U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

[BBond]

I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

 

[Jassi]

R

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Jassi
R

Link it.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: BBond
I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

Your premise is flawed, Bob. Here let me explain:

If a crazy person killed you and someone claimed a crazy person killed you, but there was no evidence to prove that a crazy person killed you, would that mean that you were still alive? Wouldn't there also be other viable explanations besides "a crazy person killed you", like suicide, accident, etc, etc, etc.

We all know, bob, like the events leading up to the election, all we need is to make the claim.....

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: BBond
I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

Your premise is flawed, Bob. Here let me explain:

If a crazy person killed you and someone claimed a crazy person killed you, but there was no evidence to prove that a crazy person killed you, would that mean that you were still alive? Wouldn't there also be other viable explanations besides "a crazy person killed you", like suicide, accident, etc, etc, etc.

We all know, bob, like the events leading up to the election, all we need is to make the claim.....

WTF?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: BBond
I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

Your premise is flawed, Bob. Here let me explain:

If a crazy person killed you and someone claimed a crazy person killed you, but there was no evidence to prove that a crazy person killed you, would that mean that you were still alive? Wouldn't there also be other viable explanations besides "a crazy person killed you", like suicide, accident, etc, etc, etc.

We all know, bob, like the events leading up to the election, all we need is to make the claim.....

WTF?

It's simple, Jpeyton. The blowhard is trying to threaten me like he did in this thread.

Originally posted by: Ozoned
When are you going to go to Iraq and join the insurgency, Bob?

I will have one of my Brothers pick you up at the airport...

This is how fascists operate. Brown shirts. Jack booted thugs. Nazis.

 

[classy]

It doesn't even matter now. Just want them to finish the job and get out. I think its common sense to realize by now there wasn't any WMDs. Time to move on, this issue is so not important anymore.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: classy
It doesn't even matter now. Just want them to finish the job and get out. I think its common sense to realize by now there wasn't any WMDs. Time to move on, this issue is so not important anymore.

People here continually make the assertion that the reason there were no WMD found in Iraq is because they must have moved them to Syria or Iran or somewhere because Bush said they had them so it must be true. They even use this excuse as a possible reason to invade Syria or Iran.

This pretty much dispels another right wing fantasy about Iraq's non-existent WMD. They didn't move them, we can't find them, they didn't have them.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: BBond
I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

Your premise is flawed, Bob. Here let me explain:

If a crazy person killed you and someone claimed a crazy person killed you, but there was no evidence to prove that a crazy person killed you, would that mean that you were still alive? Wouldn't there also be other viable explanations besides "a crazy person killed you", like suicide, accident, etc, etc, etc.

We all know, bob, like the events leading up to the election, all we need is to make the claim.....

WTF?

It's simple, Jpeyton. The blowhard is trying to threaten me like he did in this thread.

Originally posted by: Ozoned
When are you going to go to Iraq and join the insurgency, Bob?

I will have one of my Brothers pick you up at the airport...

This is how fascists operate. Brown shirts. Jack booted thugs. Nazis.

We are all aware of your little problem, Bob. Heh heh..

Here, this might help.

 

[imported_JeReMY]

oops. never mind.

 

[Jhhnn]

When it was becoming painfully obvious that the alleged wmd's weren't going to be found, the admin and their apologists concocted a variety of excuses for that absence, up to, but not including "Sasquatch took them"...

Even though US forces have the ability to look, dig, question and even torture folks to ascertain the whereabouts of these alleged weapons, they have nothing, but we're still getting the "You can't prove they're not there!" and the "Can't prove they weren't moved!" routine...

Accuse anybody of doing anything, and you'll need to prove it, except in the realm of Bush worship... then mere assertions are like the virgin birth, an article of faith...

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: BBond
I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

Your premise is flawed, Bob. Here let me explain:

If a crazy person killed you and someone claimed a crazy person killed you, but there was no evidence to prove that a crazy person killed you, would that mean that you were still alive? Wouldn't there also be other viable explanations besides "a crazy person killed you", like suicide, accident, etc, etc, etc.

We all know, bob, like the events leading up to the election, all we need is to make the claim.....

WTF?

It's simple, Jpeyton. The blowhard is trying to threaten me like he did in this thread.

Originally posted by: Ozoned
When are you going to go to Iraq and join the insurgency, Bob?

I will have one of my Brothers pick you up at the airport...

This is how fascists operate. Brown shirts. Jack booted thugs. Nazis.

We are all aware of your little problem, Bob. Heh heh..

Here, this might help.

No thanks, I have all the help I need. Heh heh...

Federal Bureau of Investigation
(973) 273-1058
Gateway
Newark, NJ 07102

I made that call we talked about. Keep making your threats, I'll keep sending them in. They're taking internet threats seriously after the recent murder in Jersey City of a family of four possibly by some psychos from an internet chat-room.

Oh, and I sent them your picture too, for easy ID, courtesy of the P&N Pics thread.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
When it was becoming painfully obvious that the alleged wmd's weren't going to be found, the admin and their apologists concocted a variety of excuses for that absence, up to, but not including "Sasquatch took them"...

Even though US forces have the ability to look, dig, question and even torture folks to ascertain the whereabouts of these alleged weapons, they have nothing, but we're still getting the "You can't prove they're not there!" and the "Can't prove they weren't moved!" routine...

Accuse anybody of doing anything, and you'll need to prove it, except in the realm of Bush worship... then mere assertions are like the virgin birth, an article of faith...

:thumbsup:

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: BBond
I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

Your premise is flawed, Bob. Here let me explain:

If a crazy person killed you and someone claimed a crazy person killed you, but there was no evidence to prove that a crazy person killed you, would that mean that you were still alive? Wouldn't there also be other viable explanations besides "a crazy person killed you", like suicide, accident, etc, etc, etc.

We all know, bob, like the events leading up to the election, all we need is to make the claim.....

WTF?

It's simple, Jpeyton. The blowhard is trying to threaten me like he did in this thread.

Originally posted by: Ozoned
When are you going to go to Iraq and join the insurgency, Bob?

I will have one of my Brothers pick you up at the airport...

This is how fascists operate. Brown shirts. Jack booted thugs. Nazis.

We are all aware of your little problem, Bob. Heh heh..

Here, this might help.

No thanks, I have all the help I need. Heh heh...

Federal Bureau of Investigation
(973) 273-1058
Gateway
Newark, NJ 07102

I made that call we talked about. Keep making your threats, I'll keep sending them in. They're taking internet threats seriously after the recent murder in Jersey City of a family of four possibly by some psychos from an internet chat-room.

Oh, and I sent them your picture too, for easy ID, courtesy of the P&N Pics thread.

Good for you, bob. Let me know how that turns out. Heh heh...

 

[BBond]

I won't be the one letting you know how it turns out. Heh heh...



[IGNORE]Ozoned

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BBond
I won't be the one letting you know how it turns out. Heh heh...



[IGNORE]Ozoned

I thought he was already on your little "IGNORE" list, bob.

CsG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
When it was becoming painfully obvious that the alleged wmd's weren't going to be found, the admin and their apologists concocted a variety of excuses for that absence, up to, but not including "Sasquatch took them"...

Even though US forces have the ability to look, dig, question and even torture folks to ascertain the whereabouts of these alleged weapons, they have nothing, but we're still getting the "You can't prove they're not there!" and the "Can't prove they weren't moved!" routine...

Accuse anybody of doing anything, and you'll need to prove it, except in the realm of Bush worship... then mere assertions are like the virgin birth, an article of faith...

I get more amazed by this phenomenom everyday especially with them asserting now that none of their side ever said 9-11 had anything to do with Iraq, they only said it a few thousand times at the Convention.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: BBond
I won't be the one letting you know how it turns out. Heh heh...



[IGNORE]Ozoned

I thought he was already on your little "IGNORE" list, bob.

CsG

Can't figure it out, genius?

[/IGNORE]

[IGNORE]CsG

 

[CaptnKirk]

I think it was obvious from the start that Iraq not only did NOT have any quantities ot the
dreaded WMD, but that we knew that it hadn't been moved into any neighboring countries.

Our intelligence and spy satellite network is too good to not know it.
Getting the Administration to actually admit the validity of the intelligence data
when it was in conflict with their inside personel agenda is another matter though.

When our satellites are roaming overhead a new 'bird' on the terrace every 5 minutes,
with a data overlap from the trailing view into the advancing view, and resolution down
to a basketball in real time, daylight and starlight, computer enhanced and irfared,
it's a shame what they have done to our dedicated inteligence forces just to save face.

"But the U.N. had the same intelligence that we had, why were they wrong too" ?
Well, lads - they relied on our intelligence, what we showed them - after we stripped out
any truthful datra that showed doubt or questioned the 'Presentables' - it was fudged.

 

[kage69]

I won't be the one letting you know how it turns out. Heh heh...

:laugh:

 

[StageLeft]

When our satellites are roaming overhead a new 'bird' on the terrace every 5 minutes,
with a data overlap from the trailing view into the advancing view, and resolution down
to a basketball in real time, daylight and starlight, conpuret enhanced and inrfared,
it's a shame what they have done to our dedicated inteligence forces just to save face.

Data is rarely the problem - it's interpreting it. Just because somebody can see the ticks on a kid's head from a satellite doesn't mean that they can scour thousands of square miles and, at all times, analyze traffic and then make a good guess as to what they're seeing. I think that the intelligence really did back up that Iraq had WMDs. The intelligence was wrong because it simply isn't as good as we'd all hope.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: BBond
I won't be the one letting you know how it turns out. Heh heh...



[IGNORE]Ozoned

I thought he was already on your little "IGNORE" list, bob.

CsG

Can't figure it out, genius?

[/IGNORE]

[IGNORE]CsG

I was already on "IGNORE" mode too, bob.

CsG

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

When our satellites are roaming overhead a new 'bird' on the terrace every 5 minutes,
with a data overlap from the trailing view into the advancing view, and resolution down
to a basketball in real time, daylight and starlight, conpuret enhanced and inrfared,
it's a shame what they have done to our dedicated inteligence forces just to save face.

Data is rarely the problem - it's interpreting it. Just because somebody can see the ticks on a kid's head from a satellite doesn't mean that they can scour thousands of square miles and, at all times, analyze traffic and then make a good guess as to what they're seeing. I think that the intelligence really did back up that Iraq had WMDs. The intelligence was wrong because it simply isn't as good as we'd all hope.

I think the intelligence was clearly massaged. And I agree that all data can't be interpreted, the volume is simply too great. But data is prioritized and I'm sure the number one priority during the mad dash to the invasion of Iraq would have been -- Iraq.

If anything moved in or out of Iraq during the run up to the invasion, IMO, MI knew it.

And they saw nothing move.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: BBond
I've seen the claims made, you've seen the claims made, next time we see them made we'll know what we knew all along -- they are false.

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.

Whether Saddam Hussein moved the WMD ? deadly chemical, biological or radiological arms ? is one of the unresolved issues that the final U.S. intelligence report on Iraq?s programs is expected to address next month.

But intelligence and congressional officials say they have not seen any information ? never ?a piece,? said one ? indicating that WMD or significant amounts of components and equipment were transferred from Iraq to neighboring Syria, Jordan or elsewhere.

Can you PLEASE create a single 'I Hate Bush' thread and then post to that when you have these little updates? Frankly, I and quite a few others here are getting sick of wading through your endless proselytizing and preaching via your endless Bush Lied/Bush is teh evil/Bush is guilty threads.

Thanks for your consideration.


Credits given here:
From this thread

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

When our satellites are roaming overhead a new 'bird' on the terrace every 5 minutes,
with a data overlap from the trailing view into the advancing view, and resolution down
to a basketball in real time, daylight and starlight, conpuret enhanced and inrfared,
it's a shame what they have done to our dedicated inteligence forces just to save face.

Data is rarely the problem - it's interpreting it. Just because somebody can see the ticks on a kid's head from a satellite doesn't mean that they can scour thousands of square miles and, at all times, analyze traffic and then make a good guess as to what they're seeing. I think that the intelligence really did back up that Iraq had WMDs. The intelligence was wrong because it simply isn't as good as we'd all hope.

Don't underestimate what our screening of data is capable of, you're too willing to sell it short and excuse
the quality of quantity of data. We can 'see' planets that orbit stars billions of miles into space. we can see and track rocks the size of small cars out beyound the orbit of Saturn.
You don't think that they can follow a lorry that was a mobile weather-balloon station as it wandered around near Baghdad and somewhere near Falujah ? Not being able to follow, or even thinking that we don't have the means to staff and decipher the information is false - it's not and has never ben presented as an issue.