U.S. Senate passes bill 97-2 to take Russian sanctions-easing powers away from Trump

yllus

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I would submit that the near unanimity of this bill passing in the U.S. Senate is a point of major significance for anyone still stating that Trump and others in his WH administration aren't acting oddly - or at least far too cozy - with Russian actors. Federal legislators on both sides are recognizing that Trump can't be trusted to make good decisions for America where Russia is concerned.

Politco - Senate overwhelmingly passes Russia sanctions deal with new limits on Trump

The Senate on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan package of new Russia sanctions that also lets Congress block President Donald Trump from easing or ending penalties against Moscow, the year’s most significant GOP-imposed restriction on the White House.

The 97-2 vote on the Russia sanctions plan capped a week of talks that demonstrated cross-aisle collaboration that’s become increasingly rare as Trump and the GOP push to repeal Obamacare without any Democratic votes. Senators merged the sanctions package with a bipartisan Iran sanctions bill that’s on track for passage as soon as this week, complicating the politics of any future veto threat from the Trump administration.

“It’s particularly significant that a bipartisan coalition is seeking to reestablish Congress, not the president, as the final arbiter of sanctions relief, considering that this administration has been too eager — far too eager, in my mind — to put sanctions relief on the table,” Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who pressed hard for the strongest possible anti-Russia bill, said in a floor speech. “These additional sanctions will also send a powerful, bipartisan statement that Russia and any other nation who might try to interfere with our elections will be punished.”

But the Senate’s deal faces a murky future in the House and with the White House, which has yet to say where it stands on congressional review of sanctions that would tie Trump’s hands on future relations with Vladimir Putin’s government.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson declined to endorse the deal for a second straight day on Wednesday while emphasizing the importance of “a constructive dialogue” with Russia. Although “Russia must be held accountable for its meddling in U.S. elections,” Tillerson told House Foreign Affairs Committee members, “I would urge Congress to ensure any legislation allows the president to have the flexibility to adjust sanctions to meet the needs of what is always an evolving diplomatic situation.”

Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), a leading negotiator of the sanctions deal and a Tillerson ally, said earlier this week that he believed the legislation would get Trump’s signature. Democrats, however, are also wary of House GOP attempts to change their popular, bipartisan agreement to punish Putin.​
 

Zorba

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At 97-2 in the Senate and assuming it gets all dems and half of republicans in the house, it doesn't matter what the WH thinks about it because it'll be veto proof.
 

bshole

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At 97-2 in the Senate and assuming it gets all dems and half of republicans in the house, it doesn't matter what the WH thinks about it because it'll be veto proof.

Yea they can agree on this. Just like they will agree to repeal the estate tax on billionaires. The middle and lower classes have been so fucked in past six months and the train wreck is accelerating. The Senate will NEVER EVER vote for anything that remotely approaches removing the influence of corporate money from politics. It has been this which has devastated America over the past few decades, not Russian meddling.
 

Younigue

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This action was wrongheaded and stupid. We must make reach out to Russia not shun it.

We need to shun China, however for their numerous actions against their neighbors and attempts to assert military control over disputed waters.
You love your country, we get it (but it's a dark and dirty kind of love). Your leader is a sick man, with hate in his heart and soul and has no good planned for anyone but himself and a select few. You're a servant' Servants are often treated the worst because they stay close (uhhmmm *clearing my throat* loving your abuser requires psychological assistance) while the people your leader intends to hurt the most make them jump through hoops to do so.
 

trenchfoot

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For once history repeating itself may be a good thing.

The interesting thing for me will be how Trump's loyalists will try to blame the Dems for this legislation that all but two Repubs voted in favor of.

Or is this the tipping point where even Trump's zealots start to abandon his Yacht of Fairy Tale Dreams?
 

FelixDeCat

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For once history repeating itself may be a good thing.

The interesting thing for me will be how Trump's loyalists will try to blame the Dems for this legislation that all but two Repubs voted in favor of.

Or is this the tipping point where even Trump's zealots start to abandon his Yacht of Fairy Tale Dreams?

Don't worry this will get voted down in the House. We will make peace with Russians, not unnecessary sanction.
 

zinfamous

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We should reach out to Russia not shun it.

I don't disagree--but Russia needs to stop illegally invading countries and sabotaging democratic elections in the west--you know, including our own. LoL--"Hey, that kinda sucked that you compromised our elections and all that, but we're cool."

You can't be serious. :D

You simply don't understand politics.

lol. says Richard Milhouse Nixon. :D
 

HomerJS

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Don't worry this will get voted down in the House. We will make peace with Russians, not unnecessary sanction.
Where do you live? Let's have someone break into your house. You will reach out to them and call for no punishment.
 

K1052

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Congress seems to be slowly (if reluctantly) finding it's collective balls after basically decades of abdicating authority to the executive.
 
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So who were the 2 "no" votes??

Rand Paul and some dude from Utah, however I heard both were at the baseball practice and their votes may have been delayed because of the shooting. I'm not sure if they actually voted no or it was some kind of Parliamentary thing that made their votes appear no. I'm not sure either of no vote guys were in the building.

Regardless, this is Congress acting they way it should and I appreciate this vote and its result.
 

zinfamous

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Rand Paul and some dude from Utah, however I heard both were at the baseball practice and their votes may have been delayed because of the shooting. I'm not sure if they actually voted no or it was some kind of Parliamentary thing that made their votes appear no. I'm not sure either of no vote guys were in the building.

Regardless, this is Congress acting they way it should and I appreciate this vote and its result.

Interesting. Rand Paul voting no on this actually surprised me.
 
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K1052

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Rand Paul and some dude from Utah, however I heard both were at the baseball practice and their votes may have been delayed because of the shooting. I'm not sure if they actually voted no or it was some kind of Parliamentary thing that made their votes appear no. I'm not sure either of no vote guys were in the building.

Regardless, this is Congress acting they way it should and I appreciate this vote and its result.

I'm mostly sure Rand Paul votes no on everything because Rand Paul.
 
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