Two Women in Their 70s Charged With Killing Homeless for Insurance

Amused

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Searched, found nothing.

Kinda plays out like a Tales From the Crypt episode...

Women Charged With Killing Homeless for Insurance
By ROBERT JABLON, AP

LOS ANGELES (Aug. 1) - Two women in their 70s were charged Monday with having homeless men killed in hit-and-run car crashes to collect more than $2 million in life insurance.

Olga Rutterschmidt, 73, and Helen Golay, 75, were each charged with two counts of murder and two counts of conspiracy to commit murder for financial gain.

The charges make the women eligible for the death penalty. Prosecutors will wait until the case moves closer to trial before deciding whether to seek executions, Deputy District Attorney Shellie Samuels said in a statement.

The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown. Paul Vados, 73, was killed in November 1999 and Kenneth McDavid, 51, was killed in June 2005.

The women were arrested in May and initially charged with federal mail fraud. They are awaiting an October trial on those charges, but in light of the murder allegations authorities are considering dropping the fraud counts for now, said U.S. attorney spokesman Thom Mrozek. He added that those charges could be refiled later.

The women befriended the transients, paid for them to stay in apartments and obtained their signatures before taking out three dozen life insurance policies on them, authorities say.

They had them killed and then collected while falsely claiming to be relatives, according to the complaint.

Some insurers found the circumstances suspicious and refused to pay.

An investigation began last year when police looking into McDavid's death found similarities to the Vados case, authorities said. Blood was found in a car Golay reportedly had towed from near where McDavid was killed.

"I plan on handling the case and winning because there was no murder and there is no evidence of murder," Golay's attorney, Roger Jon Diamond, said Monday.

Rutterschmidt had not immediately obtained an attorney for the state charges, officials said.

The investigation was continuing.

"Investigators are still looking into the possibility that other victims may also have fallen prey to these women," said Kevin Maiberger, a Los Angeles police spokesman.

The women cannot be arraigned on the murder charges until they are transferred from federal to state custody.

 

ISAslot

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And to think, everyone thought old people where crashing cause they were too old to drive.
 

SophalotJack

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Gotta do something with the homeless.

We won't help them, so at least someone is getting some use out of them.

lol.
 

Amused

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No one thinks this sounds like a plot for Tales From the Crypt?
 
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You gotta figure at that age, what have you got to lose? I mean I plan for a diabolical take over of the world when I'm 70.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
The women befriended the transients, paid for them to stay in apartments and obtained their signatures before taking out three dozen life insurance policies on them, authorities say.

Three dozen life insurance policies, and they didn't expect to get caught?

 

Baked

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Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people, they're just evil.
 

rstrohkirch

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Originally posted by: Baked
Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people, they're just evil.


The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
Originally posted by: Baked
Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people, they're just evil.


The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown

Reading comprehension FTW.

What Baked said for those that suffer from a lack of:

Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people is because they're just evil.
 

rstrohkirch

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
Originally posted by: Baked
Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people, they're just evil.


The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown

Reading comprehension FTW.

What Baked said for those that suffer from a lack of:

Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people is because they're just evil.



Yes, because all of us without said comprehension know, that if we in fact DID take away these rights, it would some how stop them from making the above arrangements to begin with.

Point flew by apparently
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
Originally posted by: Baked
Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people, they're just evil.


The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown

Reading comprehension FTW.

What Baked said for those that suffer from a lack of:

Another reason to take the driving rights away from old people is because they're just evil.



Yes, because all of us without said comprehension know, that if we in fact DID take away these rights, it would some how stop them from making the above arrangements to begin with.

Point flew by apparently

Where did I say it made any sense? Where did he say it had to make any sense?
 

rstrohkirch

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Where did I say my reply had to lack sense and take a none literal meaning for what it was?
When did trying to translate a sentence detailed in non-sense in regards to sense and defended by non-sense, make any sense?

I would have taken one larger policy out




 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
Where did I say my reply had to lack sense and take a none literal meaning for what it was?
When did trying to translate a sentence detailed in non-sense in regards to sense and defended by non-sense, make any sense?

I would have taken one larger policy out

Wanna go get some drinks and have some sex?
 

fitzov

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The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown.

Ok, so how did they get caught? What evidence is there? It can't just be because the women took out policies since that is legal.