [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GL vertex program:        [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GL fragment program:      [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GL vertex buffer object:  [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GL framebuffer object:    [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
GL version is 1.4+:       [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]

Unity supported:          [B][COLOR="LimeGreen"]yes[/COLOR][/B]
vindsl@Zuul:~$
 
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SickBeast

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LOL

How much work can they actually do in a couple of weeks?

I've installed these early alphas before, and I find that they're essentially identical to the previous version.

What are they planning with 11.10? It's too bad BTRFS didn't pan out.
 

drizek

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LOL

How much work can they actually do in a couple of weeks?

I've installed these early alphas before, and I find that they're essentially identical to the previous version.

What are they planning with 11.10? It's too bad BTRFS didn't pan out.

What happened to butterface? Is it sun/solaris.oracle politics?
 

JD50

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Hey look. It's Windows 7.

Yea, it looks exactly like my brand new windows 7 install, except that it doesn't...:confused:

I installed windows 7 for games and to use MS Word...the ONLY thing that I did after install was add a clock widget (weren't widgets used in KDE before they were ever used in windows?) and it looks nothing like that screenshot of Ubuntu. What are you talking about?
 

JD50

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I'm mainly a Fedora guy but I wanted to install Ubuntu to try out Unity. I liked GNOME 3 more than I thought I would so I thought I'd give Unity a shot. So like I always do for new installs (I usually triple or quadruple boot) I created a new logical volume for my Ubuntu install. Then I rebooted with the Ubuntu installation disc, got to the partitioning section, and it doesn't even recognize my logical volumes?

Now I know that I can install lvm, activate the volume group, install on the previously created logical volume, then install lvm in the new sysimage, then finally reboot into my new install. But really? Ubuntu doesn't support lvm by default? Or did I just miss something? I assumed that a distro known for being so noob friendly would've been easier than a Fedora install. But maybe I'm just looking for options that noobs aren't going to need/want.
 

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I'm mainly a Fedora guy but I wanted to install Ubuntu to try out Unity. I liked GNOME 3 more than I thought I would so I thought I'd give Unity a shot. So like I always do for new installs (I usually triple or quadruple boot) I created a new logical volume for my Ubuntu install. Then I rebooted with the Ubuntu installation disc, got to the partitioning section, and it doesn't even recognize my logical volumes?

Now I know that I can install lvm, activate the volume group, install on the previously created logical volume, then install lvm in the new sysimage, then finally reboot into my new install. But really? Ubuntu doesn't support lvm by default? Or did I just miss something? I assumed that a distro known for being so noob friendly would've been easier than a Fedora install. But maybe I'm just looking for options that noobs aren't going to need/want.

The GUI installer never supported LVM AFAIK, you had to use the "alternate" installer which was just a rebranded Debian installer IIRC.
 

drizek

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Ya, anything other than just copying the livecd to your drive you should use hte alternate iso.
 

VinDSL

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Looks like [butterface is] still being developed to me...
Yep!

See this article: Btrfs Support For Ubuntu's Update Manager

Eventually we will see Ubuntu Linux deploy Btrfs as the default file-system. While we will likely not see the switch from EXT4 to Btrfs with Ubuntu 11.10, there is work underway on Btrfs integration support into Ubuntu's Update Manager. [...]

Plus, I noticed this in the Dmesg.txt in my last UbuOO bug report (unrelated):

Code:
[ 3226.125592] Btrfs loaded

It's a comin' ;)
 

VinDSL

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LOL

How much work can they actually do in a couple of weeks?


  1. Syncing with debian sid and experimental
  2. RC kernels and driver stacks
  3. Daily images to provide a quick and bleeding-edge linux desktop

I've installed these early alphas before, and I find that they're essentially identical to the previous version.
This is pre-alpha...

Here's the UbuOO release schedule:

  • June 2 Alpha 1
  • June 30 Alpha 2
  • August 4 Alpha 3
  • September 1 Beta 1
  • September 22 Beta 2
  • October 13 Final release

And, believe me - there have been plenty of changes (and breakage) already. :)

dconf-gsettings-backend comes to mind:


SOURCE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/778950
Unity doesn't store the launcher icon preferences or doesn't read any dconf setting (e.g. the form factor of dash) unless the dconf-gsettings-backend is also installed along with libdconf0. Unity should depend on dconf-gsettings-backend package as well.

In the latest sync of d-conf from Debian, the libdconf0 binary was split into libdconf0 and dconf-gsettings-backend, both of which are needed in Unity.


What are they planning with 11.10? It's too bad BTRFS didn't pan out.
It's still on...


SOURCE: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-update-manager-btrfs/
Notes from Oneiric planning:
- Auto-import latest apt-btrfs-snapshot on update-manager build.
- Calculate additional disk space when u-m runs
- Cleaning up old snapshots (cron?, computer-janitor? consensus seemed to be cron)
-> can we figure out when a snapshot was used?
- delete snapshot older than 30days (if unused) via cron
- Support for booting upgrade snapshots? http://paste.ubuntu.com/590182/
-> use submenu for old snapshot, think about presentation (date? kernel version? I think date)
-> inhibit safe-defaults when booting from a snapshot
- when booting into a old snapshot initramfs should create another snapshot to ensure
that the snapshot is not altered by the user
- support failure detection in grub
- The UI should not go in GRUB because it cannot offer good UI; it should be scheduled by a proper UI (X, friendly-recovery) for the next boot.
- friendly-recovery menu entry for this
- GUI tool for selecting old snapshots (needs input from mpt what it looks like/where it should go)
- grub-editenv can be used to store stuff for grub
- NYI for btrfs but likely to happen this cycle [cjwatson]
- surbhi will get in touch with upstream about if we can use "set-default" instead of "@"
- profile why btrfs feels slow with dpkg (fsync/syncfilerange issues ?), use LD_PRELOAD=libeatmydata
- test dpkg 1.16.0 on btrfs
- because /home is on a seperate subvolume we may run into issues with gconf->gsettings
we need to check that the old gconf stuff is kept around
- write a wiki page explaining why its good to avoid one way transitions of e.g. config files when apps get updated to avoid failure when e.g. /home is on nfs and used by multiple versions of the application (potentially bring up with debian-policy?
 

lxskllr

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You make unity sexy.

Unity /looks/ awesome. My issue is with the functionality. It doesn't work at all the way I like my desktop to work. I thought Gnome2 was perfect. It did everything exactly the way I wanted it to.
 

IGemini

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I'm behind on my Linux programs. Is that right-hand pane part of Unity, Compiz, or is it a separate program? I like something like that for my HTPC.
 

lxskllr

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I'm behind on my Linux programs. Is that right-hand pane part of Unity, Compiz, or is it a separate program? I like something like that for my HTPC.

That's the Unity DE. If you like that, check out Gnome3. It's similar, with a different take. Of the 2, I prefer Unity.
 

Jodell88

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I'm behind on my Linux programs. Is that right-hand pane part of Unity, Compiz, or is it a separate program? I like something like that for my HTPC.
You mean all the system info? That's conky.