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U.S. sponsorship of Sunni groups worries Iraq's government

heyheybooboo

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Officials said they planned to cap membership in the groups, called "concerned local citizens", at 100,000.

Another boondoggle policy to perpetuate war - doomed to bite us in the arse down the road ???

U.S. sponsorship of Sunni groups worries Iraq's government

It hasn't quieted criticism that the program is trading long-term Iraqi stability for short-term security gains.

"There is a danger here that we are going to have armed all three sides: the Kurds in the north, the Shiite and now the Sunni militias," said Bruce Riedel, a former CIA analyst who's now at The Brookings Institution
Well . . . . Yeahhh

In addition to their free guns and ammo the individual Sunni-militia members receive $300 a month.

Dr. Safa Hussein, Maliki's deputy national security adviser and the head of a committee tasked with reconciling Iraq's rival factions, said the government was increasingly concerned about what would take place once the United States no longer was supervising the "concerned citizens" groups closely.

"We have tens of thousands of people who are carrying weapons on a contract basis, and when their contracts are finished where will they go?" he asked. "The Ministry of Interior and Ministry of Defense can't absorb them all, and the problem is they are growing very rapidly and the Iraqi government doesn't have any control over that."

"When the U.S. leaves, what we'll have are two armies," said Sami al Askari, a Shiite lawmaker who speaks to Maliki daily. "One who's loyal to the government and one not loyal."
But the campaign also has been criticized for sanctioning armed groups that include people who were attacking American troops only months ago, a fact that Riedel said should give U.S. officials pause.

"All of these factions and all of these militias are our friends only as long as it suits their interests," he said. "At any time they can change their affiliation. Once they come to the conclusion that the Americans are leaving, then they'll start to want to see how do they want to position themselves, post-American presence in Iraq, as heroes of resistance."
Well ... Duhhh!

Okay. Let's do the math . . .

In Iraq the non-Arab Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Kurdistan Democratic Party together field around 75,000 fighters.

The Sunni local "concerned citizens" groups will number 100k and are Arab.

The U.S. State Department says Iraqi security forces total nearly 360,000 as of this month, with the Army itself consisting of 200k troops. Who knows what troops are loyal peshmerga under the command of the Kurdish regional government? Who knows the capabilty level of the remaining security forces? Improvements have been made but we have to assume that at least one-half is level 3 or below.

Not to mention Shia militia infiltration.

This is insane!







 

GrGr

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Yep, the Times (British) said the US now has Al Qaeda fighters on it's "concerned local citizen" (<--- lmao what a ridiculous psy op name) payroll. More US tax dollars at work.

Remember a while back when every second word Bush said was "Al Qaeda in Iraq". Well looks like if you cant beat them you can buy them (at least for now).

But there is method to the madness. The US has reverted to the tried and true technique of letting the local tribes fight the local tribes. That is then labeled "progress".


 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: GrGr
Yep, the Times (British) said the US now has Al Qaeda fighters on it's "concerned local citizen" (<--- lmao what a ridiculous psy op name) payroll. More US tax dollars at work.

Remember a while back when every second word Bush said was "Al Qaeda in Iraq". Well looks like if you cant beat them you can buy them (at least for now).

But there is method to the madness. The US has reverted to the tried and true technique of letting the local tribes fight the local tribes. That is then labeled "progress".
I had to snicker at "concerned local citizen", too. I guess "armed Sunni militia on the US Gov't dole" wouldn't fit on the business card.



 

Lemon law

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In the New democratic Iraq, the Sunni 20% of the population sect is somewhat he big losers. Demoted from the ass kickers under Saddam, they are somewhat trying a rear gaurd operation to not become the new kickees as the Kurds and the Shia who used to hate them for very valid reasons, now out number them four to one.

I don't know where this precise number of 77,452 came from, but in a Sunni Iraqi population of about five million, thats a paltry 1.51% of just that Sunni group.

And in terms of ethnic cleansing, its the Sunnis that have disproportion ally paid the price.
 

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Wow, I literally just said this yesterday; that the alliances we're forming seem to be out of convenience with not enough weight toward long-term consequences. i.e. this is the CIA arming OBL and Afghan militants in the 80's to fight Soviets all over again.

Let's pray that clusterfuck isn't repeated here.
 

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