Two NY State Senators side with Republicans

[Hacp]

ALBANY ? Democrats appeared in jeopardy of losing their majority in the State Senate on Monday in what would be a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.

A raucous leadership fight erupted on the floor of the Senate around 3 p.m., with two Democrats, Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens joining the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.

Democrats attempted to stall the vote by asking to adjourn the session, but it appeared that Republicans had won the vote by a 32-to-30 margin.

Read More Here

I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

However, the largest cause of this revolt has to be Governor Patterson. Patterson has been a horrible governor. He was too weak to cut all the pensions. He couldn't get rid of the unions. He caved into the special interests of the unions. Maybe with the senate back in Republican hands, we can prevent further tax increases.

Btw, I think these two wise latinos made the right choice.

 

[theeedude]

It's a referendum on Obama's policies to the extent that he is spending too much money to help banks and other special interests and not enough to help states.

 

[MotF Bane]

62 Senators, wtf?

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: Hacp
I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

Well if that's what you think then you don't know NY politics. It's just a pair of douchnozzel's who have been trying to do anything they can to get a nice and cozy chairmanship. They tried to blackmail there way in earlier this year, but the Leadership said F.U.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Hacp

ALBANY ? Democrats appeared in jeopardy of losing their majority in the State Senate on Monday in what would be a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.

A raucous leadership fight erupted on the floor of the Senate around 3 p.m., with two Democrats, Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens joining the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.

Democrats attempted to stall the vote by asking to adjourn the session, but it appeared that Republicans had won the vote by a 32-to-30 margin.

Read More Here

I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

However, the largest cause of this revolt has to be Governor Patterson. Patterson has been a horrible governor. He was too weak to cut all the pensions. He couldn't get rid of the unions. He caved into the special interests of the unions. Maybe with the senate back in Republican hands, we can prevent further tax increases.

Btw, I think these two wise latinos made the right choice.

lol...petty politics in the NY state senate is a referendum on Obama's policies?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Hacp

ALBANY ? Democrats appeared in jeopardy of losing their majority in the State Senate on Monday in what would be a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.

A raucous leadership fight erupted on the floor of the Senate around 3 p.m., with two Democrats, Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens joining the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.

Democrats attempted to stall the vote by asking to adjourn the session, but it appeared that Republicans had won the vote by a 32-to-30 margin.

Read More Here

I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

However, the largest cause of this revolt has to be Governor Patterson. Patterson has been a horrible governor. He was too weak to cut all the pensions. He couldn't get rid of the unions. He caved into the special interests of the unions. Maybe with the senate back in Republican hands, we can prevent further tax increases.

Btw, I think these two wise latinos made the right choice.

lol...petty politics in the NY state senate is a referendum on Obama's policies?

"I personally think" <-- well he PERSONALLY THINKS that's the reason, so it MUST be true

(reality has a liberal bias)

 

[SilentZero]

Originally posted by: Hacp

ALBANY ? Democrats appeared in jeopardy of losing their majority in the State Senate on Monday in what would be a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.

A raucous leadership fight erupted on the floor of the Senate around 3 p.m., with two Democrats, Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens joining the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.

Democrats attempted to stall the vote by asking to adjourn the session, but it appeared that Republicans had won the vote by a 32-to-30 margin.

Read More Here

I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

However, the largest cause of this revolt has to be Governor Patterson. Patterson has been a horrible governor. He was too weak to cut all the pensions. He couldn't get rid of the unions. He caved into the special interests of the unions. Maybe with the senate back in Republican hands, we can prevent further tax increases.

Btw, I think these two wise latinos made the right choice.

Governor Patterson is a joke sure, but his goal wasn't to get rid of the unions or cut "all the pensions". As a NY'er here in Albany, and one who's wife works for the state government and is a member of 1 of the 2 unions, I would say in the end things worked out well for the people (but poorly for Patterson). It had nothing to do with caving to the unions, the unions dismissed his demands right off the bat and gave my wife her 3% annual raise (that was already in her contract over the next 3 years anyways). I am glad her union stuck up for its workers (considering she holds advanced degree's in engineering/mathematics, she earns far below her potential but does so with the hope she will receive a nice pension down the road). Also, if you lived in this part of the country, you would know that there is no "getting rid of the unions" in NY.

Aside from Patterson and his rapidly fading political career, turmoil in NY State politics here in Albany is commonplace, and I wouldn't pin the blame on Patterson for this (most democrats are staying as far away from him now as they can anyways).

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: Hacp
I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

Well if that's what you think then you don't know NY politics. It's just a pair of douchnozzel's who have been trying to do anything they can to get a nice and cozy chairmanship. They tried to blackmail there way in earlier this year, but the Leadership said F.U.

It's good to have people come and tell the truth to rebut the garbage from Hacp and his ilk.

His ignorance has long since shown him incapable of shame.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Hacp
I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies.

Oy vey, do you see Jesus on toast too?

"Both men are under investigation by the authorities. The state attorney general?s office is investigating a health care agency, Soundview HealthCare Network, that Mr. Espada ran until recently. And Mr. Monserrate, who was indicted on felony assault charges in March stemming from an attack on his companion, would automatically be thrown out of office if convicted."

Real stand-up guys these two.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: Hacp

ALBANY ? Democrats appeared in jeopardy of losing their majority in the State Senate on Monday in what would be a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.

A raucous leadership fight erupted on the floor of the Senate around 3 p.m., with two Democrats, Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens joining the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.

Democrats attempted to stall the vote by asking to adjourn the session, but it appeared that Republicans had won the vote by a 32-to-30 margin.

Read More Here

I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

However, the largest cause of this revolt has to be Governor Patterson. Patterson has been a horrible governor. He was too weak to cut all the pensions. He couldn't get rid of the unions. He caved into the special interests of the unions. Maybe with the senate back in Republican hands, we can prevent further tax increases.

Btw, I think these two wise latinos made the right choice.

Governor Patterson is a joke sure, but his goal wasn't to get rid of the unions or cut "all the pensions". As a NY'er here in Albany, and one who's wife works for the state government and is a member of 1 of the 2 unions, I would say in the end things worked out well for the people (but poorly for Patterson). It had nothing to do with caving to the unions, the unions dismissed his demands right off the bat and gave my wife her 3% annual raise (that was already in her contract over the next 3 years anyways). I am glad her union stuck up for its workers (considering she holds advanced degree's in engineering/mathematics, she earns far below her potential but does so with the hope she will receive a nice pension down the road). Also, if you lived in this part of the country, you would know that there is no "getting rid of the unions" in NY.

Aside from Patterson and his rapidly fading political career, turmoil in NY State politics here in Albany is commonplace, and I wouldn't pin the blame on Patterson for this (most democrats are staying as far away from him now as they can anyways).

3% pay raise when we're in a huge budget crisis? Arhg, that is just driving me nuts. We should be cutting everything in sight. Who in their mind gives a 3% pay raise when tax receipts are down by double digits. Only the government. Only with unions.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Hacp
I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies.

Oy vey, do you see Jesus on toast too?

"Both men are under investigation by the authorities. The state attorney general?s office is investigating a health care agency, Soundview HealthCare Network, that Mr. Espada ran until recently. And Mr. Monserrate, who was indicted on felony assault charges in March stemming from an attack on his companion, would automatically be thrown out of office if convicted."

Real stand-up guys these two.

They've publicly stated that they're still democrats.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: SilentZero
but does so with the hope she will receive a nice pension down the road). Also, if you lived in this part of the country, you would know that there is no "getting rid of the unions" in NY.

I don't know if I would trust pension funds anymore... When push comes to shove, your (your wife's, rather) pension probably isn't all that safe.

 

[her209]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ten_out_the_state.html

After the June 8 rebellion, Republicans and their allies - Espada and Sen. Hiram Monserrate (D-Queens) - seemed to have a razor-slim majority of 32 votes.

But Monserrate returned to the Democratic fold on Sunday - deadlocking the Senate at 31-31. Until the leadership question is resolved, nothing can get done. The current session is scheduled to end Monday with the fate of several major bills hanging in the balance.

:laugh:

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: Hacp

ALBANY ? Democrats appeared in jeopardy of losing their majority in the State Senate on Monday in what would be a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.

A raucous leadership fight erupted on the floor of the Senate around 3 p.m., with two Democrats, Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens joining the 30 Senate Republicans in a motion that would displace Democrats as the party in control.

Democrats attempted to stall the vote by asking to adjourn the session, but it appeared that Republicans had won the vote by a 32-to-30 margin.

Read More Here

I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies. He's been spending and spending with no accountability, no regard for future consequences.

However, the largest cause of this revolt has to be Governor Patterson. Patterson has been a horrible governor. He was too weak to cut all the pensions. He couldn't get rid of the unions. He caved into the special interests of the unions. Maybe with the senate back in Republican hands, we can prevent further tax increases.

Btw, I think these two wise latinos made the right choice.

Governor Patterson is a joke sure, but his goal wasn't to get rid of the unions or cut "all the pensions". As a NY'er here in Albany, and one who's wife works for the state government and is a member of 1 of the 2 unions, I would say in the end things worked out well for the people (but poorly for Patterson). It had nothing to do with caving to the unions, the unions dismissed his demands right off the bat and gave my wife her 3% annual raise (that was already in her contract over the next 3 years anyways). I am glad her union stuck up for its workers (considering she holds advanced degree's in engineering/mathematics, she earns far below her potential but does so with the hope she will receive a nice pension down the road). Also, if you lived in this part of the country, you would know that there is no "getting rid of the unions" in NY.

Aside from Patterson and his rapidly fading political career, turmoil in NY State politics here in Albany is commonplace, and I wouldn't pin the blame on Patterson for this (most democrats are staying as far away from him now as they can anyways).

3% pay raise when we're in a huge budget crisis? Arhg, that is just driving me nuts. We should be cutting everything in sight. Who in their mind gives a 3% pay raise when tax receipts are down by double digits. Only the government. Only with unions.

It disgusts me, too. I am very vocal about it on a local paper's website. The unions here are a fvcking catastrophy. They bitch and moan about their pay raises while the budget is already an absolute cluster and others are losing their jobs hand over fist. Only under government's protection, that protection funded by forced seizure of monies from people in NY state, can these groups exist like they do, utterly oblivious to the losses the private sector has to face, those losses made worse by increased taxes. I'm already down $400+ gross this year from NY alone because of its removal of the star rebate.

 

[Sinsear]

Monserrate returning to dem fold. Thankfully the gay marriage bill will still not pass.

 

[daniel49]

:laugh:

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Hacp
I personally think this is partly a referendum on Obama's misplaced policies.

Oy vey, do you see Jesus on toast too?

"Both men are under investigation by the authorities. The state attorney general?s office is investigating a health care agency, Soundview HealthCare Network, that Mr. Espada ran until recently. And Mr. Monserrate, who was indicted on felony assault charges in March stemming from an attack on his companion, would automatically be thrown out of office if convicted."

Real stand-up guys these two.

Can I play the race card here they're Latino

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: her209
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ten_out_the_state.html

After the June 8 rebellion, Republicans and their allies - Espada and Sen. Hiram Monserrate (D-Queens) - seemed to have a razor-slim majority of 32 votes.

But Monserrate returned to the Democratic fold on Sunday - deadlocking the Senate at 31-31. Until the leadership question is resolved, nothing can get done. The current session is scheduled to end Monday with the fate of several major bills hanging in the balance.

:laugh:

The wife beater returning to his old ways I see.