TX Judge Breaks Up Lesbian Home

[Texashiker]

And so far, you've given no proof that homosexuality is a choice or a lifestyle. That is your belief. What else do you believe in that people could potentially poke holes at?

If you live a life contrary to what is accepted by society, get ready to pay the price.

I would not go to Iran and open up a liquor store. To do so would be down right stupid.

But that is what the gay community would do. They would go to the bible belt, then demand equal rights?

 

[child of wonder]

You know what your wife actually might be gay. Maybe that's why you are always so miserable and want to shit on everyone else's lifestyle.

If so then she is definitely the butch and he is the bitch.

 

[BudAshes]

Essentially what is happening to people like texashiker is that we are all realizing we can just ignore them until they go away. Essentially life is slowly hitting the ignore button on all his stupid ideas and this upsets him. White conservative heterosexual males have been in charge for so long they thought it was somehow their divine right to be important and that morality should always consider them righteous. Sorry guys, the runs over. Come join the rest of us.

 

[nehalem256]

Hmm, aren't you the one who wants a judge to throw out a legal contract because it contains an obligation, willingly entered into, that you dislike?

 

[Texashiker]

Essentially what is happening to people like texashiker is that we are all realizing we can just ignore them until they go away. Essentially life is slowly hitting the ignore button on all his stupid ideas and this upsets him. White conservative heterosexual males have been in charge for so long they thought it was somehow their divine right to be important and that morality should always consider them righteous. Sorry guys, the runs over. Come join the rest of us.

My mindset may be outdated, and I admit that.

But do not expect the things that are tolerated in california, colorado and new york to be tolerated in conservative states like Texas.

You know what would be nice, is if all opinions were treated with equal respect. But if someone has a differing opinion then somehow their opinion holds less value than someone in the majority? When that happens, it is nothing more than mob rules, kinda like a democracy.

I honestly do not mind gays having equal rights and equal protection under the law, but do not force me to like it.

 

[nehalem256]

You couldn't choose to be sexually attracted to a guy, right? Then what makes you think I could choose to be sexually attracted to a woman?

Read your OP. If being gay wasn't a choice this thread would not exist.

 

[fskimospy]

My mindset may be outdated, and I admit that.

But do not expect the things that are tolerated in california, colorado and new york to be tolerated in conservative states like Texas.

You know what would be nice, is if all opinions were treated with equal respect. But if someone has a differing opinion then somehow their opinion is worth less than someone in the majority?

Not all opinions are worthy of respect.

There is no need for us to respect or tolerate bigotry. You would presumably not feel the need to accept and tolerate white supremacist opinions on race relations, right? Similarly, there is no need to respect homophobic bigotry.

 

[Texashiker]

There is no need for us to respect or tolerate bigotry.

All of us in some form or fashion harbor a dislike for certain groups.

You would presumably not feel the need to accept and tolerate white supremacist opinions on race relations, right? Similarly, there is no need to respect homophobic bigotry.

Then you would discriminate against those who have a differing opinion?

 

[BudAshes]

My mindset may be outdated, and I admit that.

But do not expect the things that are tolerated in california, colorado and new york to be tolerated in conservative states like Texas.

You know what would be nice, is if all opinions were treated with equal respect. But if someone has a differing opinion then somehow their opinion holds less value than someone in the majority? When that happens, it is nothing more than mob rules, kinda like a democracy.

I honestly do not mind gays having equal rights and equal protection under the law, but do not force me to like it.

To be honest I can't even follow what you are saying at this point. You've now changed your story several times just in your last 10 replies or so.

 

[fskimospy]

All of us in some form or fashion harbor some kind of dislike for certain groups.

No one else is asking for their irrational dislikes to be accepted and validated by others.

Then you would discriminate against those who have a differing opinion?

Absolutely, if that opinion is bigoted. This is the old "why won't you be tolerant of my intolerance?" argument. I have no problem whatsoever in refusing to tolerate bigotry.

 

[Texashiker]

To be honest I can't even follow what you are saying at this point. You've now changed your story several times just in your last 10 replies or so.

It is a matter of mutual respect, and that is something I have said in previous threads, not just this one.

The quote the opening post,

I hope they appeal and this judge's dumbass ruling gets overturned.

In other words he can not respect a judges decision.

Absolutely, if that opinion is bigoted. This is the old "why won't you be tolerant of my intolerance?" argument. I have no problem whatsoever in refusing to tolerate bigotry.

Regardless if you like or dislike what someone has to say, you should at least respect the persons right to say it. For one day you may be in the minority.

 

[Murloc]

why does such as clause even exist?
Seriously, update your divorce laws.
I will never understand common law, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Texashiker in Iran if you're not a muslim you're allowed to drink alcohol AFAIK. If we apply the same reasoning to sexuality, then you can't have gay sex if you're not gay.

 

[TheVrolok]

1, it hurts enough squeezing a turd out, much less having something rammed in there. I do not like the idea of having my butt tore open, so no thank you.

Pain with defecation is not normal, you obviously have issues (aside from your ass backwards views).

A few weeks ago my wife and I ran into a gay guy while we were grocery shopping. The guy was in a wheel chair, so we asked if he was ok. He said he had to have emergency surgery for ruptured hemorrhoids. I thought to myself "if you would stop putting stuff in there you may not have that problem."

It is very unlikely the anal sex is the cause of his hemorrhoids.

2, I wanted a family. It only makes sense to get married (to a woma)n and have children naturally. It sure beats trying to adopt and stealing children from people who have a medical problem and can not have children naturally.

There are plenty of wonderful children looking for good homes. (although I'm sure a gay couple does not provide a "good home" in your eyes)

I will let you in on a little dark secret of the gay community, something a lot of gay people do not want to talk about.

That little dark secret is a good number of gays were sexually abused as children.

As with battered women syndrome, for some reason gays are attracted to the sex that sexually abused them.

That does not go for all gays.

Why does a woman go back to a man who beats her? It is that same physiological problem that causes people to be attracted to the same sex that sexually abused them.

Got any gay friends? Especially gay men. Talk to them about it.

Source? Links? You're a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist?

Gays expect heterosexuals to respect them, but gays do not respect heterosexuals.

a little earlier ..

Lets reframe from using absolutes shall we.

I guess you broke your own rule because the statement was so absurd it was obviously made in jest?



I want to be disgusted by you, but honestly, I'm just saddened. The fact that people like you still exist, and continue to pass on such anachronistic views is depressing.

 

[fskimospy]

Regardless if you like or dislike what someone has to say, you should at least respect the persons right to say it. For one day you may be in the minority.

No one is trying to prevent you from saying these things, but you should expect to have people tell you that your opinions are horrible and bigoted.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your speech.

 

[TheVrolok]

No one is trying to prevent you from saying these things, but you should expect to have people tell you that your opinions are horrible and bigoted.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your speech.

The problem lies in the fact that bigots believe that intolerance of intolerance is wrong.

 

[ElFenix]

Hmm, aren't you the one who wants a judge to throw out a legal contract because it contains an obligation, willingly entered into, that you dislike?

court ordered divorce decrees are judgments, not contracts. and even though there are usually agreed judgments which are banged out like contracts, not all of them are. the court very well could have written the judgment entirely on its own and inserted that clause without input of the parties. so, not a contract and not necessarily willingly.

why does such as clause even exist?
Seriously, update your divorce laws.
I will never understand common law, it just doesn't make sense to me.

people don't necessarily want strange adults in their kids' house.

 

[Zxian]

All the gays need to do is make a new religion surrounding their "choice". Homosexuals could marry under the new religion. Then you'd have a fun time denying their rights as per the first amendment.

 

[surfsatwerk]

The problem lies in the fact that bigots believe that intolerance of intolerance is wrong.

You sure he didn't mistake "lesbians" for "thespians"? I srsy hate theater ppl.

 

[CitizenKain]

Pain with defecation is not normal, you obviously have issues (aside from your ass backwards views).
It is very unlikely the anal sex is the cause of his hemorrhoids.
There are plenty of wonderful children looking for good homes. (although I'm sure a gay couple does not provide a "good home" in your eyes)
Source? Links? You're a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist?
a little earlier ..
I guess you broke your own rule because the statement was so absurd it was obviously made in jest?
I want to be disgusted by you, but honestly, I'm just saddened. The fact that people like you still exist, and continue to pass on such anachronistic views is depressing.

Don't expect anything from him, he's a liar and will invent any story he wants to make point. Odds are the thing causing him to have painful shits is that the shit has to get past his head on the way out.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If you live a life contrary to what is accepted by society, get ready to pay the price.

I would not go to Iran and open up a liquor store. To do so would be down right stupid.

But that is what the gay community would do. They would go to the bible belt, then demand equal rights?

Or go to the 50's US as a black person and get uppity.

Nah, change just happens by itself, not because people fight for it. They should just fall in line and do what an repressive society tells them rather than trying to pursue happiness.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

All the gays need to do is make a new religion surrounding their "choice". Homosexuals could marry under the new religion. Then you'd have a fun time denying their rights as per the first amendment.

Tax exemptions for the gay religion!

May even make some conservatives get out of the closet.

 

[Texashiker]

No one is trying to prevent you from saying these things, but you should expect to have people tell you that your opinions are horrible and bigoted.

Lets move forward 15, maybe 20 years. Gay marriage is accepted by society, gay couples have equal rights just like everyone else.

Along comes polygamy, and it is not far behind gay rights. How do you feel about your partner taking another wife or husband? If you do not accept it then you are a bigot.

Worse yet, and there has been talk of this on various news sites, and that is sex with children. Maybe we need to lower the age of consent to 12 or 13? After all the FDA wants the morning after pill available to girls of all ages. If the government says it is ok for a 14 year old girl to get the morning after pill, then there has to be a reason why she needs it.

Whats wrong with a 30 year old man dating a 13 year old girl? If you do not approve then you are a bigot.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your speech.

Agreed.

Nah, change just happens by itself, not because people fight for it. They should just fall in line and do what an repressive society tells them rather than trying to pursue happiness.

You are right.

I am sure some 50 year old Chester the Molester would love having a 15 year old girl friend. Lets just go ahead and get those laws passed, what do you say?

 

[jhbball]

My mindset may be outdated, and I admit that.

But do not expect the things that are tolerated in california, colorado and new york to be tolerated in conservative states like Texas.

You know what would be nice, is if all opinions were treated with equal respect. But if someone has a differing opinion then somehow their opinion holds less value than someone in the majority? When that happens, it is nothing more than mob rules, kinda like a democracy.

I honestly do not mind gays having equal rights and equal protection under the law, but do not force me to like it.

Ultimately, it makes sense that your views are outdated. People are often products of their environments. If you grow up in a small town in Texas, it would make sense that you would share those beliefs, as that's all you know. But, at the same time, it also makes sense that you would ALTER your outdated views when you receive better information. In this case, we KNOW that being gay is not a choice, you're just choosing not to accept it. There's no debate. There's no controversy. Those are the facts. There's really no point to give an each views that aren't the fact based.

If you were a 75 year old man that lived on a small town farm without the internet, I'd expect your views would never change. But you're not. You seem to be a tech savy person with access to a wealth of information (that many people are giving you here). It's time for you to grow as a person, and accept the facts in front of you.

 

[fskimospy]

Lets move forward 15, maybe 20 years. Gay marriage is accepted by society, gay couples have equal rights just like everyone else.

Along comes polygamy. How do you feel about your partner taking another wife or husband? If you do not accept it then you are a bigot.

Not wanting my future wife to take another partner doesn't make me bigoted, it makes me in love with my wife. Attempting to deny her the right to take on more partners if that's what she wanted could be bigoted, however. I believe that so long as all partners enter into a relationship without coercion we should be able to pair up however we want. Bring on the polygamy.

Worse yet, and there has been talk of this on various news sites, and that is sex with children. Maybe we need to lower the age of consent to 12 or 13? After all the FDA wants the morning after pill available to girls of all ages.

Whats wrong with a 30 year old man dating a 13 year old girl? If you do not approve then you are a bigot.

Adults dating children is inherently unequal and is highly susceptible to exploitation. Not wanting to allow something based on clear negative effects is not bigoted. If there was some clear negative effect from gay marriage opposition to it would not be bigoted either. Fortunately there aren't.

 

[Texashiker]

Ultimately, it makes sense that your views are outdated. People are often products of their environments. If you grow up in a small town in Texas, it would make sense that you would share those beliefs, as that's all you know. But, at the same time, it also makes sense that you would ALTER your outdated views when you receive better information. In this case, we KNOW that being gay is not a choice, you're just choosing not to accept it. There's no debate. There's no controversy. Those are the facts. There's really no point to give an each views that aren't the fact based.

Maybe you are right, maybe I need to change my viewpoints.

Marriage equality for everyone. It should not matter if you are gay, or want 7 wives (one for everyday of the week), or even a 50 year old man who wants a 15 year old teen bride.

Who does the government think they are to tell me who I can and can not marry?

Not wanting my future wife to take another partner doesn't make me bigoted, it makes me in love with my wife.

It makes you a bigot.

I am using this is an example to get an emotional response - no offense intended.

There are people waiting for the supreme court to rule on the defense of marriage act. If gay marriage is upheld, those groups are going to push to legalize polygamy in all 50 states.

So where does it end at?