U.S. Stands to Lose Billions From Corporate Tax Inversions

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Oldgamer

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How much revenue does the U.S. Treasury stand to lose from corporate tax inversions? It is difficult to say precisely, but one estimate puts the figure at close to $20 billion.

A nonpartisan congressional research panel said the U.S. would receive an additional $19.46 billion over a decade if most new tax inversions were essentially halted with proposed changes to the tax code. The estimate, by researchers at the Joint Commission on Taxation, is based on estimates from previous inversions, in which U.S. companies make overseas acquisitions to gain tax advantages, and doesn't take into account deals being made now, including Mylan Inc.'s $5.3 billion stock purchase of Abbott Laboratories' overseas generic-drug business.

Calculating how much the U.S. Treasury would lose is nearly impossible because of a dearth of reliable tax data from companies' public filings and the variables in how companies can structure their businesses, tax experts say.

One way companies seek to reduce their U.S. tax bills by reincorporating overseas is to transfer pretax income from their U.S. operations to their foreign parent companies through intercompany debt, says corporate tax consultant Robert Willens.

But it is difficult to know how large of an impact that will have for a given company because of limits on how much interest companies can deduct from their taxable income. There is also a risk that companies act too aggressively attract scrutiny from the Internal Revenue Service.

Another variable is the cash many companies keep overseas to avoid U.S. taxes. The cash only becomes taxable once it is brought back to the U.S. to pay dividends to shareholders or is used for other purposes. But companies don't always disclose how much cash they bring back home or when. Some companies say they were never going to repatriate the cash anyway, so they aren't depriving the U.S. tax base of revenue by moving out of the country.

Then there is the simple difficulty of knowing how much companies pay in taxes. The effective tax rates that companies disclose in their regulatory filings give a rough approximation but may not include certain variables, including tax benefits the companies receive when employees exercise stock options, Mr. Willens says. Companies are also often engaged in tax disputes with governments where they operate that can take years to be settled and make their effective tax rates swing widely from year to year.

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Sigh after awhile this just gets old and disheartening.. "corporations are winning my friend.."
 

Texashiker

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Just print more money.

In all seriousness, 20 billion is a drop in the bucket. The federal reserve is dumping $85 billion a month into the bond market.

What is 20 billion compared to the 1 trillion the federal reserve is printing out of thin air every year?

That 20 billion in lost taxes is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Need more money, just print it.
 
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Newell Steamer

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Corporations lose billions; Increase their subsidies. Give them more tax cuts. Let them take as much tax payer dollars as needed.

Government loses billions; IMPEACH OBAMA!! Fire all of them! They are fucking morons for letting this happen!!
 

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Just print more money.

In all seriousness, 20 billion is a drop in the bucket. The federal reserve is dumping $85 billion a month into the bond market.

What is 20 billion compared to the 1 trillion the federal reserve is printing out of thin air every year?

That 20 billion in lost taxes is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Need more money, just print it.

expanding M is needed because V plummeted.
 

Harabec

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Well, this really seems like almost nothing when talking about the US gov and an entire decade, however every bit helps in the end.
The problem is that you've got to stop throwing money away on going to war - it has cost you so much and given so little to very few.

As was said in the MK84 thread, planes shooting missiles at targets quickly make $$$ evaporate along with said targets.
Think of it this way - you're taking money of out of the US gov (people's taxes) to blow things up in remote shitholes. That can't be such a good bargain.
 

theeedude

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Once enough of these pharmaceutical companies become foreign, we should address Medicare drug pricing levels. US taxpayers should not be subsidizing foreign companies.
 

Zaap

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*yawn* Just because money doesn't end up in the grubby paws of our government so they can turn into that much more debt and send "the little people" the bill doesn't mean it's "lost."

Wringing your hands over your fatcat government massa not having even more money to burn is even lamer and being a dumber tool than anyone who's wringing their hands for corporate fatcats.
 

theeedude

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*yawn* Just because money doesn't end up in the grubby paws of our government so they can turn into that much more debt and send "the little people" the bill doesn't mean it's "lost."

Wringing your hands over your fatcat government massa not having even more money to burn is even lamer and being a dumber tool than anyone who's wringing their hands for corporate fatcats.

You do realize that debt = spending - receipts?
 

Zaap

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You do realize your massa isn't actually hurting for money don't you?

Of course you don't. Back to you slaving your life away to build pharoah's monument to himself!
 

theeedude

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You do realize your massa isn't actually hurting for money don't you?

Of course you don't. Back to you slaving your life away to build pharoah's monument to himself!

Sorry, didn't realize I was talking to a blathering idiot. Proceed along.
 

1prophet

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Just have the justice department go after them like they do with personal Swiss bank accounts used to avoid paying taxes, after all aren't corporations people too.:biggrin:
 
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