U.S. rebukes first Russian airstrike in Syria

Jaskalas

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Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, and Syria have entered into a powerful Middle East alliance. Their objective is power, and security. To defeat ISIS and stop US arming of terrorists.

If we'd stop arming terrorists, we could have a seat at the table.
Learn the lesson of Iraq you retarded US leaders. Assad is the only answer just as Saddam was. Stop repeating the same mistakes.
 

nakedfrog

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I see the part in the article about the one-hour notice before the airstrikes, but I don't see where he told the US to get out of Syria, or "slapped Obama".
 

VRAMdemon

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Lol..Putin didn't "slap" Obama. The US won't get anywhere with token involvement. Training troops didn't do much good in Iraq. They mostly deserted and took their training to enemy factions. We shouldn't be there.

If Russia gets involved, let them. They'll have another Afghanistan to suck them dry like a mutant tick. Anti-Assad forces will buy obsolete weapons from other countries, so the Russians will have to spend resources to arm Assad. When the Soviets gained control of Afghanistan, they took control of the major urban centers and strategic military bases. Instead of paralyzing the Afghans, it united them in nationalistic pride and made them resort to guerilla warfare. Meanwhile, assuming command of the war front inspired the Afghan army to desert, mainly because the Soviets made them fight as infantry while they manned the tanks. This led the Soviets to rely on air strikes and intimidation to quell rebellions, which drew universal scorn from the rest of the world. Soviet troops occupying Afghanistan were subject to ambushes and sneak attacks, because the Afghans just wouldn't lay down for them.

Right now, the Russians are already stretched for resources due to trade embargos and sanctions. They're also identified as being atheists, which inspires the Muslims to fight godless Infidels. Unlike Odessa, there's very little pro-Russian sentiment among the Syrians, so they're going to have a costly time maintaining control if they ever manage to establish it. There's no way Russia is going to establish a power base in Syria given all these factors.

So if Vladimir Putin wants to get involved in Syria full throttle, let him. Things won't pan out like Ukraine, and soon even his most delusional, mindless supporter at home or abroad will realize what a true PHUCK UP Putin really is. One dictator throwing away blood and treasure to prop up an even more brutal dictator.
 

Jaskalas

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A mistake for Russia? How can an Alliance between Syria, Iraq, and Iran to compete against the Saudis be anything but a boon for whoever holds that card?
 

Jaskalas

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Good let Russia take the hits and inspire ISIS wannabes attention.

Only failures who play policeman inspire ISIS "wannabes". A brutal military machine that actually does killings, they inspire fear and servitude. Just ask Mosul. If Russia is stupid they will do it "our" way and fail as you expect. If Russia is smart, they'll do it Assad's way.

Time will tell.
 

maddogchen

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i like how Syria, Iran, Iraq and Russia are coordinating the efforts from Iraq. That is why there was a Russian diplomat who drove from the joint headquarters to the US embassy in Iraq to inform the US about the imminent bombings. LOL

Anyway, the US still continued to hit targets in Aleppo so they ignored the warnings.

But in the end, I think the Syria, Iran, Iraq and Russia will win and the rebels are doomed in Syria. Maybe the Syrian Kurds will be too. And ISIS will still continue in Iraq.
 

Blackjack200

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I don't imagine we can get away with selling Stinger missiles to the rebels, so it probably won't be another Afghanistan.
 

ivwshane

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I see the part in the article about the one-hour notice before the airstrikes, but I don't see where he told the US to get out of Syria, or "slapped Obama".

That's because you weren't wearing your right wing decoder glasses;)
 
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i like how Syria, Iran, Iraq and Russia are coordinating the efforts from Iraq. That is why there was a Russian diplomat who drove from the joint headquarters to the US embassy in Iraq to inform the US about the imminent bombings. LOL

Anyway, the US still continued to hit targets in Aleppo so they ignored the warnings.

But in the end, I think the Syria, Iran, Iraq and Russia will win and the rebels are doomed in Syria. Maybe the Syrian Kurds will be too. And ISIS will still continue in Iraq.

That's ok with me I'm sure we can fly the 4 or 5 trusted and US trained fighters somewhere safe.
 

Genx87

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Lol..Putin didn't "slap" Obama. The US won't get anywhere with token involvement. Training troops didn't do much good in Iraq. They mostly deserted and took their training to enemy factions. We shouldn't be there.

If Russia gets involved, let them. They'll have another Afghanistan to suck them dry like a mutant tick. Anti-Assad forces will buy obsolete weapons from other countries, so the Russians will have to spend resources to arm Assad. When the Soviets gained control of Afghanistan, they took control of the major urban centers and strategic military bases. Instead of paralyzing the Afghans, it united them in nationalistic pride and made them resort to guerilla warfare. Meanwhile, assuming command of the war front inspired the Afghan army to desert, mainly because the Soviets made them fight as infantry while they manned the tanks. This led the Soviets to rely on air strikes and intimidation to quell rebellions, which drew universal scorn from the rest of the world. Soviet troops occupying Afghanistan were subject to ambushes and sneak attacks, because the Afghans just wouldn't lay down for them.

Right now, the Russians are already stretched for resources due to trade embargos and sanctions. They're also identified as being atheists, which inspires the Muslims to fight godless Infidels. Unlike Odessa, there's very little pro-Russian sentiment among the Syrians, so they're going to have a costly time maintaining control if they ever manage to establish it. There's no way Russia is going to establish a power base in Syria given all these factors.

So if Vladimir Putin wants to get involved in Syria full throttle, let him. Things won't pan out like Ukraine, and soon even his most delusional, mindless supporter at home or abroad will realize what a true PHUCK UP Putin really is. One dictator throwing away blood and treasure to prop up an even more brutal dictator.

ISIS doesn't need to buy obsolete arms when they can just overrun Iraqi units and take their US built and supplied weapons.
 

Jhhnn

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That's because you weren't wearing your right wing decoder glasses;)

Ain't it the truth. I've tried putting 'em on a couple of times, just to understand why some people like 'em so much. Couldn't see shit, but I could hear the voice of Rush coming thru the built in miniature radio telling me what I'm supposed to see.
 

JockoJohnson

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So no one noticed the part in the article where Russia may have bombed rebels against Syria as opposed to ISIS? Rebels that are considered our allies.
 

Genx87

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So no one noticed the part in the article where Russia may have bombed rebels against Syria as opposed to ISIS? Rebels that are considered our allies.

How did the Russians find those 60 guys we trained? Or whatever is left of them since most recently defected with their weapons to AQ.
 

ivwshane

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So no one noticed the part in the article where Russia may have bombed rebels against Syria as opposed to ISIS? Rebels that are considered our allies.

I think calling them our allies might be a little strong.

We don't really have a lot of options here. To over simplify things the choice is between supporting Assad or ISIS or ignoring it all.
 
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So no one noticed the part in the article where Russia may have bombed rebels against Syria as opposed to ISIS? Rebels that are considered our allies.

Yes but one correction. Fighters who are against ISIS. This does not mean they are our allies, especially if they were in power.
 
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How did the Russians find those 60 guys we trained? Or whatever is left of them since most recently defected with their weapons to AQ.

Correction its 4 or 5 US trained guys.
I'm not kidding a defense department guy said it was 4 or 5 US trained fighters in Syria last week.
 

Sonikku

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Best line in Rambo 3 is when the colonel laughs in the face of the Russian bag guy based in Afghanistan, remarking how America already learned its lesson in Vietnam.

:D
 

Jaskalas

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Best line in Rambo 3 is when the colonel laughs in the face of the Russian bag guy based in Afghanistan, remarking how America already learned its lesson in Vietnam.

:D

And it'd be nice if America DID learn its lessons.
The Iraq mistake should have taught us to support Assad.
 

Indus

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Putin loves making obama a fool on the world stage. Low hanging fruit.

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You're such an idiot. There's nothing for us in Syria and you really think helping in Syria will change hearts and minds to stop Islamic people from saying "Death to America".

The only way to safeguard America is to not play "occupy a foreign land". This has been learned by the Russian occupation of Afghanistan and our occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam.

Who's the one really getting slapped? Russia because they have had an economic collapse and the only way Putin can hold on to power is to act like a bully on the world stage and preach nationalism.

Rightwingers love doing that and love measuring dicks in this way but it does nothing except cost us dollars and limbs. Haven't we learned enough from the wars we fought already? I guess not for some idiots with an IQ south of 0 like you.
 

kage69

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That might put Turkey back to being a little more cooperative, they want Assad gone as much as the Gulf states.

Russia is asking for another Afghanistan, no way their planes are going to just continue on with no response from the ground.