Two men order their pit bull to attack 12 yr. old girl in wheelchair

[uclaLabrat]

The difference is that pit bull has the ability to kill an adult human where a dachshund or chihuahua does not.

It's the difference between Iran and Russia. Iran may go on and on about destroying this or that, but Russia can actually do it. It doesn't matter that Iran is more aggressive.

Exactly, the margin for error is much smaller with the bigger dogs...we had a pug that was an absolutely terrible dog, but everyone fucking LOVED her because she was small and crazy....if my ridgeback behaved even half as bad as she did, he would have been dead a long time ago

 

[alkemyst]

When the military buys dogs one of the tests is avalanche rage, basically that the dog needs to attack on command, but also disengage on command. Apparently its not something that can be trained, and some dogs just can't be command controlled once in fight mode.

Not exactly, I don't know the terminology. There are at least two types of dogs and some work solo.

There are those that will disengage on command and those that just kill and nothing will stop that usually once they engage.

These dogs also operate differently depending on what collar they have on.

Some in the kennels would tear their teeth out on the fencing so our Government would give them stainless replacement teeth.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

any breed is dangerous, are you slow or something?

Oh .... y- y- y- you got me... derrrr.

Sure, any dog can do some damage if given the right situation, but only a dumbass would believe a Corgi or a Daschund is equally as dangerous as a Pitbull.

Derp.

 

[BUTCH1]

Pitbulls were bred to fight, bar none. I agree to a certain point that any dog's instability is caused by the owner, but certain breeds are more willing to "go off" when something triggers their natural instinct to fight or kill be it a human command or an unknown. You have the same problem with Chows which were also bred for fighting and guard duties in China.

I believe in the responsibility of dog owners, but I can't believe people are still fooling themselves to think that the owner can completely overcome any dog's natural instincts, especially in aggressive breeds. It's one reason I always carry a knife, and I have no problem cutting a dog's throat out, especially a pitbull.

And to be completely honest, I enjoy seeing pitbulls getting shot by policemen or whoever. They're gangster dogs for people trying to look tough. Good riddance.

First of all the dog that killed it's owner may have had a medical issue, the have not performed a necropsy on the animal to determine that yet, secondly, we've had a Pitt for 9 yrs now, she is super-protective of my wife and a great dog, they are known for loyalty to their owners. they ARE prey-aggressive and will chase small animals and sometimes other dogs, all of the neighbors dogs want to play with mine with the exception of a poodle, Pit's generally hate the smaller breeds for some reason or other. As for cutting it's throat, good luck, they are incredibly fast, more likely than not you will be in the process of trying to get it off you before you even have a chance to use as a knife on it.

 

[TheSlamma]

Golden Retrievers have been on the maiming list...they are just not news worthy.

The problem is people to raise a GR to be a fighting dog or attack dog. My dad trained attack dogs for the military, you never want an attack dog as a family pet. Dogs have enough instincts to try and protect their masters.

That said, every yahoo beats and tries to make their "Pit" the baddest ass dog on the planet.

Some little kid wanders in their yard or the dog escapes and then you have incidents.

"Pit Bull Terriers" as a whole were some of the most popular dogs around the turn of the century and you didn't have these maulings because people kept their 'baiting/fighting' dogs in kennels that were secure and their family pit bulls weren't trained to kill or fight.

Thanks for agreeing with me 100%

 

[TheSlamma]

Oh .... y- y- y- you got me... derrrr.

Sure, any dog can do some damage if given the right situation, but only a dumbass would believe a Corgi or a Daschund is equally as dangerous as a Pitbull.

Derp.

Best ownage of the thread

 

[waggy]

Oh, I know it's the breed that matters and not the size.

I'm going to spend my weekend with a very lovable pit bull/Rottweiler mix that is going to slober me to death. :awe:

Meanwhile, I won't go to my neighbour's or girlfriend's house in fear of being mauled by German Shephards or Rottweilers. :|

A buddy has a Rottweiler and a mastiff. worst thing about them is they think they are lap dogs and might suffocate you.The mastiff was the most patient and kind dog i have ever seen. he loved being around kids and was extremely gentle. He would just give them a lick every now and then.

 

[Blitzvogel]

First of all the dog that killed it's owner may have had a medical issue, the have not performed a necropsy on the animal to determine that yet, secondly, we've had a Pitt for 9 yrs now, she is super-protective of my wife and a great dog, they are known for loyalty to their owners. they ARE prey-aggressive and will chase small animals and sometimes other dogs, all of the neighbors dogs want to play with mine with the exception of a poodle, Pit's generally hate the smaller breeds for some reason or other. As for cutting it's throat, good luck, they are incredibly fast, more likely than not you will be in the process of trying to get it off you before you even have a chance to use as a knife on it.

Pits, like many dogs want to grab with their jaws and not let go. Even in military manuals it is emphasized that fighting and killing a dog often means "sacrificing" an arm (though any planned dog killing means wrapping the arm for protection). When the dog is given the arm, it's throat is well left open for counterattack which is perfect for a knife or for an even more satisfying kill grab it's trachea and choke it to death while it writhes in desperation.

 

[BUTCH1]

Golden Retrievers have been on the maiming list...they are just not news worthy.

The problem is people to raise a GR to be a fighting dog or attack dog. My dad trained attack dogs for the military, you never want an attack dog as a family pet. Dogs have enough instincts to try and protect their masters.

That said, every yahoo beats and tries to make their "Pit" the baddest ass dog on the planet.

Some little kid wanders in their yard or the dog escapes and then you have incidents.

"Pit Bull Terriers" as a whole were some of the most popular dogs around the turn of the century and you didn't have these maulings because people kept their 'baiting/fighting' dogs in kennels that were secure and their family pit bulls weren't trained to kill or fight.

Mostly correct, the Pitt's at that time that showed human aggression were put down as handlers did not want to have to deal with a dog that might turn on him, but as a lot of "backyard breeding" has been going on, (specially in the last 25yrs or so) the breed has now been mostly ruined IMO. We got our dog when my neighbor's teen had her but his dad got pissed that he wasn't taking any time training the pup so he gave her to us rather than the humane society who would have put her down, we payed for the spaying and all the shots she did not get when the kid owned her, I specifically wanted a dog to protect my wife (who is disabled) when I'm at work. As far as aggression goes ALL Pitt's are prey-aggressive dogs, mine chases squirrels relentlessly but there are trees in my yard they scamper up and I always click her lead before putting her out so they know she's coming. She reacts differently to different dogs, the one's she's familiar with around our house she wants to play with, the problem I have is when I walk her at night and people leave their dog unattended and un-leashed in their front yard who then charge at my dog which of course triggers her instinct to fight. I've had to call the cop's twice on one guy who has a chow mix that has attacked us twice, he's now been informed that if it happens again his dog will be confiscated and euthanized. Any owner of a Pitt or Lab or any other large dog should NEVER let the dog wander around off-leash, unfortunately there are enough stupid/ignorant people around that this happens and it's mind-boggling how idiotic some people can be.

 

[zerocool84]

Mostly correct, the Pitt's at that time that showed human aggression were put down as handlers did not want to have to deal with a dog that might turn on him, but as a lot of "backyard breeding" has been going on, (specially in the last 25yrs or so) the breed has now been mostly ruined IMO. We got our dog when my neighbor's teen had her but his dad got pissed that he wasn't taking any time training the pup so he gave her to us rather than the humane society who would have put her down, we payed for the spaying and all the shots she did not get when the kid owned her, I specifically wanted a dog to protect my wife (who is disabled) when I'm at work. As far as aggression goes ALL Pitt's are prey-aggressive dogs, mine chases squirrels relentlessly but there are trees in my yard they scamper up and I always click her lead before putting her out so they know she's coming. She reacts differently to different dogs, the one's she's familiar with around our house she wants to play with, the problem I have is when I walk her at night and people leave their dog unattended and un-leashed in their front yard who then charge at my dog which of course triggers her instinct to fight. I've had to call the cop's twice on one guy who has a chow mix that has attacked us twice, he's now been informed that if it happens again his dog will be confiscated and euthanized. Any owner of a Pitt or Lab or any other large dog should NEVER let the dog wander around off-leash, unfortunately there are enough stupid/ignorant people around that this happens and it's mind-boggling how idiotic some people can be.

Chows are aggressive as shit.

 

[Zodiark1593]

Dogs are ravenous beasts. The humans even more so and are known to can snap at any moment.

Fixed for truth.

Also, my own pit bull has no problems with the other dogs in the house, two are Chihuahuas (mutant sewer rats...). It seeks to only have a problem with other dogs "outside it's pack" that we have not brought in ourselves. Hell, it even let my cat take a swipe at her and simply backed off.

Basically, keep it on a leash, and hope no stupid owners let their own dogs loose, and a pit bull is as good a family dog as any.

 

[massmedia]

It seeks to only have a problem with other dogs "outside it's pack" that we have not brought in ourselves. Hell, it even let my cat take a swipe at her and simply backed off.

so basically it's gonna attack any animal that you don't own personally.

keep it on a leash, and hope no stupid owners let their own dogs loose, and a pit bull is as good a family dog as any.

ahh nice plan there: "Hope".
Sounds like you're an idiot looking to get some other animal or person killed. At least we have this thread as a record should your dog actually kill someone. You've basically said yourself that it's a bomb waiting to go off.

 

[alkemyst]

Oh .... y- y- y- you got me... derrrr.

Sure, any dog can do some damage if given the right situation, but only a dumbass would believe a Corgi or a Daschund is equally as dangerous as a Pitbull.

Derp.

Dachshunds can be very aggressive, they were bred to go after things in the ground. Again small dog bites just aren't so sensational in the news.

For a long time (maybe still now) Cocker Spaniels were the #1 biter. People did get maimed, but losing use of a finger or nerve damage in a hand is not as 'cool' as someone with facial damage and the like.

Almost ANY terrier can be aggressive in the wrong hands. A friend of ours left a newly adopted Jack Russel Terrier with their German Shepherd on afternoon only to return with the Shepherd dead with it's throat torn out.

 

[massmedia]

Dachshunds can be very aggressive, they were bred to go after things in the ground. Again small dog bites just aren't so sensational in the news.

For a long time (maybe still now) Cocker Spaniels were the #1 biter. People did get maimed, but losing use of a finger or nerve damage in a hand is not as 'cool' as someone with facial damage and the like.

Almost ANY terrier can be aggressive in the wrong hands. A friend of ours left a newly adopted Jack Russel Terrier with their German Shepherd on afternoon only to return with the Shepherd dead with it's throat torn out.

these comparisons are fucking stupid.

 

[BUTCH1]

Chows are aggressive as shit.

Yea, this one has a dumb fuck as an owner, while I was talking to the police about one of the attacks a guy who lives next door was telling me about how he saw the dog run across the street and attack a 10yr old riding a bike, nice..

 

[destrekor]

so basically it's gonna attack any animal that you don't own personally.



ahh nice plan there: "Hope".
Sounds like you're an idiot looking to get some other animal or person killed. At least we have this thread as a record should your dog actually kill someone. You've basically said yourself that it's a bomb waiting to go off.

Let's be honest here: most breeds of dog that are worth a damn (something that doesn't fit in a purse, for starters) can have leadership and trust issues regarding any lifeforms outside of its "pack".

That is the very nature of canines. Some naturally get an alpha/pack leader mentality, and while good dog handling should prevent a dog challenging the human leadership, a dog will often want to secure safety and its place within the pack.

Which is to say: the breed of dog doesn't really matter once you get into dealing with other dogs, especially when those other dogs are not under full control by a human. And since many people really aren't good at handling dogs, quite a few loose dogs will basically do whatever they please.
No dog owner can guarantee a strong breed won't have issues responding to other dogs causing problems. If a dog started attacking or showing aggression to a dog, most dogs respond in kind.



And the reality for the American Pit Bull Terrier is that, if they have a good genetic lineage, they are actually terrible guard dogs They are people dogs, and were extensively and carefully bred to not cause issue with humans. They will be loyal to owners, but they shouldn't even show any aggression toward strangers. They may show aggression toward other dogs, but the fact of the matter is, as a historical breed, they are remarkable people-lovers.

That said, it's easy to screw up all the hard work of careful breeding. If you want an APBT, seek out not only a purebred, but one with carefully noted lineage. You can have "purebreds" that, for the last 10 generations, were entirely bad-blood raised for dog fighting and defending drug houses.

 

[alkemyst]

Massmedia, almost every reply you make you insult someone/attack them. Are you like 12 or something?

 

[massmedia]

Defending dogs that destroy lives, rip people's faces off, chew children's heads in half is one thing.

Comparing such dogs to an angry dachshund is exactly what I said it was.
Why not give google images a try and see what pit bull dog bites look like?
Then you can decide for yourself how valid that comparison was.

Alternatively there are some nice statistics of human fatalities from dog bites in the Morbidity and Mortality Week Reports from the CDC.

If you don't like the CDC you can go with PubMed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19644273

As to making false statements about me, I don't have that many posts so I'm sure you could go through my post history and compile some statistics relatively easily to test your assertion.

 

[alkemyst]

Defending dogs that destroy lives, rip people's faces off, chew children's heads in half is one thing.

Comparing such dogs to an angry dachshund is exactly what I said it was.
Why not give google images a try and see what pit bull dog bites look like?
Then you can decide for yourself how valid that comparison was.

Alternatively there are some nice statistics of human fatalities from dog bites in the Morbidity and Mortality Week Reports from the CDC.

If you don't like the CDC you can go with PubMed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19644273

As to making false statements about me, I don't have that many posts so I'm sure you could go through my post history and compile some statistics relatively easily to test your assertion.

Look at almost EVERY post in this thread you made.

It's clear you are breed sensitive and it's clear you don't understand what your links are telling you. That last link doesn't say much of anything about breeds.

This is a better link: http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2013.pdf

There is no denying pit-bulls are topping the charts. They are the 'bad ass' dog of the day now. In the past it was Shepherds, Dobermans and Rottweilers. The same campaigns were being had to ban those breeds too.

Oh BTW there is 1 death and 6 maimings attributed to your Dachshund example.

I am a bit of an animal expert since almost all of my undergrad was in Zoology.

 

[TheSlamma]

Look at almost EVERY post in this thread you made.

It's clear you are breed sensitive and it's clear you don't understand what your links are telling you. That last link doesn't say much of anything about breeds.

This is a better link: http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2013.pdf

There is no denying pit-bulls are topping the charts. They are the 'bad ass' dog of the day now. In the past it was Shepherds, Dobermans and Rottweilers. The same campaigns were being had to ban those breeds too.

Oh BTW there is 1 death and 6 maimings attributed to your Dachshund example.

I am a bit of an animal expert since almost all of my undergrad was in Zoology.

Pitt bull and Rottweiler dominate that list, nothing else even comes close. Glad they are banned here in Denver, there is no need for them. I know we got owners here who are dead set on them being great dogs and while they might be a great owner, there are 99 people for every one of them that is a TERRIBLE owner and it ends up causing a problem. Sucks but the idiots ruin for you, PLENTY of other really good breeds out there though.

 

[alkemyst]

Pitt bull and Rottweiler dominate that list, nothing else even comes close. Glad they are banned here in Denver, there is no need for them. I know we got owners here who are dead set on them being great dogs and while they might be a great owner, there are 99 people for every one of them that is a TERRIBLE owner and it ends up causing a problem. Sucks but the idiots ruin for you, PLENTY of other really good breeds out there though.

If pitbulls do get banned, their numbers will be replaced by the next favored breed.

 

[thedarkwolf]

For a long time (maybe still now) Cocker Spaniels were the #1 biter. People did get maimed, but losing use of a finger or nerve damage in a hand is not as 'cool' as someone with facial damage and the like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_syndrome
is why Cocker Spaniels are #1 or close to it. I knew somebody growing up that had a cocker that had rage syndrome. That fucker bit everybody including me but nobody ever did anything about it.

 

[alkemyst]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_syndrome
is why Cocker Spaniels are #1 or close to it. I knew somebody growing up that had a cocker that had rage syndrome. That fucker bit everybody including me but nobody ever did anything about it.

I never grew up around a bad Cocker Spaniel. I worked with veterinarians and dealt with their issues.

My high school problem was a Pekingese named Caesar that would attack you randomly.

 

[Ns1]

animals of peace

ack of pit bulls in Modesto "viciously" mauled a 59-year-old man to death and left his 77-year-old mother in a medically induced coma, authorities said Wednesday.

The man and his mother, who have not been identified, were attacked by the pit bulls just after 5:46 p.m. Tuesday at their home in the 800 block of Glenn Avenue, Stanislaus County Sheriff Adam Christianson said. The pit bulls escaped from a neighboring property, he said.

"I have never seen this level of viciousness in any animal," he told The Times. "This is just shocking."

Authorities fielded numerous calls from neighbors reporting the attack on the man.

Deputies arrived to find three pit bulls "viciously mauling" the man in the backyard of his home, he said. A fourth dog was circling the man.

The man, who suffered multiple traumatic injuries, was unconscious, unresponsive and unable to defend himself against the pit bulls.

Fearing for the man's safety, deputies shot and killed two dogs. The other two dogs ran into a nearby yard, prompting deputies to set up a perimeter surrounding the dogs.

While searching the man's home, they found his mother, who had also been mauled and attacked by the dogs.

The mother and son were immediately taken to a hospital as deputies stayed behind to capture the remaining two pit bulls. At one point the dogs charged at the deputies, prompting them to shoot and kill the animals.

Authorities have not released the names of the pit bulls' owners, but say they have identified them.

 

[QueBert]

Saw a news story about a Pit in LA that was almost stabbed to death by someone. It needed 2000 stitches. The lady on the news was petting it and it was wagging it's tail and looking pretty damn happy. What a vicious killer those Pits are. Personally I'd take being attacked by a Pit over having to live day in and day out with a Bichon, Corgie, Shitsu or other small annoying/worthless dog. I know that's not how you spell Shitsu btw no need for somebody to correct me.