U.N. panel criticizes deportation of illegals

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Infohawk

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Your showing one example of how the UN said no to an invasion as your argument?
And after the invasion didn't they give in and sign some resolution?


From your link

Your quote isn't about the UN. I was responding to your attitude that the UN just does what the US wants. That's not true historically which is probably why many Americans and particularly conservatives don't like it.

PS My positions are black and white. You just want to think they are.

That will be all. Go back to your nonsense.
 
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Orignal Earl

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Your quote isn't about the UN. I was responding to your attitude that the UN just does what the US wants. That's not true historically which is probably why many Americans and particularly conservatives don't like it.

PS My positions are black and white. You just want to think they are.

That will be all. Go back to your nonsense.

My quote is an example of how things get done..even in the UN.

PS- Your PS needs another edit ;)
 

classy

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Well now in al fairness to the UN, they deal with some of the most tragic and disturbing human rights issues all over the world. I am sure their intentions on human rights are sincere and that they are trying to secure the safety of people first and foremost.
 

freegeeks

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LOL. France was also condemned by the UN Human Rights Council. You should see the current member list of this commitee.

China
Saudi Arabia
Libya
Cuba
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all beacons of human rights.
 
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A lot of them are travelling people, not Gypsies, not Roma either and i wonder where they will deport them to since they are mainly from other EU nations and protected by free travel statues within the EU.

We have a LOT of travelling people in the UK, some Romes but most of them are British, they are basically violent anarchists who make their money through stealing and selling shit to people because they scare them into a deal.

I personally dislike these people and it has nothing to do with any "race" which most of them don't belong to anyway.

That said, mass deportation and forced repatriation IS a violation of Human Rights so the UN's critisism is not suprising in the least.
 
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LOL. France was also condemned by the UN Human Rights Council. You should see the current member list of this commitee.

China
Saudi Arabia
Libya
Cuba
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all beacons of human rights.

Say what you want on the matter but regardless of who was on that commitee the outcome would have been the same, mass deportation and forced repatriation IS a Human Rights violation, PERIOD.
 

freegeeks

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A lot of them are travelling people, not Gypsies, not Roma either and i wonder where they will deport them to since they are mainly from other EU nations and protected by free travel statues within the EU.

We have a LOT of travelling people in the UK, some Romes but most of them are British, they are basically violent anarchists who make their money through stealing and selling shit to people because they scare them into a deal.

I personally dislike these people and it has nothing to do with any "race" which most of them don't belong to anyway.

That said, mass deportation and forced repatriation IS a violation of Human Rights so the UN's critisism is not suprising in the least.

Romania is part of the EU but not part of the Schengen area so there is no free travel within the EU for Romanian citizens. They can be just as illegal in France as a Mexican jumping the US border. There is a lot of misconception about what France is doing. The people they are expelling are staying ILLEGAL in France.
 
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Romania is part of the EU but not part of the Schengen area so there is no free travel within the EU for Romanian citizens. They can be just as illegal in France as a Mexican jumping the US border. There is a lot of misconception about what France is doing. The people they are expelling are staying ILLEGAL in France.

I'm going to assume the first part was a clarification of what i wrote?

Last sentence, it is against the human rights charter that France has pledged to uphold, mass deportations or forced repatriation (actually, it doesn't say forced, it just says repatriation) is against the Human Rights.

Now you can cry, whine, stomp your feet all you like but that's the way it is and there isn't much you can do about it.

Now if it was done one and one and not entire groups of one specific people, it wouldn't have been a problem, but surely even you can see the problem with this?

Just so you know, France condemned other nations singlehandedly for doing the exact same thing no more than five years ago.
 

epidemis

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So the take-away here is that no country should ever be allowed to assert their borders and their immigration policies? I wrist at the political climate.

If not, please tell me how it's possible if you can't *deport* them.


Send a cruise missile into the Eiffel tower. Let it be the warning shot to crazed European politicians hellbent on destroying all minority groups.
If you want a nuke in return, perhaps.
 
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rudder

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Simple solution. Take the $6 billion we spend on the U.N. every year, secure the border, and be done with it.
 

rudder

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LOL. France was also condemned by the UN Human Rights Council. You should see the current member list of this commitee.

China
Saudi Arabia
Libya
Cuba
....

all beacons of human rights.


Say what you want on the matter but regardless of who was on that commitee the outcome would have been the same, mass deportation and forced repatriation IS a Human Rights violation, PERIOD.

Maybe if there were some other countries on the committee they would have condemned human rights abuses in China, Saudia Arabia, Libya, and Cuba. Instead they condemn the deportation of people who enter the U.S. illegally. Forced repatriation my ass... the Mexicans who enter the U.S. have more loyalty to the red, white, and green anyway.
 

rudder

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They do condemn those countries. And have for along time.

hmm yeh, Saudia Arabia didn't have any issues with the committee bringing up honor killings, stonings, mutilations, and death sentences for people who turned away from Islam.
 

Orignal Earl

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hmm yeh, Saudia Arabia didn't have any issues with the committee bringing up honor killings, stonings, mutilations, and death sentences for people who turned away from Islam.

I don't think they really care?
 

CanOWorms

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Looks like Fidel Castro has jumped in on France's crime. Even a dictator understands that what France is doing is wrong. Predictably, the French deny it.

France condemns Castro Roma 'holocaust' remark
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11271064

France says comments by former Cuban leader Fidel Castro about its treatment of Roma migrants are unacceptable and show his ignorance of history.

Mr Castro accused Paris of carrying out a "racial holocaust" over its expulsion of members of the Roma community.

France has come under increasing international criticism after about 1,000 Roma were deported recently.

The European Parliament has urged the government to halt the deportations - a call rejected by Paris.

"The use of 'holocaust' by Mr Castro demonstrates his ignorance of history and disdain towards its victims," said French foreign ministry spokesman Bernard Valero. "Such words are unacceptable."

In a clear reference to Cuba's treatment of dissidents, Mr Valero added: "That Fidel Castro shows an interest in human rights is truly revolutionary."

French irritation

Mr Castro, 84, made his controversial remark at an event in Havana to promote the second volume of his autobiography.

"The last thing one would expect is the news of the expulsion of French gypsies, who are victims of the cruelty of the extreme right wing in France," he said.

Migrants were, he said, "victims of another kind of racial holocaust".

Fidel Castro's words have clearly angered the French government, the BBC's David Chazan reports from Paris.

It has been irritated by international condemnation of its treatment of the Roma and comparisons with the round-ups of Jews under the Nazi occupation.

It says it is scrupulously observing French laws and European regulations.

Since Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU in 2007, many Roma have come to France.

But the government has blamed them for a rise in crime and violence and says they cannot stay in France without jobs.
The entire world seems to be in disbelief at what is happening.

Should the US enact an embargo against France in retaliation for their actions? I think it should be considered.
 
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