U.S. Supreme Court upholds Arizona law punishing businesses that hire illegal immigra

[Vette73]

U.S. Supreme Court upholds Arizona law punishing businesses that hire illegal immigrants.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/26/scotus.arizona.law/index.html?hpt=T2


Just saw this headline. Good news.


Put blame where it should be. If there is little to no work why would someone come to the US?
Just like arresting a couple people that smoke crack is not going to do anything, except watse tax money and police. You have to go after the source.

 

[PokerGuy]

Excellent ruling. Not surprising of course that the usual band of idiots were on the wrong side of the ruling, including the obummer administration.

This bodes well for the "controversial" AZ law that will surely end up in front of the SCOTUS as well.

 

[OutHouse]

holy shit finally a SC ruling that makes sense.

 

[fskimospy]

If you read the ruling you'll see that it doesn't bode particularly well for the other AZ law at all. A big part of the decision talks about how the state was deferring to the federal government to the maximum extent, using the federal government's own databases for what the fed determined to be legal or not, etc.

 

[spidey07]

Wise Latina's thought process..."permitting states". Notice the judges who voted against this, all the liberals. Hey sotomeyor, you, the federal government, work FOR the states, not against.

"Permitting states to make use of E-Verify mandatory improperly puts states in the position of making decisions ... that directly affect expenditure and depletion of federal resources," she wrote. Justices Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg also dissented.

 

[PokerGuy]

If you read the ruling you'll see that it doesn't bode particularly well for the other AZ law at all. A big part of the decision talks about how the state was deferring to the federal government to the maximum extent, using the federal government's own databases for what the fed determined to be legal or not, etc.

We already know how the idiots will vote (the same as in this case), we need to see how the intelligent contingent on the court will vote, and based on this ruling they at least have not dismissed the notion that the state can take action on immigration front simply because it's a federal issue.

 

[fskimospy]

We already know how the idiots will vote (the same as in this case), we need to see how the intelligent contingent on the court will vote, and based on this ruling they at least have not dismissed the notion that the state can take action on immigration front simply because it's a federal issue.

Ahh, I knew that the issue was always 'intelligent' people on the court vs. the 'idiots'.

/facepalm

 

[MotF Bane]

The SC gets something right, seems to be a novelty of late. :thumbsup:

 

[Zebo]

Every time a SC ruling comes out I am thankful we had Bush. Liberal judges are bat shit crazy and I'm pretty liberal.

 

[actuarial]

I completely agree with this law/ruling, even though I completely disagree with the other Arizona immigration law.

I don't see the two as connected at all. One has to do with state power vs federal, the other has to do with the 4th amendment.

 

[Thump553]

Anyone read the actual decision yet? How did they handle the issue of the reliability of the E-Verify system?

 

[spidey07]

Anyone read the actual decision yet? How did they handle the issue of the reliability of the Federal Government?

Fixed that for you

 

[Zebo]

I don't see how it would be more or less reliable than i9 sent in and waiting 3-6 months by post.

 

[spidey07]

I don't see how it would be more or less reliable than i9 sent in and waiting 3-6 months by post.

The illegal loving liberal always reverts to the "it's unreliable" argument or "do nothing" approach.

This ruling puts the illegal loving liberal in a very bad spot. If they agree with the ruling then it means they really do believe in states rights. If they disagree with it then it puts them in bed with the Chamber of Commerce. Watch as their illegal loving heads explode. But once again, it shows Obama is on the wrong side of history and is an enemy of the states.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Wise Latina's thought process..."permitting states". Notice the judges who voted against this, all the liberals. Hey sotomeyor, you, the federal government, work FOR the states, not against.

Uh, no, they work for the people.

 

[PokerGuy]

Ahh, I knew that the issue was always 'intelligent' people on the court vs. the 'idiots'.

/facepalm

As evidenced by this ruling and many others like it. You can pretty much see any case in front of the courts and immediately know how each justice is going to rule, with the exception of Kennedy. You pretty much know where the idiot contingent will stand, you know where the conservative wing will be, it always comes down to Kennedy.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

U.S. Supreme Court upholds Arizona law punishing businesses that hire illegal immigrants.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/26/scotus.arizona.law/index.html?hpt=T2


Just saw this headline. Good news.


Put blame where it should be. If there is little to no work why would someone come to the US?
Just like arresting a couple people that smoke crack is not going to do anything, except watse tax money and police. You have to go after the source.

Which is why the Obama administration opposed it and took it to court.

Anyways I am glad Az. got a win out of this and this case just further illustrates the consistency of their stance on ILLEGAL immigration.

 

[OCGuy]

Excellent ruling. Sotomeyor is a racist that needs to be countered on every single issue.

One of the only good things out of the Bush presidency is the makeup of the SCOTUS.

 

[manimal]

Socially I am pretty liberal and I agree with this. I have always thought there should be repercussions for businesses hiring illegal labor. Now some of the other comments in thread about Sotomayor and spideys rantings go a bit too far...

Some of you should look into lithium treatments.....

 

[Ape]

U.S. Supreme Court upholds Arizona law punishing businesses that hire illegal immigrants.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/26/scotus.arizona.law/index.html?hpt=T2


Just saw this headline. Good news.


Put blame where it should be. If there is little to no work why would someone come to the US?
Just like arresting a couple people that smoke crack is not going to do anything, except watse tax money and police. You have to go after the source.

Business's are only half the blame. Illegals still get free health care, food stamps, welfare, education and so on. While I am 100% nailing every business who hires illegals to the wall but we also need to take away every government hand out including anchor babies. Take everything away and they will have no reason to come over illegally.

 

[fskimospy]

Business's are only half the blame. Illegals still get free health care, food stamps, welfare, education and so on. While I am 100% nailing every business who hires illegals to the wall but we also need to take away every government hand out including anchor babies. Take everything away and they will have no reason to come over illegally.

Sure they do, illegal immigrants use government services at vastly lower rates than anyone else out of fear. They come over to work, nothing else.

I'm glad to hear you want to repeal the 14th amendment and all, but the rest of the country has grown sort of attached to it over the last century and a half. I think we'll keep it, thanks.

 

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[PokerGuy]

Sure they do, illegal immigrants use government services at vastly lower rates than anyone else out of fear.

They shouldn't use the services "at a lower rate", they should not be getting any service.

 

[JTsyo]

U.S. Supreme Court upholds Arizona law punishing businesses that hire illegal immigrants.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/26/scotus.arizona.law/index.html?hpt=T2


Just saw this headline. Good news.


Put blame where it should be. If there is little to no work why would someone come to the US?
Just like arresting a couple people that smoke crack is not going to do anything, except watse tax money and police. You have to go after the source.

Your analogy is wrong. In this case they are removing the demand (jobs), which is the same thing they are trying to do with drugs. Arrest the users to reduce demand. The other way to remove the demand for illegal drugs would be to make them legal.

 

[blackangst1]

Excellent!