U.S. shuts Web site said to reveal nuclear guide

[strummer]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

The reports were written in Arabic. They posted the documents and asked for people who spoke the language on the net to help translate them. There are literally TONS of Iraq documents that they can not translate fast enough to make use of them.

This is surreal. Make use of them how? For political gain or to protect the country. BushCo released the documents as a Hail Mary pass to try and prop up the flagging public support for Iraq War / Occupation fiasco. Do you see the irony in what you wrote?

Here's a thought - If you don't have enough CIA researchers to vet the documents get some more. Yes that's it - use whatever resources necessary to properly protect the country - who is going to argue with that. Need to draft Arabic reading Americans to help to do it correctly - that would suck - but do it anyway. How about maybe getting some help from your allies - the British, German, Japanese, French, Russian, Turk, Israelis, Icelanders, Canadian, Australian, whatever. Just make sure you practice document control by vetting and inventorying the stuff at Langley, and not releasing anything until they were sure what it contained. How fvcking hard would that have been.

Suppose the documents contained Iraqi counterintelligence information such as the names of undercover American operatives? Do you think maybe the Iranians, Chinese - hell just about any foreign government - wouldn't like to get their hands on that information. Or how about the documents contained information regarding IRAN - you know - the long time enemy of Saddam. Saddam was obseesed with the Iranians - think he had any information regarding them on file? Think maybe that information might be useful to us right about now? Still think we should've just dumped this potentially tremendous asset - yes this spoil of war - out there for the world to see?

This is such a collosal blunder (yet again). By defending them - You guys are taking your already firmly entrenched cognitive dissonance to dizzying new heights.

Spin away my friend.

 

[XMan]

http://www.iraqdocs.blogspot.com/

 

[CaptnKirk]

Most of the information is public record from any physics lab at any college or university in the country or even
from other universities throughout the world.
The REAL challenge is in the engineering approaches taken to make it work - that's not on the sites,
so those who wish to proceed have to figure it out for themselves - the really hard practical application.

 

[conjur]

Let's look at how this info got out there and other related stories:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/04/world...html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

Two weeks before the government shut down a Web site holding an archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war, scientists at an American weapons laboratory complained that papers on the site contained sensitive nuclear information, federal officials said yesterday. Two documents were quickly removed.

The Bush administration set up the Web site last March at the urging of Congressional Republicans, who said giving public access to materials from the 48,000 boxes of documents found in Iraq could increase the understanding of the danger posed by Saddam Hussein.

But among the documents posted were roughly a dozen that nuclear weapons experts said constituted a basic guide to building an atom bomb. They were accounts of Mr. Hussein?s nuclear program, which United Nations inspectors dismantled after the 1991 Persian Gulf war.

The site was shut down on Thursday night after The New York Times asked questions about the disclosure of nuclear information and complaints that experts had raised. Yesterday, federal officials said they were conducting a review to understand better how and when the warnings had originated and how the bureaucracy had responded.

Yesterday, on NBC, Andrew Card confirmed the WH's role in publishing the documents and NBC also reported John "Death Squads" Negroponte was protesting their publication online.


Representative Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) and Senator Pat Roberts (R-KS) originally argued for the need to publicize the documents in the hopes of leveraging the internet to find evidence of WMD in Iraq.

"We are proposing that you immediately develop a process to, consistent with necessary security guidelines... release these documents to the general public. At minimum, this public assistance could 'point' the Intelligence Community to the small subset of information that is likely to be of importance... This proposal takes risk, but we believe it is manageable risk"

Frat-Boy refused to pull down the docs even when the IAEA protested that the information within could help rogue states like Iran develop nuclear weapons.


Drug Dealer Had U.S. Nuclear Secrets
http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2006/10/drug_dealer_had_us_nuclear_sec.html

Classified information stolen years ago from a major government-owned nuclear laboratory with a history of serious security breaches was accidentally found in a drug dealer?s mobile home.

The computer disks containing nuclear secrets belong to the nation?s leading nuclear weapons lab, Los Alamos National Laboratory, and were first reported stolen in 2004. At the time, frantic authorities closed the New Mexico facility to search for the missing disks. Days later, they claimed it was all mistake because the disks never existed.

This week the ?nonexistent? classified disks surfaced during a New Mexico police department?s search of a drug-dealer?s mobile home. The man, also charged with domestic violence, got the top-secret information from a woman who is a contract employee at the Los Alamos National Laboratory.

This is just the latest of many embarrassing incidents for the lab, which has seen numerous other security lapses, theft, and fraud through the years. In fact, the Energy Department has labeled the facility ?a systematic management failure.? Regardless, the U.S. Government renewed the contract of the failing managers, the University of California, a few years ago for $512 million

Add in the recent announcement by 6 Arab nations of intentions to pursue nuclear weapons (including 3 countries that were home to the 9/11 hijackers) and we have one HELLACIOUS set of national security breaches going on under this administration and where is it in the media? Hmmm??? We're still hearing about the "Kerry gaffe" for fvck's sake!!!!

 

[conjur]

Neocon Weekly Standard reported in March on push to get docs out into the public:

Who'll Let the Docs Out?
Bush wants to release the Saddam files but his intelligence chief stalls.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/P...Articles/000/000/011/945usqnx.asp?pg=1

Hoekstra was pushing hard to get the docs published so the whole world could see sensitive nuclear technology.

This also flies in the face of Dan Bartlett's lies this morning that the admin didn't override the intel community's objections.

 

[Horus]

Originally posted by: XMan
Same as this one?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world...1d6b3da302d4f&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Interesting little tidbit buried in the article . . .

"Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990?s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein?s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."

Iraq had a nuclear weapons program . . . and was on the verge of building a bomb? But . . . but . . . but . . . Bush lied! :Q I am shocked, shocked I tell you!

Oh, I highly doubt that they were actually building a nuke. That's a -tad- bit too complex for them to do, methinks.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
So...according to the New York Times own article, Saddam was only a year away from making a nuke in 2002.

No, just according to people who have the reading comprehension skills of very small children. Read the article again, it is VERY clear that the documents reference Saddam's capabilities PRIOR TO THE FIRST GULF WAR.

Also note that it's a diversion from the real story, that the Bush administration published sensitive nuclear weapons information on the Internet purely for partisan gain. We all know how they'd be shrieking had someone on the left done this.

 

[Oblivionaire]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
I already know how to make a nuclear bomb, and this site doesn't get taken down:

http://www.worldnewsstand.net/4fun/bigbang.htm

hehe that is hilarious!