Two years after HL2 and no updated graphics for HL2 Episode One?

[Polish3d]

That's kind of disappointing, I just watched the trailer and the graphics don't appear to have been improved upon at all. I figured they definitely would given DOD-S

Screen http://storefront.steampowered.com/v2/index.php?area=game&AppId=380&

 

[potato28]

The game looks just fine. At least theres shadows in the engine.

 

[toyota]

i think the graphics are getting very dated.

 

[Ika]

they added HDR.

 

[BassBomb]

hl2 still looks better than lots of games

 

[Cheesetogo]

Source is getting a little dated, but it still looks fantastic, and more importantly, plays on practically any computer.

 

[Randum]

I think it looks better than most games, its very clean, unlike fear or COD, or even doom for that matter. I think the textures are unmatched. and not to mention the great sound, and yes HDR is pretty sick

also, i think its runs the best of the bunch of FPS that are currently out

 

[MercenaryForHire]

If they delay it and put in nicer graphics, people bitch.
If they release it when the content is done with the same graphics, people bitch.

Gameplay > Graphics - and HL2 already looks sweet.

- M4H

 

[secretanchitman]

wait a second...they delayed this? since when? i thought it was supposed to come out like a week or 2 ago!

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If they delay it and put in nicer graphics, people bitch.
If they release it when the content is done with the same graphics, people bitch.

Gameplay > Graphics - and HL2 already looks sweet.

- M4H

It's been what, 18 months since HL2 was released?
18 months to make 5 hours of gameplay...

In the time they've had you would expect them to have been able to either make it longer, or improve graphics.

 

[Ackmed]

Who said they've been working on this episode for 18 months? I dont recall them saying that anywhere.

Modders will make highres packs again, dont worry.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If they delay it and put in nicer graphics, people bitch.
If they release it when the content is done with the same graphics, people bitch.

Gameplay > Graphics - and HL2 already looks sweet.

- M4H

QFT! Wii FTW!!!

The graphics is sorta what makes the gameplay the gameplay. Blood, blood, blood!

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If they delay it and put in nicer graphics, people bitch.
If they release it when the content is done with the same graphics, people bitch.

Gameplay > Graphics - and HL2 already looks sweet.

- M4H

It's been what, 18 months since HL2 was released?
18 months to make 5 hours of gameplay...

In the time they've had you would expect them to have been able to either make it longer, or improve graphics.

Yeah. I mean, they have had previews of this damn thing for a YEAR now. I have been a huge supporter of valves because they do make awesome performing games for the graphics level, but hey, part of the attraction to a game (often a big one) are the graphics.

I would like to see improved graphics in the next HL game, which in some ways this is

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If they delay it and put in nicer graphics, people bitch.
If they release it when the content is done with the same graphics, people bitch.

Gameplay > Graphics - and HL2 already looks sweet.

- M4H

Word. So true..

And as someone else stated they have added HDR so you cannot call it by any means outdated..
And let me ask you this.. How many games do you think that can reach the overall quality of HL2?

Originally posted by: Frackal
Yeah. I mean, they have had previews of this damn thing for a YEAR now. I have been a huge supporter of valves because they do make awesome performing games for the graphics level, but hey, part of the attraction to a game (often a big one) are the graphics.

I would like to see improved graphics in the next HL game, which in some ways this is

See above..
If you cannot appreciate the overall quality of HL2 then what can I say? I'm a huge fan of FPS and I luv GFX too , but the HL1 and 2 were the only games in FPS history that made look beyond way beyond gfx in a FPS title..

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Who said they've been working on this episode for 18 months? I dont recall them saying that anywhere.

Modders will make highres packs again, dont worry.

It's been 18 months since the release of HL2 approx. so I assume they have been tweaking the Source engine for that long, so I would expect some kind of improvements beyond just the addition of HDR.

 

[Sunrise089]

IMHO even though I have a PC that can run more demanding graphics engines, I would rather run a game like HL2 that I can run at almost any resolution and crank up all the settings than something like F.E.A.R that maybe looks a bit better but requires a HUGE performance hit or settings adjustment to only gain the small amount of superior graphical quality.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Who said they've been working on this episode for 18 months? I dont recall them saying that anywhere.

Modders will make highres packs again, dont worry.

It's been 18 months since the release of HL2 approx. so I assume they have been tweaking the Source engine for that long, so I would expect some kind of improvements beyond just the addition of HDR.

no ****** but remember it took Valve well over a year to get off their ass and seriously address the stutter issue many were having.

 

[dug777]

I personally love the look of the engine (so crisp & clean), and it's scalability (any you all know what a Farcry whore i am). be interesting to see how much of a hit the HDR takes.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Not that it likely matters much in the long run, but I think Valve's employees are entitled to take a break once in a while.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: jim1976

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If they delay it and put in nicer graphics, people bitch.
If they release it when the content is done with the same graphics, people bitch.

Gameplay > Graphics - and HL2 already looks sweet.

- M4H

Word. So true..

And as someone else stated they have added HDR so you cannot call it by any means outdated..
And let me ask you this.. How many games do you think that can reach the overall quality of HL2?

Originally posted by: Frackal
Yeah. I mean, they have had previews of this damn thing for a YEAR now. I have been a huge supporter of valves because they do make awesome performing games for the graphics level, but hey, part of the attraction to a game (often a big one) are the graphics.

I would like to see improved graphics in the next HL game, which in some ways this is

See above..
If you cannot appreciate the overall quality of HL2 then what can I say? I'm a huge fan of FPS and I luv GFX too , but the HL1 and 2 were the only games in FPS history that made look beyond way beyond gfx in a FPS title..

I didn't say I "cannot appreciate the overal quality blah blah"

I'd like better graphics in an updated game, its part of the fun and what should be a newer experience.

 

[BassBomb]

stutter issue? it was lack of ram... but if u had low ram you would get it

they fixed it for low ram situations eventually...

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: BassBomb
stutter issue? it was lack of ram... but if u had low ram you would get it

they fixed it for low ram situations eventually...

lack of ram wasnt the issue for all the stuttering.

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Interesting thread, I think it's too early to judge the game before it even came out yet. It might end up with even better gameplay then hl2 and then youll be like I'm glad they put effort into the gameplay and not into the graphics (quake 4 any1?)

Plus, you get HDR which will bring the game to a whole new level. I'm satisfied with that. Plus plus this is like the only game where I never have to worry about dips in framerate, even when all settings are maxed.

i can't wait to play this on my new fw900

 

[Cabages]

HL2 was beautiful. I loved how you could max out the settings and still have it running smooth as butter. HDR will make it look even better, although I wish they could add some more improvements, I was already content with HL2.

But that still isnt why its a great game. This story has got me pretty intrigued. G man has me confused, I have NO idea what in the hell that guy is doing.

So is this an expansion pack, and you need the original to play this, or is it stand alone?

You also have to respect Valve in that they dont rush a product. Took them forever for HL2, and they are taking as long as they need for Episode 1.

BTW, I have NEVER seen better faces and animation on game characters.

 

[Zenoth]

People have a short memory.

Valve did update the engine with HDR, which was originally NOT a feature of the Source Engine. They could implement it, and not only they updated their Engine (which almost never happens from other development houses), but they made HDR "theirs", by tweaking the way it's being rendered by GPUs with SM 2.0.

The Source Engine is one of the few others around that can actually be regularly revised/updated.

Usually, when a game is released, it has an engine running it, but other than game-play related patches, the engine is left out over time, and then another version of that engine is made for the sequel, or a pseudo-sequel of that previous title (such as Crysis and Prey).

Valve, on the other hand, created an Engine that can, that has been, and that will be updated over time.

And nothing proves us that the following Episodes will not receive a better graphics-related update other than adding HDR lightning.

Oh, and, 18 months is nothing to develop a game, even if you don't have to create a new engine from scrap.

Take Battlefield 2, for example. That one was under development for two years (approximately), and look how badly it ran when it was first released (history repeats itself with Electronic Arts games anyways, even if they do not entirely develop them for some ungodly reasons). Not to mention that it could have looked much better than it did upon release. The lightning effects are basic, textures are lacking in details, and the engine is a RESOURCES STARVING SLAVE.