Cool. Like I said X-mas has gotten stale. Bring on the new holidays.
Always a good idea to send out the old and bring in the new.
Think of all the new marketing stuff that has to be made and purchased,
Cool. Like I said X-mas has gotten stale. Bring on the new holidays.
Always a good idea to send out the old and bring in the new.
Think of all the new marketing stuff that has to be made and purchased,
Personally, I don't really care about your fears of a specific religion, since you're comfortable with your own being the illegitimate driving force for our society. You cannot rage against a religion that performs exactly as yours. OH WHAT? BLASPHEMY? Blow me, asshole. Yours & islam can both burn.
Speaking of drama queens, perhaps you'd learn to read and comprehend before posting? I was responding to TGB's question (which I quoted), not indicating that the incident OP referenced was being legislated. Tyson has a right to listen to whomever they want, just like as a consumer I have a right to avoid companies that I feel are not doing the right thing for the country. My point to TGB was exactly that I don't think this stuff should be legislated, no matter what religion it is.
magomago, see my post above -- I agree with you completely that this is not the equivalent of blue laws. I was using blue laws as an illustration of getting religious beliefs enacted in legislation, which is usually a bad idea.
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lulz sorry...I wasn't fully awake when I read that. I apologize ten fold
I cannot believe how retarded this thread is. The majority of workers in a chicken plant wanted to shift their schedule around in a number of days worked neutral way, and Tyson said ok. It does nothing to affect the output of the factory, costs the business nothing, and makes their workers happier.
Tyson would have to be insane to say no to that, or just huge dicks. The best part is that Labor Day is supposed to celebrate the power of workers to change their circumstances for the better, and you guys are going nuts about workers doing just that.
Seek help guys, you're dangerously paranoid.
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I could see how you could complain about Muslims had they threatened management with violence or extremist ways and I would have backed you up in all honesty...but they used the proper democratic way to vote for what they see fit....so go bang your head against a big brick wall Socio....your racist threads are really getting old and tiresome in here....sheesh what is a Muslim supposed to do in this country? Consult with you every time he pulls a move?
Maybe some have assimilated, maybe some just say they have, it is very hard to tell because the Quran gives explicit license to Muslims to both lie and deceive with impunity.
I do know that a study being conducted called Mapping Shari'a Project has released preliminary findings that indicate 3 in 4 U.S. mosques preach anti-West extremism which would of course lend itself to deception of assimilation to the West rather than the actual assimilation.
There is also the fact Muslims in the U.S., as they are in Western Europe and other countries, are a self-segregating which creates an unintegrable population whose collectivist beliefs are fundamentally opposed to American values of democratic government and individual freedoms. This also lends itself to deception of assimilation to the West rather than the actual assimilation.
It is also not hard to see what happens if assimilation is not forced and Islam has a virtually free reign.
Here is an example;
'UK faces threat from British Muslims (insurgents) returning from Afghan'
British Muslims going to Afghanistan to train for and kill British soldiers then head back to Britain to spread their hate, training, and likely commit attacks.
I think I comprehend just fine. You talked about boycotting Tyson because they are "bending over to the religious nutcases" in a post where you're complaining about folks legislating their religion and forcing other to believe in it. If you meant something else, it's not at all obvious to me what that might have been.
Ok, so you're not following the discussion then. There are two separate discussions, one TGB was regarding legislation of religion, secular government etc., while the other was about Tyson bending over to the religious nuts. You seem to have combined them into one -- they are separate, and my post had two parts each referencing one of the two issues.
Regardless, this is the kind of thing that populations who don't want to assimilate or integrate will do, and companies that give into it are helping erode American culture. Call me a drama queen if it makes you feel good, but I find that a perfectly fine reason to avoid purchasing from that company.
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THE discussion is about Tyson catering to the interests of the majority of its employees in one single location (1300 workers IIRC), as determined by a vote of all the employees at the location. So they were not bending over to religious nuts.
This is as much about any supposed lack of assimilation or integration of immigrants as is a Chinese restaurant.
My mistake. Since you posted those ideas together, I assumed you were trying to link them.
I don't think the goal is to "feel good" so much as it is to call it like I see it. I think the concept of "assimilating" is taken way too far, American culture isn't supposed to be set in stone...and it doesn't have to be exactly the same for everyone. Cultures change and adapt to new ideas, I don't think that's the same thing as "eroding". The only way your objection makes sense is if I accept the idea that the culture of these folks is worse than anything we have right now.
That's a fair point, culture is not set in stone, and it does change and update itself. The way I see it though is that most people who come from other cultures come here because they are trying to escape some hellhole. Optimally America would absorb a small part of their culture into the mix (increasing our diversity), while they would assimilate and absorb a significant portion of existing American culture. That doesn't appear to be happening. And yes, I believe that the culture of these folks *is* worse than our culture. After all, that culture helped create the hellhole they are escaping from. Taking little bits (the good parts!) from the culture makes sense, but establishing that culture as a whole here does not, it just transplants the problem from some other country to this one.
I see what you're saying, but I guess I don't see that happening. Things like celebrating traditional holidays is the kind of "little bit" of culture transfer that is good for our country overall, or at least pretty harmless.
I think that in some ways it's easy to underestimate the degree of assimilation among recent immigrant populations. People new to this country are naturally going to take a little time to accept a new way of doing things, especially since we're far more open to multiculturalism than we used to be. But as you pointed out, generally people come here (or immigrate to any country) for a reason. I think that the Muslim immigrant population will end up pretty much like the rest of the legal immigrants in this country.
Honestly, I think a rise in the number of Muslim-Americans is a GOOD thing. Islamic extremism is a lot harder sell to young Muslims in the Middle East if the alternative is to be an Islamic stock broker or Islamic engineer in the United States or another western country.
Socio, don't you have some crosses to burn or something?
Your posts do nothing but highlight the backward ass ignorance that still exists in the US, and should make any rational person sad that society as a whole has to put up with idiots like you under our "freedom of speech" concept.
This thread is rediculous as is this entire story which is only getting around as a way to spread hate mongering and idiocy... and elsewhere in other forums is somehow being tied to Obama and his campaign. LMAO!
It's quite simple, actually and is good example of how unions and Democracy as a whole works-
1)A majority of a group of employees decided they wanted to change their choice of paid holidays.
2) They were able to generate enough votes in their union to get it done.
3) The company they worked for saw it was a majority request, so they agreed.
How exactly is that not American AND Democratic??
Your posts do nothing but highlight the backward ass ignorance that still exists in the US, and should make any rational person sad that society as a whole has to put up with idiots like you under our "freedom of speech" concept.
This thread is rediculous as is this entire story which is only getting around as a way to spread hate mongering and idiocy... and elsewhere in other forums is somehow being tied to Obama and his campaign. LMAO!
It's quite simple, actually and is good example of how unions and Democracy as a whole works-
1)A majority of a group of employees decided they wanted to change their choice of paid holidays.
2) They were able to generate enough votes in their union to get it done.
3) The company they worked for saw it was a majority request, so they agreed.
How exactly is that not American AND Democratic??
I was about to be offended by that...
Then I realized that I am a transplant and live in Austin...so I'm not really a Texan because of both/either of those reasons.
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