U.S. Supreme Court blocks Ohio vote challenge

[techs]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ame...tions_2008/7676922.stm

The US Supreme Court has blocked attempts by the Republican Party to challenge the right of 200,000 new voters to cast their ballots in Ohio.

An appeal court had previously backed a complaint brought by the party, which argued that the voters' details did not match federal records.

Their concern was over registered voters backing Democratic Party candidate Barack Obama for president.

A Democratic official said Republicans were trying to disenfranchise voters.

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, said that although there were 200,000 cases where voter registration did not match social security or motor vehicle registration records, the majority of the cases were mis-spellings or inaccuracies in data bases.

"Federal government red tape, mis-stated technical information or glitches in databases should not be the basis for voters having to cast provisional ballots," she said.


This is a VICTORY for AMERICA.

 

[jpeyton]

LAWL

 

[jonks]

You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

 

[musicman64]

Yeah, the issue being the lack of standing.

So... who would have standing? McCain or Obama?

If so, and McCain somehow closes the gap (lawl...) weeee that could fun, Florida 08!

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: musicman64
Yeah, the issue being the lack of standing.

So... who would have standing? McCain or Obama?

If so, and McCain somehow closes the gap (lawl...) weeee that could fun, Florida 08!

Please do NOT put the election outcome on FL again. My state has already proven it can not be trusted.

OT: Are you going for a record today, techs?

 

[Stuxnet]

16 threads on the front page - A NEW RECORD!

 

[musicman64]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: musicman64
Yeah, the issue being the lack of standing.

So... who would have standing? McCain or Obama?

If so, and McCain somehow closes the gap (lawl...) weeee that could fun, Florida 08!

Please do NOT put the election outcome on FL again. My state has already proven it can not be trusted.

OT: Are you going for a record today, techs?

I was trying to ask if OH could be the new FL if McCain closed the gap (haha) It wasn't very clear, hell I couldn't type a sentence correctly - gonna go pass out now from looking at too many numbers overnight, stupid class :/

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that voters will now get a chance to vote!

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that dead voters will now get a chance to vote!

Fixed

 

[Lemon law]

And better yet, it stops similar attempts in all 50 States of the Union.

Apparently flying below the radar is the statement by the OHIO AG, that while 200,000 newly registered voters did not perfectly match other records, "the majority of the cases were mis-spellings or inaccuracies in data bases." And flies in the face of some GOP posters who wanted to imply that all 200,000 were fraudulent. But since the 200,000 name list is compiled and probably in GOP hands, I wonder if that precludes some challenges at the precinct level when these people vote? Which could slow voting to a crawl.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that dead voters will now get a chance to vote!

Fixed

Yay for voter fraud!

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that dead voters will now get a chance to vote!

Fixed

Yay for voter fraud!

Do you tools have any proof that even 20% of the 200,000 challenged registrations are fraudulent?

Hell, I'll make it even easier for you. Try to prove just 10% are fraudulent.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that dead voters will now get a chance to vote!

Fixed

Yay for voter fraud!

There have been almost NO cases of actual voter fraud in this country over the last 8 years. Look it up. There have been successful attempsts to limit legitimate voting in Florida where they specifically tried to use the strictest, most widespread net to stop people from voting. And there have been documented cases where in poor neighborhoods not enough ballots or machines have been available and have presented huge hardships to voters who have been asked to wait in lines for hours and hours.
Remember how the Republicans illegally fired US district attorneys who refused to prosecute make believe cases of voter fraud?
The facts speak for themselves.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: musicman64
Yeah, the issue being the lack of standing.

So... who would have standing? McCain or Obama?

If so, and McCain somehow closes the gap (lawl...) weeee that could fun, Florida 08!

Obama is looking very likely to win VA right now, making FL and OH irrelevant. Indications are that this is not going to end very close.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: musicman64
Yeah, the issue being the lack of standing.

So... who would have standing? McCain or Obama?

If so, and McCain somehow closes the gap (lawl...) weeee that could fun, Florida 08!

Obama is looking very likely to win VA right now, making FL and OH irrelevant. Indications are that this is not going to end very close.

Stop jinxing him! My father called me last night to talk about how The Rays were killing The Red Sox. What happened? Only the biggest collapse in an elimination game EVER. Wait, unless you're reverse-jinxing saying McCain is going to roll. If so that's perfectly fine.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that dead voters will now get a chance to vote!

Fixed

Yay for voter fraud!

There have been almost NO cases of actual voter fraud in this country over the last 8 years. Look it up.

So this is the first time someone like ACORN has registered fake voters? Bahahaha.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: techs


This is a VICTORY for AMERICA.

:laugh: Yeah, I guess if you think the sec of state not following the law is "victory for America"

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that dead voters will now get a chance to vote!

Fixed

Yay for voter fraud!

There have been almost NO cases of actual voter fraud in this country over the last 8 years. Look it up.

So this is the first time someone like ACORN has registered fake voters? Bahahaha.

Wow. That was stupid. Voter fraud is when a person VOTES fraudulenty.
And in this case its a question of voter registration and there is an investigation being done. No charges. And EVERY suspect registration was pointed out clearly by ACORN, as required by law, on the FRONT page of every stack of applications. In fact, that was one of the key issues, how could they claim illegal voter registration when they followed the law and pointed out all the POSSIBLE registrations that may have problems.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

So this is the first time someone like ACORN has registered fake voters? Bahahaha.

This has been gone over repeatedly in previous threads. There is no significant record of voter fraud.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
So this is the first time someone like ACORN has registered fake voters? Bahahaha.

:laugh: Silly rabbit. ACORN didn't register 200,000 fake voters in Ohio.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: techs

There have been almost NO cases of actual voter fraud in this country over the last 8 years. Look it up.

So this is the first time someone like ACORN has registered fake voters? Bahahaha.

Completely separate issues. IMO, problems like ACORN is accused of is what happens when they pay the folks who go out to register people by the registration they turn in.

THAT happens here in Kahleeforneeya from time to time. Of course, the various groups here also get knocked for using folks from out of state to do the work...in violation of Kahleeforneeya laws.
They should just pay the people by the hour instead of "piece work" where they get paid more if they get more people to fill out and sign voter registration cards. THAT is what leads to the fraudulent registrations being turned in.

(fixed the quotes)

 

[Pepsei]

let's wait until after the election before you yell voter fraud..... like in FL..... why is Repubs worried? is this like a preemptive strike?

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: musicman64
Yeah, the issue being the lack of standing.

So... who would have standing? McCain or Obama?

If so, and McCain somehow closes the gap (lawl...) weeee that could fun, Florida 08!

There really is no gap in Ohio itself. It is very much a toss-up at this point.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

So this is the first time someone like ACORN has registered fake voters? Bahahaha.

So this is the first time that you are having someone explain to you that there is an enormous difference between voter registration fraud (which ACORN has been accused of and some of those hired by them have been found guilty of) and actual voter fraud (which they have never been proven to have done or even have been accused of to my knowledge)?

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jonks
You snipped out the other important part which shows what SCOTUS was looking at. It was a ruling on standing, not merits. Good for the dems either way.

The court said its ruling was not a comment on whether Ohio was complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, the ruling was based on a judgment that the law does not allow private entities - like the Ohio Republican Party - to bring the case to court.

John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis stressed that the court ruling was not a judgement on the validity of the Republican Party's case.

"If you look at what the ruling said, it said that the Republican Party didn't have standing in order to bring the suit," he told reporters on a campaign conference call. "It didn't make a decision on the merits of the case."

I think the important part is that dead voters will now get a chance to vote!

Fixed

Yay for voter fraud!

There have been almost NO cases of actual voter fraud in this country over the last 8 years. Look it up.

So this is the first time someone like ACORN has registered fake voters? Bahahaha.

Acorn submits voter registration applications. They don't actually register the voters. Anyone could submit invalid registration apps, whether it be Acorn or Joe the Plumber.

The voter registration board then has the job of verifying the application and approving only those which appear to be valid. So it doesn't matter if Acorn or Joe submitted an invalid app because it would then get thrown out if it couldn't be verified.

Acorn actually makes it easier to spot the fakes by identifying which Apps are likely fradulent. Unfortunately, by law they have to submit them all including the likely fake applications.