Ubisoft: I Am Alive cancelled on the PC cause "so few people are paying for PC games"

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Bonesdad

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go to any torrent site and look at the software section

Look at seeders and leechers. Seems obvious.

And when does your membership in the Flat Earth Society come up for renewal? Seems obvious after all...
 

PrincessFrosty

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This is a reasonable viewpoint. It is much more reasonable to me than the tone of some of your earlier posts, or maybe I was just mis-interpreting what you said. It is just that when people so adamantly say piracy is not stealing, I usually take that to mean they think it is justified or not illegal despite the copyright laws.

What I've said is pretty much just fact in terms of the law, it's simply not open for dispute, piracy is not theft. The problem is when you correct someone who doesn't know what they're talking about they tend to assume you mean that piracy is OK or that you condone it, which is not a logical leap you can make.

It seems like nitpicking, but it's really not, the problem is that people create analogies in their mind in order to better understand, so they think that copying a CD is the same as stealing a loaf of bread and that is demonstrably WRONG. It's bad enough that people don't understand copyright or the underlying principles of not actually "owning" their own media, but then they make stupid arguments online which make absolutely no sense and just propagate these bad ideas. So when people correct the theft/copyright issue, really we're correcting an entire way of thinking.

While people make the 2 equivalent we'll always have bad reasoning, such as the following post:

"So the Kia dealer wanted too much for this car, AND it didn't have leather seats or an iPod connector! Sellers should be required to sell me exactly what I want for however much I want to pay, so I'll just steal a car!"

Stealing cars is not an accurate analogy for pirating software, it's an idea which is spread by anti-piracy groups in order to put a spin on the piracy laws and appeal to emotion of people who don't understand the law correctly.

It's kind of like saying that a man who is physically abusive to his wife has raped her. OK, so there's violence in both cases but domestic violence isn't rape and calling it rape is an appeal to emotion to make the situation seem worse than it really is.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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lets stay up to date please, its apparentely just a misunderstanding. the game may stll come to PC

It seems more like backpedaling to me than a misunderstanding. With their sales pulmeting it seems they've realized that the PC market is infact sizable and not everyone that would buy their games on PC went and bought them on xbox like they assumed they would after pissing all over them.
 

Golgatha

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It seems more like backpedaling to me than a misunderstanding. With their sales pulmeting it seems they've realized that the PC market is infact sizable and not everyone that would buy their games on PC went and bought them on xbox like they assumed they would after pissing all over them.

If a FPS isn't available on the PC, I just won't buy it. I cannot for the life of me get used to a FPS on a console controller.
 

BrightCandle

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It seems more like backpedaling to me than a misunderstanding. With their sales pulmeting it seems they've realized that the PC market is infact sizable and not everyone that would buy their games on PC went and bought them on xbox like they assumed they would after pissing all over them.

IMO they have done more to invoke hate than any other publisher. Ubisoft started the war against their customers willingly, I wont miss them when they file for bankruptcy. I feel for the people who inside this mess who were screaming desperately to stop management destroying their livelihood but no one can save them from that fate. I don't care what Ubisoft do, they could make the next Quake for all I care, they'll not get another penny from me.
 

orbster556

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on the topic of piracy and DRM - i'm trying to move my steam install of arkham city to another PC of mine (better GPU) and while i have 0 probs with steam, GFWL is being a BITCA!

would be less hassle just to have pirated the damn thing! grrr.

I had the same exact experience -- luckily I was able to resolve it -- and thought the same exact thing. When DRM becomes so intrusive and unworkable that it leads paying customers to consider pirating games solely to have a superior user experience, I should think a change in approach is necessary.

Don't get me wrong, piracy is a problem and, over the long-term, it will affect the paying consumer as the quality of products will decline (this is the principal reason I stopped pirating PC games many years ago). I have to imagine, however, that there exists a better copyright protection system vis-a-vis the promotion of copyright protection and the ease of use for paying customers. Although I lack the answer, I think this shortcoming has more to do with the limitations of my technical knowledge not answer's existence generally.
 

orbster556

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If a FPS isn't available on the PC, I just won't buy it. I cannot for the life of me get used to a FPS on a console controller.

I have the same problem; it's actually somewhat strange because I used to enjoy console fpss and regularly played Halo and the like. After playing the original COD:MW on PC for a couple of months, I tried going back when ODST was released and couldn't stand the dual analog sticks anymore. That was really the first time I played an online PC FPS for an extended period of time -- I was too young for Quake and UT never really caught my fancy -- and I guess I just got used to the greater ease and precision of aiming via mouse.

It's a shame, really, because I wanted to play Reach when it was released but found myself getting exasperated with the controls. Had there been a dearth of other games available to play, I might have put up with the annoyance just to see the story, but, luckily for gamers, the problem has not been too few titles to play but too many.
 

HeXen

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Game pads just take some getting used to again is all, however they do make dongles that allow you to plug in you're mouse/kbanduse it with your games. I got one on the ps3 fora couple games before and it worked pretty good. But using both for years on both platforms and I'm good with either one