U.S. Mint seizes priceless coins

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PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (AP) -- The U.S. Mint seized 10 Double Eagle gold coins from 1933, among the rarest and most valuable coins in the world, that were turned in by a jeweler seeking to determine their authenticity.

Joan S. Langbord plans a federal court lawsuit to try to recover them, her attorney, Barry H. Berke, said Wednesday. Langbord found the coins among the possessions of her father, longtime Philadelphia jeweler Israel Switt, who had acknowledged having sold some of the coins decades ago. She now operates her father's business.

David Lebryk, acting director of the Mint, had announced in a news release that the rare coins, which were never put in circulation, had been taken from the Mint "in an unlawful manner" in the mid-1930's and now were "recovered."

The coins, which are so rare that their value is almost beyond calculation, are public property, he said.

But Berke said Mint officials couldn't prove the coins had been stolen, or were subject to forfeiture.

In 2002, Sotheby's and numismatic firm Stack's auctioned off a 1933 Double Eagle coin for $7.59 million, the highest price ever paid for a coin. That Double Eagle, which is believed to have been part of a collection belonging to King Farouk of Egypt, surfaced when a coin dealer tried selling it to undercover Secret Service agents.

After a legal battle, the dealer was permitted to sell the coin at auction on the condition he split the proceeds with the Mint.

In its statement, the Mint said officials were still deciding what they would do with the seized coins, which are being held at a military fort. They said they had no plans to auction them but would consider saving "these historical artifacts" for public exhibits. Other double eagle coins seized in the past were melted down.

Double Eagles were first minted in 1850 with a face value of $20. The 445,500 coins minted in 1933 were never put into circulation because the U.S. went off the gold standard. All the coins were ordered melted down, but a handful are believed to have survived, including two handed over to the Smithsonian Institution.

Langbord declined to discuss how the coins might have come into the possession of her father, who operated an antiques and jewelry shop for 70 years and died in 1990 at 95.

The Mint contends Switt obtained a cache of the gold coins from his connections at the Mint just before they were to be reduced to bullion in 1937.

Switt admitted in 1944 that he had sold nine Double Eagle coins, but he was not charged in connection with those transactions, according to the Mint.

The family attorney said the coins were found recently, and Langbord and her son, Roy, notified the Mint of the discovery in September. Mint officials asked to authenticate the coins, then confiscated them after doing so, Berke said.

He contended Langbord and her son never relinquished their right to the coins.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/25/rare.coins.ap/index.html?section=cnn_topstories
 

MustISO

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Those people will (SHOULD) win their suit. I mean really. That's just a big pile of crap.
 

sygyzy

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That sucks that they got tricked.

Mint - Hey, can we check out those nifty coins? Yeah, we'lll tell you if they're legit
Family - Sure
Mint - You suckas just got served!
 

kranky

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The situation is complicated. The Mint insists the coins could never have been obtained legally. The owners cannot prove they were legitimately obtained. Neither side can really prove they are right.

Those coins would be easily worth $1 million each.

This will drag on for years in court, since the family has nothing to lose and millions to gain. They had to expect that the Mint would not return the coins, since the government has been seizing them since the mid-1930's whenever one appeared. So it's not as though the family was surprised the coins were not returned.
 

Bozono

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Now this is one of those times where they should've used the internet for research before acting. Furthermore, why would you submit all 10 instead of just one?
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: kranky
The situation is complicated. The Mint insists the coins could never have been obtained legally. The owners cannot prove they were legitimately obtained. Neither side can really prove they are right.

Those coins would be easily worth $1 million each.

This will drag on for years in court, since the family has nothing to lose and millions to gain. They had to expect that the Mint would not return the coins, since the government has been seizing them since the mid-1930's whenever one appeared. So it's not as though the family was surprised the coins were not returned.


Your $1M estimate is clearly way off. To that effect, these coins would easily be worth $1 each.

And the family has a lot to lose. Going to court is not cheap.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: MustISO
Those people will (SHOULD) win their suit. I mean really. That's just a big pile of crap.

It's stolen property. The '33 double eagles were all destroyed except for some that were stolen. Only a single coin was authorized by the mint (because it was in the possesion of Anwar Sadat when he was killed). All the rest are illegal to posses and you can actually be charged with possession of stolen property for having them.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: kranky
The situation is complicated. The Mint insists the coins could never have been obtained legally. The owners cannot prove they were legitimately obtained. Neither side can really prove they are right.

Those coins would be easily worth $1 million each.

This will drag on for years in court, since the family has nothing to lose and millions to gain. They had to expect that the Mint would not return the coins, since the government has been seizing them since the mid-1930's whenever one appeared. So it's not as though the family was surprised the coins were not returned.
Are they not innocent until proven guilty?
 

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: kranky
The situation is complicated. The Mint insists the coins could never have been obtained legally. The owners cannot prove they were legitimately obtained. Neither side can really prove they are right.
Are they not innocent until proven guilty?
Not if they possess coins that could never have been obtained legally
 

kranky

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Originally posted by: Bozono
Now this is one of those times where they should've used the internet for research before acting. Furthermore, why would you submit all 10 instead of just one?

The family knew exactly what they had. Their ancestor was known to have sold some 1933 Double Eagles in the 1930's, and in fact the Secret Service seized some from old Izzy Switt at that time.

As to why they would submit all 10, who knows. Maybe their lawyer has something up his sleeve and it's part of their strategy. Maybe they have another 50 of them.

Originally posted by: sygyzy
Your $1M estimate is clearly way off. To that effect, these coins would easily be worth $1 each.

And the family has a lot to lose. Going to court is not cheap.

Not sure what you mean about my estimate being way off. And if their lawyer is taking their case on contingency, and feels he can win, well, even 10% of the value of the coins would be worth plenty.