U.S. Jets buzz Iran airspace

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n...e.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42225

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WASHINGTON ? U.S. military warplanes flew over Iranian air space, raising Tehran's concerns preparations are being made to knock out its nuclear facilities, according to Iranian news media reports.

The U.S. jets reportedly flew out of bases in Afghanistan and Iraq, with the latest coming Saturday when a fighter buzzed at low altitude an area in the northeastern province of Khorrasan, which borders Afghanistan.

Other reports of overflights cited intrusions by F-16 and F-18 fighters over the southwestern province of Khuzestan, which borders southern Iraq. Papers said the planes appeared to be spying on nuclear sites.

The U.S. military was silent on the veracity of the reports. However, one source said he would not be surprised if the reports were accurate, given the building international tensions over the state of Iran's nuclear weapons program. "The circular maneuvering of the two American fighters indicated them as carrying out spying sorties and controlling the borders," said an Iranian official.

Less than a week earlier, Iranian air force chief Brig. Karim Qavami was quoted as having ordered his forces to open fire and shoot down any unidentified aircraft violating the country's airspace.

"Given that the intrusion of enemy aircraft over Iran's airspace is possible, all fighter jets of the country have been ordered by the army chief to shoot them down in the event of sighting them," he said.

In August, five U.S. warplanes entered Iranian airspace from the southwestern Shalamcheh border and overflew Khorramshahr. Iranian military specialists believe the intrusions are designed to assess the capabilities of Iran's anti-aircraft defenses.

Army chief Gen. Mohammad Salimi also said the Iranian air force has been ordered to defend the country`s nuclear sites in the event of an attack.

"The air force has been ordered to protect the nuclear sites, using all its power," the daily Iran quoted Salimi as saying, adding the air force had temporarily suspended all its maneuvers to focus its capabilities on patrolling the skies over Iran.

Such statements have raised the stakes in a war of words amid foreign press speculation about possible Israeli and American attack on Iran`s nuclear facilities. Iranian military commanders have warned of grave consequences if any such attack takes place. -----


Hmm, are we going to pull a Israel on Iran?
 

CaptnKirk

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Hmm, are we going to pull a Israel on Iran?

Maybe we'll just do the overflights, analyze the information &
subcontract the actual final hit out to Israel.

Squeeky Clean ?
 

conjur

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Hmm....hundreds of thousands of enraged Shiites marching across the border into Iraq and the U.S. retaliating with bombs all over Iran.

Bush sure is trying to find more and more ways to piss off people, isn't he?
 

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Hmm, are we going to pull a Israel on Iran?

Maybe we'll just do the overflights, analyze the information &
subcontract the actual final hit out to Israel.

Squeeky Clean ?


Yeah and then we can hear Kerry complain about Bush "outsourcing the Iran war"... lol
 

FallenHero96

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Originally posted by: conjur
Hmm....hundreds of thousands of enraged Shiites marching across the border into Iraq and the U.S. retaliating with bombs all over Iran.

Bush sure is trying to find more and more ways to piss off people, isn't he?


No, i would say these people all found ways to piss US off.
 

judasmachine

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we can't even handle what's on our plate NOW, why are we picking other fights? seems like i've said this once before...
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: FallenHero96
Originally posted by: conjur
Hmm....hundreds of thousands of enraged Shiites marching across the border into Iraq and the U.S. retaliating with bombs all over Iran.

Bush sure is trying to find more and more ways to piss off people, isn't he?
No, i would say these people all found ways to piss US off.
"these people" What people? The many Iranians who want democracy? The many who are sick of the mullahs and ayatollahs and an over-bearing theocracy?
 

FallenHero96

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: FallenHero96
Originally posted by: conjur
Hmm....hundreds of thousands of enraged Shiites marching across the border into Iraq and the U.S. retaliating with bombs all over Iran.

Bush sure is trying to find more and more ways to piss off people, isn't he?
No, i would say these people all found ways to piss US off.
"these people" What people? The many Iranians who want democracy? The many who are sick of the mullahs and ayatollahs and an over-bearing theocracy?


No, not them. The people with the nuclear program. The "axis of evil".
 

conjur

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Ah...they've always been like that.

If it wasn't for us invading Iraq and funding Israel with billions and billions they wouldn't have the necessity to start up a nuclear program.
 

kage69

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Conjur, c'mon now, you know the concept of 'cause and effect' is lost upon the Bush fanbois.
 

FallenHero96

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So your saying Iran only has nuclear weapons to defend itself from Israel? lol... Iran is a country of Islamic radicals. Your telling me your feeling comfortable with them having nuclear weapons?
 

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Originally posted by: FallenHero96
So your saying Iran only has nuclear weapons to defend itself from Israel? lol... Iran is a country of Islamic radicals. Your telling me your feeling comfortable with them having nuclear weapons?

I'm no more uncomfortable with Iran having nuclear weapons than I am Pakistan having them
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: FallenHero96
So your saying Iran only has nuclear weapons to defend itself from Israel? lol... Iran is a country of Islamic radicals. Your telling me your feeling comfortable with them having nuclear weapons?
Correction:

Iran is a country *run* by Islamic radicals.

The average Iranian doesn't give two sh*ts about jihad. They want internet access, good jobs, and a new car. They want democracy and are embracing western ways. That threatens the power held by the mullahs and the ayatollah. So, again, a fundamentalist view twists a religion in order to maintain power.


Sound familiar?
 

FallenHero96

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No it doesnt sound familiar actually.

Your correction is noted. However, the average iranian isnt who we have the problem with. Its the guys with their finger on the button.
 

conjur

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If it doesn't sound familiar then you've not been paying attention to the news here in the States for the last year or so. Same-sex marriage ban, abortion ban, FCC run amok fining companies over bad words and sexual imagery, etc. Those don't ring any bells?


You also are ignoring the fact that labeling Iran as an "axis of evil" and doing military flyovers on spy missions are going to alienate those people with whom we don't have a problem. "Winning their hearts and minds", remember? Bush and Rumsfeld fvcked that up big time in Iraq and are now going for a 2nd fvckup with Iran.
 

FallenHero96

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The Bush administration does have a big PR problem, thats for sure. But i dont think they get it all wrong like you do. Yes, a war with Iran would alienate some people, thats how it goes. How does the very insensitive saying go..... If you wanna bake a cake, you have to break some eggs.

Personally, i would choose the security of us and our allies, over pissing off some iranians.
 

conjur

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What security of ours were we protecting when we invaded Iraq?

Iran was the one tied to Al Qaeda and had supported Hezbollah in their attack on the Khobar Towers. Iran was the one we should have invaded.

You have to ask yourself why we didn't. When you can begin to answer that question, you'll begin to realize how fvcked up this entire administration is.
 

Aimster

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U.S jets crossed into Iranian airspace for 3-4 minutes and then went back to Afghanistan/Iraq airspace.

Iranian Jets have orders to fire at any unknown objects in the sky.

Conjur is right about the Iranian people.

Iran's nuclear sites are not right on the border with Iraq/Afghanistan. Iran doesn't have a chance in hell to defend their airspace from the air. Ground they can probably take out a few planes, but that is it.

If you think Iran will sell nuclear bombs on the market, then you should be scared right now because they have tons of chemical and biological weapons.
 

FallenHero96

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Originally posted by: conjur
What security of ours were we protecting when we invaded Iraq?

Iran was the one tied to Al Qaeda and had supported Hezbollah in their attack on the Khobar Towers. Iran was the one we should have invaded.

You have to ask yourself why we didn't. When you can begin to answer that question, you'll begin to realize how fvcked up this entire administration is.


You know why we invaded Iraq.... good ol' WMD. ..... ya i know, there was no WMD right? Wrong. There was no nice big juicy stockpile waiting there for us like some believed, but they did exist. Some WMD was found, dont forget.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: FallenHero96
Originally posted by: conjur
What security of ours were we protecting when we invaded Iraq?

Iran was the one tied to Al Qaeda and had supported Hezbollah in their attack on the Khobar Towers. Iran was the one we should have invaded.

You have to ask yourself why we didn't. When you can begin to answer that question, you'll begin to realize how fvcked up this entire administration is.


You know why we invaded Iraq.... good ol' WMD. ..... ya i know, there was no WMD right? Wrong. There was no nice big juicy stockpile waiting there for us like some believed, but they did exist. Some WMD was found, dont forget.

Iran has WMD for sure. Tons and tons of stockpiles. Iran has connections to Hezbollah.
Iraq has connections to who? and possibly WMD.

The only thing Iraq had that Iran doesn't to support an invasion of Iraq over Iran is that Iran hasn't invaded or attacked anyone in 3,000 years while Iraq has.
Good enough reason for the US to get involved?
 

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Originally posted by: FallenHero96
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Hmm, are we going to pull a Israel on Iran?

Maybe we'll just do the overflights, analyze the information &
subcontract the actual final hit out to Israel.

Squeeky Clean ?


Yeah and then we can hear Kerry complain about Bush "outsourcing the Iran war"... lol

LOL
 

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Originally posted by: FallenHero96
Originally posted by: conjur
What security of ours were we protecting when we invaded Iraq?

Iran was the one tied to Al Qaeda and had supported Hezbollah in their attack on the Khobar Towers. Iran was the one we should have invaded.

You have to ask yourself why we didn't. When you can begin to answer that question, you'll begin to realize how fvcked up this entire administration is.


You know why we invaded Iraq.... good ol' WMD. ..... ya i know, there was no WMD right? Wrong. There was no nice big juicy stockpile waiting there for us like some believed, but they did exist. Some WMD was found, dont forget.

Are you the posterchild for the PIPA report?
 

FallenHero96

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Yes it was. And the US is going to get involved with North Korea also. And Iran. And Syria, and any other countries that wish to sponsor terrorism. Obviously, the higher ups felt Saddam posed the biggest threat at the time.

And Iraq definately had WMD. Saddam has used them before, and even blind as a bat Hans Blix will still tell you that some are missing.
 

FallenHero96

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: FallenHero96
Originally posted by: conjur
What security of ours were we protecting when we invaded Iraq?

Iran was the one tied to Al Qaeda and had supported Hezbollah in their attack on the Khobar Towers. Iran was the one we should have invaded.

You have to ask yourself why we didn't. When you can begin to answer that question, you'll begin to realize how fvcked up this entire administration is.


You know why we invaded Iraq.... good ol' WMD. ..... ya i know, there was no WMD right? Wrong. There was no nice big juicy stockpile waiting there for us like some believed, but they did exist. Some WMD was found, dont forget.

Are you the posterchild for the PIPA report?



lol no Darkhawk, i am the poster boy for birth control. I was so ugly when i was a baby my mom had to tie a pork chop around my neck so the dog would play with me. :)