U.S. to sharply cut number of high-tech visas

dquan97

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(from CNN)

U.S. to sharply cut number of high-tech visas
Monday, September 22, 2003 Posted: 11:28 PM EDT (0328 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The United States is about to cut the number of employment visas it offers to highly qualified foreign workers from 195,000 to 65,000, immigration experts said Monday.

Unless Congress acts by the end of this month -- and there is little sign it will do so -- the change will automatically take effect on Oct. 1. Employers, especially technology companies, argue the move will hurt them and the economy.

The change will affect the number of H1-B visas that can be issued each fiscal year. The visas are mostly used to bring high-tech experts from Asia, especially from the Indian sub-continent, to work in the United States for up to three years.

"The fact that Congress doesn't seem anxious to act reflects the political climate, with a lack of jobs for Americans," said New York immigration lawyer Cyrus Mehta.

"The pressure to change the limit will build up again when the economy picks up."

The Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on the issue last week. Republican chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah noted that many U.S. high-tech workers are unemployed and the committee needed to find ways of helping them without hurting the country's ability to compete globally.

Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy said: "Given the weakness of our current economy, and the rising unemployment we have experienced under President Bush's stewardship, many who supported the increase in 2000 now believe that 65,000 visas are sufficient."

But Patrick Duffy, Human Resources Attorney for Intel Corporation, said finding the best-educated engineering talent from around the world was critical to his company's future.

"We expect that we will continue to sponsor H-1B employees in the future for the simple reason that we cannot find enough U.S. workers with the advanced education, skills, and expertise we need," he said.

Elizabeth Dickson, director of immigration services for the Ingersoll-Rand Company, speaking on behalf of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said: "In the near-term, we simply must have access to foreign nationals. Many of them have been educated in the United States. By sending them home, we are at best sending them to our own foreign plant sites, and at worst to our competitors."

Immigration attorneys expect the new rules to set off a scramble by companies to fill their slots early before the ceiling is reached. How quickly that happens depends on the state of the economy, they said.
 

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It will be interesting to see how all of the Anand techies react to this.
 

dquan97

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I'm glad to hear this because it's a step in the right direction. Since companies prefer to look abroad instead of domestic, it'll force them to educate/retrain their current workers.
 

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Originally posted by: dquan97
I'm glad to hear this because it's a step in the right direction. Since companies prefer to look abroad instead of domestic, it'll force them to educate/retrain their current workers.

Or the company could move it's factories/labs abroad to the workers?

Or the company could suffer financially because foriegn competitors get hold of the talent instead of them?

The way I see it is that the only way to ensure your jobs is to compete wholeheartedly. Compete on salary, conditions, educational qualifications, etc. If that gets too bad then it's time to start appealing to government to set some minimum standards but otherwise it's like trying to shore up a crumbling dam.

Andy
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
There is no need for the Visas anymore anyway since all the jobs went right back overseas to where the people were coming from to get the Visas. :confused:

That and coupled with the fact that H1-B applicant numbers has been greatly decreased (IIRC, last year only 79,000 was used), there's no point of keeping a high limit like 195,0000.
65,000 will be adequate for now considering the stage of employment in the IT fields.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
There is no need for the Visas anymore anyway since all the jobs went right back overseas to where the people were coming from to get the Visas. :confused:

That and coupled with the fact that H1-B applicant numbers has been greatly decreased (IIRC, last year only 79,000 was used), there's no point of keeping a high limit like 195,0000.
65,000 will be adequate for now considering the stage of employment in the IT fields.

We are looking to hire a DB guy at the office...so far no qualified resumes. I am not sure the IT industry is hurting right now.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: dquan97
I'm glad to hear this because it's a step in the right direction. Since companies prefer to look abroad instead of domestic, it'll force them to educate/retrain their current workers.


Or the company could suffer financially because foriegn competitors get hold of the talent instead of them?


Andy

India is turning out 50k CS grads a year. They are going to a world wide tech power, even if we stop outsourcing 100%. We are going to be competing with india. I would rather the talent work here and pay taxes.
 

DeeKnow

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you got it, charrison!
cutting down on H1 visas is a bit like shutting the stable doors after the horses have fled... so much work is moving to India, what good is it going to do to stop the Indians from coming in anyway ?
at least when thy're in the US, they contribute to the economy ...