U.S. public should wake up, stop this immoral war in Iraq

dmcowen674

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1-29-2004 U.S. public should wake up, stop this immoral war in Iraq

Recently, the president said, in essence, that there is no difference in having WMD or just having the intent of creating WMD.

We went to war for the wrong reasons. Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists. We have not eliminated terrorism by capturing Saddam Hussein. Oops, wrong man! Bin Laden is still pulling the strings and we, our government and our people, are dancing like puppets.

Have a good dance.

Elizabeth Patsis

Mount Airy

 

Rilescat

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Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.


Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.


Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?


terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.

 
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I think we all agree that Elizabeth Patsis of Mount Airy is the ultimate authority on Mid East Politics and will all take this proclamation of hers to heart.

Thanks so much dmcowen.
 
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.

Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?

terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.

Ah...it's so simple then...just remove desperation. Here I'll just snap my fingers and it will all be gone.






There. Now we don't have to worry about it any more.
 

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.

Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?

terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.

Ah...it's so simple then...just remove desperation. Here I'll just snap my fingers and it will all be gone.






There. Now we don't have to worry about it any more.


WOOT!!!! HOP for President - he's the only one who has defeated terrorism.:p

Oh and the link gets a
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CkG
 

Rilescat

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.


Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?


terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.


So if we give them money, food, and the good comforts of life they will stop hating Isreal and sit down and love everything? Well HELL, I have a Big Mac I could share right now!
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.

Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?

terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.

Ah...it's so simple then...just remove desperation. Here I'll just snap my fingers and it will all be gone.






There. Now we don't have to worry about it any more.

I was hoping you could think this for yourself, here is a little help, a little obvios question though. What causes people to become despirate? what makes it so that people see terrorism as the short way out of a problem?
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Rilescat
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.


Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?


terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.


So if we give them money, food, and the good comforts of life they will stop hating Isreal and sit down and love everything? Well HELL, I have a Big Mac I could share right now!

thats the ticket, but not just give, there must be a way for people to independant of aid from other countries.

The fight should be about getting the early recruits to terrorist orgs. to join your fight instead of the terrorist fight. That and along with minor operations against the heads of the groups would be the best way. If you only fight terorrism with force or have force be the focus point of the battle against terorrism then you will kill and hurt bystanders who have families who at that moment care more about their relatives than the fight against terorrism. They will act irrational if they are desperate, they will most likely want revange on those who hurt their family. They will be more willing to join the terrorist groups than not.
 
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.

Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?

terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.

Ah...it's so simple then...just remove desperation. Here I'll just snap my fingers and it will all be gone.






There. Now we don't have to worry about it any more.

I was hoping you could think this for yourself, here is a little help, a little obvios question though. What causes people to become despirate? what makes it so that people see terrorism as the short way out of a problem?

I think people become des pirates because they like the open sea and like playing with swords and wearing eyepatches and such. But I'm open to other explanations.
 

Czar

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wow, just read the article, its so badly written, the point is there but it just gets lost
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I was hoping you could think this for yourself, here is a little help, a little obvios question though. What causes people to become despirate? what makes it so that people see terrorism as the short way out of a problem?

I think people become des pirates because they like the open sea and like playing with swords and wearing eyepatches and such. But I'm open to other explanations.[/quote]
so you are not willing to make the efford of finding the source of the problem?
 
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I was hoping you could think this for yourself, here is a little help, a little obvios question though. What causes people to become despirate? what makes it so that people see terrorism as the short way out of a problem?

I think people become des pirates because they like the open sea and like playing with swords and wearing eyepatches and such. But I'm open to other explanations.
so you are not willing to make the efford of finding the source of the problem?[/quote]

Sure, I'll google it right after I google "What is the meaning of life". But if you already know the answer, I suggest you articulate it on paper and publish it...the Nobel Prize is waiting.
 

Rilescat

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.


Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?


terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.


So if we give them money, food, and the good comforts of life they will stop hating Isreal and sit down and love everything? Well HELL, I have a Big Mac I could share right now!

thats the ticket, but not just give, there must be a way for people to independant of aid from other countries.

The fight should be about getting the early recruits to terrorist orgs. to join your fight instead of the terrorist fight. That and along with minor operations against the heads of the groups would be the best way. If you only fight terorrism with force or have force be the focus point of the battle against terorrism then you will kill and hurt bystanders who have families who at that moment care more about their relatives than the fight against terorrism. They will act irrational if they are desperate, they will most likely want revange on those who hurt their family. They will be more willing to join the terrorist groups than not.


No, you are confusing desperation with hatred. Osama Bin Laden is a millionaire that grew up in a millionaire's family, as have many of the high ranking Kuwaiti, Saudi, Iraq, and Syrian terrorists. What are they desperate for? Nothing you can provide them. If you want to know what they are desperate for, then go look at the history of the newly formed Isreal. Perhaps right around May 14th 1948.
 

Corn

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Dave, are you that hard up for attention and padding your post count that you feel it's necessary to start posting letters to the editor of your local newspaper?

How pathetic is that?
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Rilescat
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists.


Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?


terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.


So if we give them money, food, and the good comforts of life they will stop hating Isreal and sit down and love everything? Well HELL, I have a Big Mac I could share right now!

thats the ticket, but not just give, there must be a way for people to independant of aid from other countries.

The fight should be about getting the early recruits to terrorist orgs. to join your fight instead of the terrorist fight. That and along with minor operations against the heads of the groups would be the best way. If you only fight terorrism with force or have force be the focus point of the battle against terorrism then you will kill and hurt bystanders who have families who at that moment care more about their relatives than the fight against terorrism. They will act irrational if they are desperate, they will most likely want revange on those who hurt their family. They will be more willing to join the terrorist groups than not.


No, you are confusing desperation with hatred. Osama Bin Laden is a millionaire that grew up in a millionaire's family, as have many of the high ranking Kuwaiti, Saudi, Iraq, and Syrian terrorists. What are they desperate for? Nothing you can provide them. If you want to know what they are desperate for, then go look at the history of the newly formed Isreal. Perhaps right around May 14th 1948.

its not about the heads, they have their own twisted goal, it is their support from the general population that is most important because without their support the heads can do very little when they become hated in the country they are in. Hatred is always a result from something.

 
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Terrorism cannot be fought with troops, it must be fought with brains, knowledge and insight into what prompts the terrorists./Q]

Do you believe military force is inappropriate to fight terrorists? As for the insight into what prompts terrorists, how do propose to figure this out, or solve it?

terrorism is for the most part a result from despiration, remove that then you have done more in the fight against terrorism then any military operation could have done.

So if we give them money, food, and the good comforts of life they will stop hating Isreal and sit down and love everything? Well HELL, I have a Big Mac I could share right now!
thats the ticket, but not just give, there must be a way for people to independant of aid from other countries.

The fight should be about getting the early recruits to terrorist orgs. to join your fight instead of the terrorist fight. That and along with minor operations against the heads of the groups would be the best way. If you only fight terorrism with force or have force be the focus point of the battle against terorrism then you will kill and hurt bystanders who have families who at that moment care more about their relatives than the fight against terorrism. They will act irrational if they are desperate, they will most likely want revange on those who hurt their family. They will be more willing to join the terrorist groups than not.

No, you are confusing desperation with hatred. Osama Bin Laden is a millionaire that grew up in a millionaire's family, as have many of the high ranking Kuwaiti, Saudi, Iraq, and Syrian terrorists. What are they desperate for? Nothing you can provide them. If you want to know what they are desperate for, then go look at the history of the newly formed Isreal. Perhaps right around May 14th 1948.
its not about the heads, they have their own twisted goal, it is their support from the general population that is most important because without their support the heads can do very little when they become hated in the country they are in. Hatred is always a result from something.

Pain leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Corn
Dave, are you that hard up for attention and padding your post count that you feel it's necessary to start posting letters to the editor of your local newspaper?

How pathetic is that?

Easier than looking for a job ;)
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


Pain leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
Suffering leads to Doobage, Doobage leads to the Munchies, the Munchies lead to Obesity, Obesity leads to Atkins Diet, Atkins Diet leads to inane thread about it over on OT!:)

 

Corn

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Suffering leads to Doobage, Doobage leads to the Munchies, the Munchies lead to Obesity, Obesity leads to Atkins Diet, Atkins Diet leads to inane thread about it over on OT!:)

You are wise Yodawn
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


Pain leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
Suffering leads to Doobage, Doobage leads to the Munchies, the Munchies lead to Obesity, Obesity leads to Atkins Diet, Atkins Diet leads to inane thread about it over on OT!:)

:D
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Corn
Dave, are you that hard up for attention and padding your post count that you feel it's necessary to start posting letters to the editor of your local newspaper?

How pathetic is that?

Certainly less pathetic than your comment. And you should be ashamed of yourself for being impressed by post count and your need for attention.
 

Corn

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And you should be ashamed of yourself for being impressed by post count.........


:confused:

I wonder whatever gave you the impression that post count impressed me. Must have been the "how pathetic" part.
rolleye.gif
 

Corn

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Oh, BTW Moonie, emulating what you (supposedly) hate isn't very becoming. I guess those principles still play 2nd fiddle to your base nature.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Corn
And you should be ashamed of yourself for being impressed by post count.........


:confused:

I wonder whatever gave you the impression that post count impressed me. Must have been the "how pathetic" part.
rolleye.gif

No need to wonder. The fact that you wold use it as a put down, and the fact that I irritate you sufficiently, just by bringing it up, that you needed to respond means you are hooked on it. The things we have contempt for are how we fear urselves to be. We are what we fear. You are affected by post count doubtlessly much more than Dave. It's these little unpleasant facts that make truth so hard to see. You have an advantage though that will work for you and bring you very far. You are honest and so you will be forced, I'm afraid, to agree. Trust in the force, Corn.