U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar, Commission Says

[ericlp]

http://www.businessweek.com/bw...8/db2008127_817606.htm

Kellermann should know: He had a hand in crafting the nation's cybersecurity strategy in 2003. But as he tells it, government efforts led by the Homeland Security Dept. have been stymied by bureaucratic confusion and an unwillingness by agencies and corporations to share information about cyber break-ins.

Another Bush Failure...

In an ominous note for the private sector, the commission notes that "senior representatives from the intelligence community told us they had conclusive evidence covertly obtained from foreign sources that U.S. companies have lost billions in intellectual property." For more on the spread of malicious software, read Saturday's New York Times article, "Thieves Winning Online War, Maybe Even in Your Computer."

The U.S. faces a cybersecurity threat of such magnitude that the next President should move quickly to create a Center for Cybersecurity Operations and appoint a special White House advisor to oversee it.

Shouldn't Bush be trying to do something about this? Or is he just too retarded and we figure that Obama is smarter I guess? Meanwhile hackers now have a green light for another month before Bush leaves office. Dunno, but, seems Obama isn't even President yet and he has a HUGE clean up job from all the Fuck ups bush has caused.

What's next?

Jee, maybe we can't wait another month? Impeach him now?

 

[Robor]

I think Bush is one of if not the worst presidents in history but at this point he's a lame duck and dead horse.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Should it not be the responsibility of private business to secure THEMSELVES? If they are losing billions, certainly they have incentive to pay for it. But, you look to Bush and government to fix it. Of course, there is always your Democratic controlled congress who could vote to do something about it as well.. But, that wouldn't allow you to go on your Anti-Bush rant.

But yes, in 30 days Obama will magically fix this problem. Maybe he will sit down and talk with these hackers without preconditions.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Should it not be the responsibility of private business to secure THEMSELVES? If they are losing billions, certainly they have incentive to pay for it. But, you look to Bush and government to fix it. Of course, there is always your Democratic controlled congress who could vote to do something about it as well.. But, that wouldn't allow you to go on your Anti-Bush rant.

But yes, in 30 days Obama will magically fix this problem. Maybe he will sit down and talk with these hackers without preconditions.

Yup. Its not the governments job to secure the interweb for companies. There are PLENTY of private security consulting firms, including one headed and started by Mitnik, that companies can use.

+1 for this post.

 

[Genx87]

lmao like the Internet showed up on Jan 20th 2001. I think it even mosre amusing you think adding another layer to the mess will solve this issue. The govt is always slow and unprepared. Where have you been?

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: ericlp
Another Bush Failure...

Would you like to see the U.S. government take over control of the internet within our borders? Don't you think there would be a tiny little uproar over that action?

Is it Bush's fault if a bank that did not hire an armed guard gets robbed repeatedly? Or should the government mandate that every bank employ a machine gun toting armed guard?

 

[CLite]

To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

No, this is standard fare here. Welcome to P&N.

 

[nageov3t]

there's a cyberwar? :Q

 

[Arkaign]

Bush is an idiot, proven time and time again. That said, BlackAngst is 100% correct. Not only should companies and the free market be responsible for security at levels outside of government infrastructure (such as DOD, etc), but to correlate the US Executive Administration with this is absurd. I expect Obama to be a moderate to excellent President, but it would be utterly unsurprising to see this trend continue regardless of who sits in the WH.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah, 'cause a slow and bureaucratic government agency is going to be on the forefront of these technology changes, they're going to keep everyone tucked in and safe on the intertubes :roll:

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

First, Welcome to P&N...

Well, let's see this shit has been happening since 2003... Hmmmmmm, think it would have got resolved since then???? Tho, I know, you bush freaks aren't about to let your pride down you must be the last of the 8% that still support his ass.

If you would have read the story it's not just banks being hacked it's the GOV sites being hacked into. And it's NOT just hackers in the USA, Most of them are from China - See Title Global. I guess you think it's ok when other nations start stealing military sensitive records?

If you don't think your IP is being recorded now for posting these little postings, not to mention your ISP, is required ... YES REQUIRED to keep records for up to 3 years to what sites you've been on, what you looked at what email you've received and sent and files you have downloaded... YOU DON'T have any rights ... Where is the uproar???? You have no privacy when you log on! Period. I guess when these people start hacking into your computer or your neighbors computer then everything is just peachy till it happens to you! I'd hate to see what type of security your router is using... If it's WEP, your in for big trouble. The public (average joe) needs help securing his / her computer.

And, the your lord (not mine) doesn't know jack shit from shinola so stop your trolling religious crap please, Make sure you go to church and say a few prays that your computer isn't next on a hack job. I'm sure your lord will come down and save you! Yeah right!!!! Maybe you can get your buddy Bush to say few Amens for you as well, since he sure as hell hasn't been doing much else lately.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

this...

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

...and this.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

First, Welcome to P&N...

Well, let's see this shit has been happening since 2003... Hmmmmmm, think it would have got resolved since then???? Tho, I know, you bush freaks aren't about to let your pride down you must be the last of the 8% that still support his ass.

If you would have read the story it's not just banks being hacked it's the GOV sites being hacked into. And it's NOT just hackers in the USA, Most of them are from China - See Title Global. I guess you think it's ok when other nations start stealing military sensitive records?

If you don't think your IP is being recorded now for posting these little postings, not to mention your ISP, is required ... YES REQUIRED to keep records for up to 3 years to what sites you've been on, what you looked at what email you've received and sent and files you have downloaded... YOU DON'T have any rights ... Where is the uproar???? You have no privacy when you log on! Period. I guess when these people start hacking into your computer or your neighbors computer then everything is just peachy till it happens to you! I'd hate to see what type of security your router is using... If it's WEP, your in for big trouble. The public (average joe) needs help securing his / her computer.

And, the your lord (not mine) doesn't know jack shit from shinola so stop your trolling religious crap please, Make sure you go to church and say a few prays that your computer isn't next on a hack job. I'm sure your lord will come down and save you! Yeah right!!!! Maybe you can get your buddy Bush to say few Amens for you as well, since he sure as hell hasn't been doing much else lately.

wow.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

Adaware? Spybot?!?

Try Encase and FTK -- among a dozen other very expensive pieces of software. Not to mention the labor-costs for the small number of people in the world who are cleared and trained to do so on DODIIS -- or, would you rather the government forgo real investigations and security, and just go with lousy freeware run by monkeys instead?!?

You're such a fucking idiot.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

First, Welcome to P&N...

Well, let's see this shit has been happening since 2003... Hmmmmmm, think it would have got resolved since then???? Tho, I know, you bush freaks aren't about to let your pride down you must be the last of the 8% that still support his ass.

If you would have read the story it's not just banks being hacked it's the GOV sites being hacked into. And it's NOT just hackers in the USA, Most of them are from China - See Title Global. I guess you think it's ok when other nations start stealing military sensitive records?

If you don't think your IP is being recorded now for posting these little postings, not to mention your ISP, is required ... YES REQUIRED to keep records for up to 3 years to what sites you've been on, what you looked at what email you've received and sent and files you have downloaded... YOU DON'T have any rights ... Where is the uproar???? You have no privacy when you log on! Period. I guess when these people start hacking into your computer or your neighbors computer then everything is just peachy till it happens to you! I'd hate to see what type of security your router is using... If it's WEP, your in for big trouble. The public (average joe) needs help securing his / her computer.

And, the your lord (not mine) doesn't know jack shit from shinola so stop your trolling religious crap please, Make sure you go to church and say a few prays that your computer isn't next on a hack job. I'm sure your lord will come down and save you! Yeah right!!!! Maybe you can get your buddy Bush to say few Amens for you as well, since he sure as hell hasn't been doing much else lately.

2003? This shit has been going on since about 8 seconds after everything went online.

The rest of your rant. Get yourself a tin foil hat, move to the mountains and tend a herd of sheep. But make sure you do it under cover of clouds. Dont want them spying on you via satellite.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

And I thought Geeksquad was a ripoff. I'd like to get into contracting for rebuilding of laptops and workstations for 7K a pop please lol. Ill even deliver new hardware for that cost.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

Adaware? Spybot?!?

Try Encase and FTK -- among a dozen other very expensive pieces of software.

Not to mention the labor-costs for the small number of people in the world who are cleared and trained to do so on DODIIS -- or, would you rather the government forgo real investigations and security, and just go with lousy freeware run by monkeys instead?!?

You're such a fucking idiot.

Like I said wasting money.

I've installed and worked on thousands of DOD computers before so I guess I am a idiot and a monkey. :roll:

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

Adaware? Spybot?!?

Try Encase and FTK -- among a dozen other very expensive pieces of software.

Not to mention the labor-costs for the small number of people in the world who are cleared and trained to do so on DODIIS -- or, would you rather the government forgo real investigations and security, and just go with lousy freeware run by monkeys instead?!?

You're such a fucking idiot.

Like I said wasting money.

I've installed and worked on thousands of DOD computers before so I guess I am a idiot and a monkey. :roll:

You would be if you tried to conduct cyber forensic examinations and system recoveries using freeware on classified DODIIS. Not only that, you'd get fired.

Oh, wait, is that what happened at one of your 30 jobs? Did you try to install SETI in the Penatgon again?! LOL...

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

And I thought Geeksquad was a ripoff. I'd like to get into contracting for rebuilding of laptops and workstations for 7K a pop please lol. Ill even deliver new hardware for that cost.

Don't be ridiculous Genx. The costs are high because of the security policies and requirements involved in securing sensitive/classified environments. In most cases, machines -- or even enire LAN segments -- must be brought offline and a full cyber forensic examination must be conducted in order to determine the origin and vector(s) of attack. Given the nature of the systems involved, it is absolutely critical that one reach a high level of assurance that the attack/infestation/compromise is completely contained and eradicated. If you throw in any sort of packet/traffic/log analysis, those 5-7k figures are actually quite low... not to mention the intelligence/counterintelligence concerns that may arise from any incident.

Cyber security in the DoD is certainly not perfect -- what security is? -- but, there has definitely been a marked improvement over the last decade...

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CLite
To the OP......Being relatively new to P&N I read some threads and wonder to myself, are these blantant trolls? I mean lord knows I disagree with GWB on many things, but you managed to introduce so much partisan junk into a legitimate finding that should worry us all. So now instead of having an informed discussion about this fairly worrisome issue you now have created another partisan schoolyard fight thread. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's thread about you knicking yourself while shaving and finding a way to blame GWB.

/rant off

With regards to the real issue buried underneath the bile in the OP, I worry about the government getting involved considering it's inefficiencies and proneness to leaks. I think a private industry led venture with perhaps tax break incentives from the government should attempt to tackle this. I do believe it is a national security issue which is why i wouldn't mind tax breaks, assuming the think tank or whatever you want to call it met prioritized bench marks and wasn't just an afterthought created to take advantage of the tax breaks.

Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

And I thought Geeksquad was a ripoff. I'd like to get into contracting for rebuilding of laptops and workstations for 7K a pop please lol. Ill even deliver new hardware for that cost.

Don't be ridiculous Genx. The costs are high because of the security policies and requirements involved in securing sensitive/classified environments. In most cases, machines -- or even enitre LAN segments -- must be brought offline and a full cyber forensic examination must be conducted in order to determine the origin and vector(s) of attack. Given the nature of the systems involved, it is absolutely critical that one reach a high level of assurance that the attack/infestation/compromise is completely contained and eradicated. If you throw in any sort of packet/traffic/log analysis, those 5-7k figures are actually quite low...

I know, I was being facetious.

 

[Skitzer]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Oh look another blatant Bush apologist anonymous coward whining and crying like a baby, big surprise.

Have no fear, your hero's have been spending $7,000 per computer to run ad-aware and spybot that are free programs.

From the article:

Complicating the cleanup is not only the nature of the malicious software, but the sheer scale of the task: The U.S. military has around 7 million vulnerable electronic devices. U.S. military officials tell BusinessWeek that assuring themselves that they have cleansed their computers of the intruders that gained a foothold via agent.btz has grown increasingly uncertain and expensive.

Forensics examinations and the reprogramming of each computer?which continues in the Pentagon, in Central Command headquarters in Tampa, and in military installations in Afghanistan?costs around $5,000 to $7,000 per machine, sources said.

Adaware? Spybot?!?

Try Encase and FTK -- among a dozen other very expensive pieces of software.

Not to mention the labor-costs for the small number of people in the world who are cleared and trained to do so on DODIIS -- or, would you rather the government forgo real investigations and security, and just go with lousy freeware run by monkeys instead?!?

You're such a fucking idiot.

Like I said wasting money.

I've installed and worked on thousands of DOD computers before so I guess I am a idiot and a monkey. :roll:

Hey .... hold on now ...... he never said you were a monkey.
Quit giving the primates a bad name!

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I know, I was being facetious.

WOOPS! My bad!

*taps meter*

 

[Genx87]

Often my brand of sarcasm doesnt come through teh interwebs very well. I should include the tag.